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Well now that the Pennsylvania primary has come and gone and Hillary got an impressive win I can already see in my head the Democrats losing in November. Whatshould have been a sure win for them after 8 terrible years of Republicans running things
is starting to look more and more dubious. And I already know what some of youare thinking and waiting to post: That Hillary has gone too negative and made this less about the democrats than it is about her and blah and blah, I wish shewould trip into a blackhole, etc.
In my opinion that's nonsense. Although Hillary did ignite the negativity between the two candidates I actually think its best the democrats get it out ofthe way now so that the public can become fatigued with the dumb soundbytes and stories. And the notion that showing a 1 second image of Osama Bin Laden is toonegative is nonsense especially considering the two ads the Republicans are getting ready to put out in NC and other states.
But enough about Hill-rod. I think the real problem is the voters themselves. These visceral, irrational, spiteful, democratic, crybaby voters. Many of theexit polls from Pennsylvania and even before that are showing a disturbing trend between the two fragmented coalitions of Hillary and Obama and that supposedlymany of the supporters of each of them will not vote for the other or even vote Republican.
And I've seen this type of nonsense on here as well. The main culprits, as shown by polls, have been low-income white catholics, African-Americans, youngvoters, middle-aged white women, and possibly hispanics. I'm not asking why these groups say they won't vote in November or will vote Republican,I'm asking why these people think their reasons make any sense at all. I already also know the common lines of argument that will be put forth as to whythey hate the other candidate and why they should drop out or they won't vote.
-It's mathematically impossible for Hillary to win. She needs to drop out and stop wasting time so Democrats can come together.
-I hate Hillary and her negative campaigns. She and Bill have 789 different scandals and I don't respect her so I won't vote for her if she gets thenomination. She's too sneaky and untrustworthy and she's using Rovian tactics.
-Barack is out of touch, he doesn't understand the common American citizen, he called me bitter, he's a bad bowler, he's an elitist from Harvardwho looks down on me.
-Barack is too extreme a liberal. He's the most liberal Senator and he knows this radical guy Ayers, and he attended a Church with a questionable pastor.He'll either put a bunch of black panthers in the white house or he might turn the U.S. into a socialist nation.
There are a hundred other idiotic arguments like these that democrats have been using against one another. We should fully expect the Republicans to use someof these peripheral issues to smear the character of the democrats since they cannot win on the issues but to use them against one another is becoming amasochistic exercise whereby democrats begin engaging in the same type of thinking and politics that they originally set out to eliminate at the start of thiselection cycle.
So what ever happened to the atmosphere of mutual respect between the supporters of each candidate? A few months ago everyone was talking about a dream ticketand how the Republicans would be destroyed and the country would have either the first African-American or first woman President to truly start leading us intothe 21st century. It seems to me that once the two candidates got a little tougher all of a sudden all the supporters wanted to get nasty toward one another aswell as the opposite candidate and soon enough we had a bunch of little democratic Sean Hannity's running around spreading and repeating nonsense to try todiscredit the other candidate while simultaneously trying to scare everyone by saying they won't vote if their guy or girl doesn't win. How stupid doesthis sound?
I'll admit I too fell into this state of mind. It was my candidate or nothing. I would consider Mc.Cain or might not vote at all because my candidate isbetter and deserved it. Then one day while watching Fox News and angrily thinking in my head how dumb and ridiculous the station and its supporters must be andwondering how anyone could take this drivel seriously I realized that I too began to sound like them. When debating family members or friends I started tobring up the distractive, illogical crap that doesn't help the candidates and more importantly not the country. The line of decency and logic which hadpreviously separated my thinking from that of the republicans had become blurred. Up until then I had been anxiously turning on the news hoping not to see abad story about my candidate while rejoicing whenever the other democrat did something dumb, not realizing that my own emotion-driven thinking was the truemechanism which was tearing the party apart and guaranteeing a Republican victory in November.
As it stands, its my opinion that as of now John Mc.Cain has a very good chance to win in November. The democrats have become fractured along race, gender,age, income level, and type of living area. To simply be optimistic and use the line of thinking that the party will automatically come together in Novemberwhile continuing to bludgeon one another is not a good idea. To consolidate the party I believe both Obama and Hillary need one another but that after both ofthem have pointed out the weaknesses of the other this has become impossible and the idea of a dream ticket has become a faded memory. Because of the unlikelychance that they will be on the same ticket that makes it even more imperative that democrats coalesce around the nominee even if it isn't their firstchoice. Rooting against a fellow democrat and bringing up stories about Bosnia and Wright and deciding to switch parties or skip the election not onlywon't help us but it won't help the country. To me it seems as if people are less concerned with getting a democrat put in office than putting the"rockstar" or the woman who's "turn" it is put in office.
All of Obama's supporters and all of Hillary's supporters agree on 2 things. They are the issues and that a republican does not need to be put inoffice for another term. So before making a dumb decision and saying dumb things, take a step back and think. Don't let your emotions get the best of you.Don't be spiteful just so you can feel better for a month or 2 before John Mc.Cain wins. Use your heads@*!# and think through your decisions. You might notlike everything about the other democratic candidate but either of them is better than John.Mc.Cain so start rooting for all the democrats as a party and tryto root for both of their strong candidates instead of just rooting for one person.
The End
In my opinion that's nonsense. Although Hillary did ignite the negativity between the two candidates I actually think its best the democrats get it out ofthe way now so that the public can become fatigued with the dumb soundbytes and stories. And the notion that showing a 1 second image of Osama Bin Laden is toonegative is nonsense especially considering the two ads the Republicans are getting ready to put out in NC and other states.
But enough about Hill-rod. I think the real problem is the voters themselves. These visceral, irrational, spiteful, democratic, crybaby voters. Many of theexit polls from Pennsylvania and even before that are showing a disturbing trend between the two fragmented coalitions of Hillary and Obama and that supposedlymany of the supporters of each of them will not vote for the other or even vote Republican.
And I've seen this type of nonsense on here as well. The main culprits, as shown by polls, have been low-income white catholics, African-Americans, youngvoters, middle-aged white women, and possibly hispanics. I'm not asking why these groups say they won't vote in November or will vote Republican,I'm asking why these people think their reasons make any sense at all. I already also know the common lines of argument that will be put forth as to whythey hate the other candidate and why they should drop out or they won't vote.
-It's mathematically impossible for Hillary to win. She needs to drop out and stop wasting time so Democrats can come together.
-I hate Hillary and her negative campaigns. She and Bill have 789 different scandals and I don't respect her so I won't vote for her if she gets thenomination. She's too sneaky and untrustworthy and she's using Rovian tactics.
-Barack is out of touch, he doesn't understand the common American citizen, he called me bitter, he's a bad bowler, he's an elitist from Harvardwho looks down on me.
-Barack is too extreme a liberal. He's the most liberal Senator and he knows this radical guy Ayers, and he attended a Church with a questionable pastor.He'll either put a bunch of black panthers in the white house or he might turn the U.S. into a socialist nation.
There are a hundred other idiotic arguments like these that democrats have been using against one another. We should fully expect the Republicans to use someof these peripheral issues to smear the character of the democrats since they cannot win on the issues but to use them against one another is becoming amasochistic exercise whereby democrats begin engaging in the same type of thinking and politics that they originally set out to eliminate at the start of thiselection cycle.
So what ever happened to the atmosphere of mutual respect between the supporters of each candidate? A few months ago everyone was talking about a dream ticketand how the Republicans would be destroyed and the country would have either the first African-American or first woman President to truly start leading us intothe 21st century. It seems to me that once the two candidates got a little tougher all of a sudden all the supporters wanted to get nasty toward one another aswell as the opposite candidate and soon enough we had a bunch of little democratic Sean Hannity's running around spreading and repeating nonsense to try todiscredit the other candidate while simultaneously trying to scare everyone by saying they won't vote if their guy or girl doesn't win. How stupid doesthis sound?
I'll admit I too fell into this state of mind. It was my candidate or nothing. I would consider Mc.Cain or might not vote at all because my candidate isbetter and deserved it. Then one day while watching Fox News and angrily thinking in my head how dumb and ridiculous the station and its supporters must be andwondering how anyone could take this drivel seriously I realized that I too began to sound like them. When debating family members or friends I started tobring up the distractive, illogical crap that doesn't help the candidates and more importantly not the country. The line of decency and logic which hadpreviously separated my thinking from that of the republicans had become blurred. Up until then I had been anxiously turning on the news hoping not to see abad story about my candidate while rejoicing whenever the other democrat did something dumb, not realizing that my own emotion-driven thinking was the truemechanism which was tearing the party apart and guaranteeing a Republican victory in November.
As it stands, its my opinion that as of now John Mc.Cain has a very good chance to win in November. The democrats have become fractured along race, gender,age, income level, and type of living area. To simply be optimistic and use the line of thinking that the party will automatically come together in Novemberwhile continuing to bludgeon one another is not a good idea. To consolidate the party I believe both Obama and Hillary need one another but that after both ofthem have pointed out the weaknesses of the other this has become impossible and the idea of a dream ticket has become a faded memory. Because of the unlikelychance that they will be on the same ticket that makes it even more imperative that democrats coalesce around the nominee even if it isn't their firstchoice. Rooting against a fellow democrat and bringing up stories about Bosnia and Wright and deciding to switch parties or skip the election not onlywon't help us but it won't help the country. To me it seems as if people are less concerned with getting a democrat put in office than putting the"rockstar" or the woman who's "turn" it is put in office.
All of Obama's supporters and all of Hillary's supporters agree on 2 things. They are the issues and that a republican does not need to be put inoffice for another term. So before making a dumb decision and saying dumb things, take a step back and think. Don't let your emotions get the best of you.Don't be spiteful just so you can feel better for a month or 2 before John Mc.Cain wins. Use your heads@*!# and think through your decisions. You might notlike everything about the other democratic candidate but either of them is better than John.Mc.Cain so start rooting for all the democrats as a party and tryto root for both of their strong candidates instead of just rooting for one person.
The End
