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QFT!Originally Posted by memphissfinest
ALL THE EARLY RELEASE SITES ARE SELLING "SUPER FAKES", "B-GRADES PASSED AS A-GRADE", WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. IMO, ANYTHING NOT AUTHORIZED BY NIKE IS FAKE SO FROM HERE ON OUT I'LL DROP THE "SUPER FAKE" TAG AND CALL THEM AS SUCH, FAKE.
I USED TO BUY EARLY ALL THE TIME. I MEAN FOR EVERY JORDAN OR HYPED RELEASE, I HAD A PAIR EARLY. I CAN PERSONALLY VOUCH THAT FROM THE FOLLOWING SITES I RECEIVED VERY QUESTIONABLE FAKE SHOES WHEN COMPARED TO RELEASE DAY PAIRS:
AIR RANDY
SLAMDUNKSPACE
VMVINC.
PROMO-SHOES
MARQUEESOLE
SNEAKERPOST (STILL IFFY ON THEM BECAUSE I'VE RECEIVED LEGIT AND QUESTIONABLE PAIRS BUT I WON'T BUY OR TAKE THE CHANCE WITH THEM AGAIN)
ALSO RECEIVED FAKE PAIRS FROM SOME NIKETALKERS WEBSITES BUT I WON'T PUT THEM ON BLAST. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THEY RECEIVE STOCK FROM THE ABOVE LISTED WEBSITES.
AS FAR AS SNEAKGEEKZ IS CONCERNED, I DON'T WATCH HIS VIDEOS ANYMORE. NO HATE, THEY JUST AREN'T VERY INFORMATIVE TO ME. I'M NOT THE ONE TO SIT AND WATCH SOMEONE BRAG ABOUT SOME SHOES. HE ISN'T GETTING SPECIAL TREATMENT THOUGH, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE FEW VIDEOS I'VE WATCHED HIS SHOES HAVE THE SAME EARLY RELEASE FAKE FLAWS AS THE ONES EVERYONE WHO ORDERS FROM THESE SITES HAS (CLEAR TOES ANYONE?)
REALLY THE ONLY PLACE TO GET SHOES FROM EARLY NOW A DAYS WITHOUT DOUBT OF AUTHENTICITY IS FROM YOUR LOCAL AUTHORIZED RETAILER SHOP IF YOU GOT THE CONNECT, FROM THE ONLINE UK SITES JUST BECAUSE THEY USUALLY HAVE AN EARLIER RELEASE DATE THAN US, OR IF YOU GOT THAT MEAN NIKE CORPORATE PLUG. EVEN STILL THIS IS USUALLY ONLY A WEEK TO A COUPLE OF WEEKS EARLY.
POINT BLANK IF YOU RECEIVED THEM MONTHS IN ADVANCE, THEY FAKE. NO WAY AROUND IT REALLY. SOME LEGIT PAIRS MAY LEAK AS THE SHOES ARE PRODUCED A COUPLE MONTHS IN ADVANCE BUT TO THE SCALE THAT WE SEE ALL THESE SITES SELLING THEM? HELL NO. FUNNY THING IS, THESE SITES ONLY EXIST BECAUSE A LOT DUDES (INCLUDING MYSELF BEFORE I WISED UP) HAVE THAT SAHARA THIRST TO COP EARLY. SOME SAY THEY COP EARLY TO AVOID LONG LINES, ETC. ON RELEASE DAY BUT THAT'S STILL NO REASON TO COP MONTHS EARLY. THE VAST MAJORITY COP EARLY FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE TO POST THEIR PICKUP IN SNEAKER SHOWCASE OR MAKE A "HUMBLE BRAG" VIDEO ON YOUTUBE FOR "E-PROPS".
PAYING MORE THAN RETAIL FOR FAKE SHOES? I'M OFF THAT.
IF DUDES LOST THE THIRST, THESE SITES WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS OR AT THE VERY LEAST WOULD SELL THEM FOR BELOW RETAIL AS THAT WOULD BE THEIR ONLY OPTION TO MOVE THE MERCHANDISE.
O TO THE DUDE THAT SAID FAKE FOAMS DON'T EXIST. THEY DO. THE EARLY RELEASE EGGPLANT FOAMS TO THE RELEASE DAY PAIRS.
I'M COOL ON EARLY RELEASES FROM NOW ON. YOU GUYS HAVE FUN PAYING RANDY'S LAMBO NOTE OR FOR JAY'S WEDDING.
O, AND AIR RANDY HAS SAMPLE/PROMO "45" CONCORDS FOR ALL THOSE INTERESTED.
most def sums it all up!
Originally Posted by ninjahood
aha...i see da problem ya got with air-randy....son is poking holes at da mystique of air jordans....he's doing da equilvant of tearing down da wizard of OZ and showing ya how da sausages is made.
-Its to the point Air Randy has the shoe for sale before Nike/JB starts to actually promote them.
SON...Originally Posted by Mr Marcus
whats a boreekgua
You're doing a whole lot of talking and saying a whole lot of nothing. We actually have countless NTers (including myself) whom have previously bought from these sites and have firsthand knowledge of the goods that these sites have sent us. I myself have replaced all these early release pairs I've bought from these sites and I can clearly see the difference in quality between the fakes and the real pairs I have since bought. Even the boxes are different just like that youtube video evidenced...Originally Posted by NikeDealer
As I mentioned before in another thread, its pretty irresponsible to lump ALL the sites you get your kicks early from IN together without knowing for sure.
Am I co-signing? No.
But some of the comments in this thread are made purely on assumption and not fact.
Has Air Randy done some shady stuff? Of course... but thats like saying one bad cop means they are all bad. (Well Most) But you get my point.
I also think its impossible to blame SG for anyone buying a fake sneaker or one assumed to be fake. He didnt hold guns to anyone's head and every purchase a person makes from the US or Asia is at the consumers risk.
How many folks have seen complaints on REGULAR kicks from a Nike Factory made shoe? I wont go on a long explanation like I did in the other thread, because I dont have pics to break up the words for the ADD folks lol...
But people take responsibility for your purchases... dont blame a dude who's making his own video's not forcing anyone to buy the shoe... thats like blaming that lil kid Stickie for buying kicks that dont look like the one's he does reviews for.
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
You're doing a whole lot of talking and saying a whole lot of nothing. We actually have countless NTers (including myself) whom have previously bought from these sites and have firsthand knowledge of the goods that these sites have sent us. I myself have replaced all these early release pairs I've bought from these sites and I can clearly see the difference in quality between the fakes and the real pairs I have since bought. Even the boxes are different just like that youtube video evidenced...Originally Posted by NikeDealer
As I mentioned before in another thread, its pretty irresponsible to lump ALL the sites you get your kicks early from IN together without knowing for sure.
Am I co-signing? No.
But some of the comments in this thread are made purely on assumption and not fact.
Has Air Randy done some shady stuff? Of course... but thats like saying one bad cop means they are all bad. (Well Most) But you get my point.
I also think its impossible to blame SG for anyone buying a fake sneaker or one assumed to be fake. He didnt hold guns to anyone's head and every purchase a person makes from the US or Asia is at the consumers risk.
How many folks have seen complaints on REGULAR kicks from a Nike Factory made shoe? I wont go on a long explanation like I did in the other thread, because I dont have pics to break up the words for the ADD folks lol...
But people take responsibility for your purchases... dont blame a dude who's making his own video's not forcing anyone to buy the shoe... thats like blaming that lil kid Stickie for buying kicks that dont look like the one's he does reviews for.
Again, there are countless NTers who have been sent fakes from all the sites I have listed. If you're not ready to prove your argument (as I have mine) then you can keep it moving, you're just another one of these shady dudes that come in and defend these sites with your "connections" that you can't provide any info on. You sound like you're affiliated with one of these sites yourself so that speaks for your credibility. Until you can add some substance to your argument then you sir are the one making the assumptions here.
One bad apple does spoil the bunch, if they're not all legit then we don't really know what's what? We're supposed to play russian roulette and just sit around and pray and speculate that the early release garbage website we just ordered from sends us a "good" pair. That's ridiculous...
Lastly, I know for SURE they all deal with the same "HQ fake, greymarket bootleg unauthorized BS" so kick rocks homie, I don't want to hear your rationalizations unless you bring us some palpable evidence. Otherwise you're making yourself look like some sort of damage control specialist, damage is done already. We don't need this crap floating around the market, it's ran its course.
I know you are looking out for him but you're just adding fuel to a flame.Originally Posted by Ayipapi
To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
Guys, plenty of companies try to capitalize on every market for their own products by producing lesser quality items to appease everyone who would be buying early, later, fakes etc. Some people are defending/bashing Nike and other sellers like these people are holy and exempt from the games of capitalism. It's all about the money and nobody cares about consumers on a personal level. Buy more sneakers. /Rant
Originally Posted by johnjkim15
I know you are looking out for him but you're just adding fuel to a flame.Originally Posted by Ayipapi
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
I think NikeDealer is being nice and mature. I don't know what's his stand on this issue, but i think he doesn't want to support either side and want the people to calm down a bit.
and as for SneakerHeathen, he has just seen too many people siding with AR or the other early release sites and all he wants to do is to help people not make the same mistakes he has made in the past. So let's not attack/insult others and be nice to each other.
edit: and I still watch these youtube videos for fun while working out or sitting on the toilet, but the most recent sneakgeeks video is just. i can't believe he just asked a site to sponsor his project of redoing his sneaker room in his video
Originally Posted by NikeDealer
Originally Posted by johnjkim15
I know you are looking out for him but you're just adding fuel to a flame.Originally Posted by Ayipapi
To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
I think NikeDealer is being nice and mature. I don't know what's his stand on this issue, but i think he doesn't want to support either side and want the people to calm down a bit.
and as for SneakerHeathen, he has just seen too many people siding with AR or the other early release sites and all he wants to do is to help people not make the same mistakes he has made in the past. So let's not attack/insult others and be nice to each other.
edit: and I still watch these youtube videos for fun while working out or sitting on the toilet, but the most recent sneakgeeks video is just. i can't believe he just asked a site to sponsor his project of redoing his sneaker room in his video
Dudes like Heathen come at me thinking they know all there is to know about sneakers their construction the fake nation where kicks are produced and how the process of shoes being replicated happens.
Why NOW would he bring up the fact that THAT shoe was a shoe that smelled like cheap glue and NO others he purchased from the same spot? Mr. Heathen.. I've been doin this for a LONG time. I have time in this. So when you say alot without saying anything.. you make me chuckle my man.
When you learn more about the way stuff happens on both the Nike side AND the Variant side of things...let me know.. then we can have a discussion sir.
Til then...good luck on your future purchases...but I say dont lump them all together...
Originally Posted by Ayipapi
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
You're doing a whole lot of talking and saying a whole lot of nothing. We actually have countless NTers (including myself) whom have previously bought from these sites and have firsthand knowledge of the goods that these sites have sent us. I myself have replaced all these early release pairs I've bought from these sites and I can clearly see the difference in quality between the fakes and the real pairs I have since bought. Even the boxes are different just like that youtube video evidenced...Originally Posted by NikeDealer
As I mentioned before in another thread, its pretty irresponsible to lump ALL the sites you get your kicks early from IN together without knowing for sure.
Am I co-signing? No.
But some of the comments in this thread are made purely on assumption and not fact.
Has Air Randy done some shady stuff? Of course... but thats like saying one bad cop means they are all bad. (Well Most) But you get my point.
I also think its impossible to blame SG for anyone buying a fake sneaker or one assumed to be fake. He didnt hold guns to anyone's head and every purchase a person makes from the US or Asia is at the consumers risk.
How many folks have seen complaints on REGULAR kicks from a Nike Factory made shoe? I wont go on a long explanation like I did in the other thread, because I dont have pics to break up the words for the ADD folks lol...
But people take responsibility for your purchases... dont blame a dude who's making his own video's not forcing anyone to buy the shoe... thats like blaming that lil kid Stickie for buying kicks that dont look like the one's he does reviews for.
Again, there are countless NTers who have been sent fakes from all the sites I have listed. If you're not ready to prove your argument (as I have mine) then you can keep it moving, you're just another one of these shady dudes that come in and defend these sites with your "connections" that you can't provide any info on. You sound like you're affiliated with one of these sites yourself so that speaks for your credibility. Until you can add some substance to your argument then you sir are the one making the assumptions here.
One bad apple does spoil the bunch, if they're not all legit then we don't really know what's what? We're supposed to play russian roulette and just sit around and pray and speculate that the early release garbage website we just ordered from sends us a "good" pair. That's ridiculous...
Lastly, I know for SURE they all deal with the same "HQ fake, greymarket bootleg unauthorized BS" so kick rocks homie, I don't want to hear your rationalizations unless you bring us some palpable evidence. Otherwise you're making yourself look like some sort of damage control specialist, damage is done already. We don't need this crap floating around the market, it's ran its course.
Dude you sound SALTY as hell...Rock is just giving his OPINION...his comment doesn't really lean one way or the other....
BUT I'll tell you what DOES lean....that YOU and the rest of your generation (SG included) are sooooooo thirsty to have kicks early or be a YouTube sensation or catch little wood cause your in the mall with early kicks..that your ACTUALLY getting what you want...Now that comment may not make sense but consider this...YOU think some kid or Sneakgeekz for that matter really CARES about authenticity???? Of course not...they only care about the attention they get it...
To truly put it in perspective...tell me another industry where it's okay to "purchase" ABOVE retail a product but not from the manufacture or name sake???? Who buys a $400 Polo sweater for $600 from some dudes website and doesn't question how it got there in the first place???? I'll tell you who...the kid who wants to floss to all his friends how he got what they CAN'T get....
All you kids crying about fakes need to stop it...your all sheep...chasing the hype and next hype...You people can't appreciate kicks cause its always about having the next release before everyone else...true industry heads that truly get things EARLY youll never see nor know who they are...they have a love for kicks and that's it....before the internets blew up Chi NO ONE knew how connected or serious dude really is...
To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
Originally Posted by Ayipapi
^Thanks for the mindless rumble you just put out...very informative
First..never on anyone's nuts...Rock's been around for a long time...I've been around for a long time...ALOT of times he and I agree...ALOT of times we disagree...the point to my response was that we can agree to disagree with out trying to insult each other...you response to Rock was personal to the point like you know homie...you don't know him...who are you to try and push him into a corner to try and defend himself....why cause you FEEL like you got ripped off EVERYONE has to choose between Team Jacob and Team Edward..your wack for the that...(I know I'm wack for knowing who team Jacob is...lol)
Again..I understand your point...your salty...it hurts...I get it...is that Rocks fault??? Is that my fault???
The point to my post is that don't feel salty cause you got what you wanted..Again the Internet got dudes twisted...in my time if some dude had joints for sale...early ....forget fake..they was stolen...period...now that could be the case here...who knows...but I dont give a damn what anyone says...there is a Footlocker within 5 to 10 miles radius of just about every human being on the planet (literally)...with the except of Quickstrikes (Yeezy's etcs) if you do some homework...ANYTHING is obtainable...I NEVER have...NEVER will buy from early release spots...
To put it in prospective..your gonna pay $300 for a sneaker that retails at $175...which footlocker only pays Nikes $50 to $60 to purchase and cost $25 to $30 to produce...so your literally paying 100% markup to get a sneaker 3 weeks early...rock them until everyone else has them..then put them back in the box..cause EVERYONE else has them....
C'mon homie...stop it.
Again if people know these things, come out and let it be known. Or else you're just contributing to the problem. Secondly before I knew that VMV and all these overseas websites sold fakes I tried selling some stuff that I knew wouldn't fit me (had a late growth spurt coupled with a foot injury that has caused size change thus making it unable for me to fit some of my stuff) and everything (I mean 200 pairs plus) went through but about 15-20 pairs were sent back.Originally Posted by Ayipapi
^its cool...you didn't offend me..lol....
One last point then I think well have to move on...what you dont realize is its people like YOU that created the Air Randies and the resellers of the world...the sad thing is just think of all the money you could have saved just making legit connects....
I dont know what the story is with you and Rock..nor do I care...I just think its point less to cry over spilled milk...
Oh and btw way since your such a fan of FC..make sure you check your pairs real close...I know some wolves that been hustlin hard in there for years...lol
To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
...or not buy it now that we all know better, it seems like common knowledge at this point.Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
We shouldn't care about that? So we're all supposed to turn a blind eye so that a few greedy individuals (not to mention morally bankrupt) can eat? Is that right? As long as we don't knock the hustle right? Shut up and just buy the garbage they're selling right?
Originally Posted by ThunderChunk69
...or not buy it now that we all know better, it seems like common knowledge at this point.Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
We shouldn't care about that? So we're all supposed to turn a blind eye so that a few greedy individuals (not to mention morally bankrupt) can eat? Is that right? As long as we don't knock the hustle right? Shut up and just buy the garbage they're selling right?
I just see dudes are out for blood now, trying to get him arrested or in trouble.