Lol the race stuff is a topic for another thread, but dudes are flexing if the Finn thing wasnt some Mad Max bait and switch. We will see what Finn develops into but dude literally did nothing redeeming in this film.
I still dont understand how it was a bait and switch. Because no non force sensitive character has wielded a lightsaber in previews? Well we dont even know if Finn is force sensitive or not yet.
People made assumptions and their assumptions were wrong. That dont mean ****.
From what I understand about those complaints it was marketing that fooled some ppl. They portrayed the black actor as a Jedi and as the main character in a lot of the promo and commercials. The rest was fighting in the air and nostalgia of Han and Chewy.
Have we ever seen a non force sensitive character use light sabers? I'm legit drawing a blank here.
The Mad Max: Fury Road example is a good comparison. That's a clear as hell bait & switch. To go back to the race thing, had Max been black you'd see an even bigger uproar. Black guy gets kidnapped, tortured, is about to be brainwashed or w/e, then gets used for blood as he's mounted on the hood of a savage's car?
Regardless that's a bait and switch. Max aint really get in to being the protagonist until the plot involving a whole other group of characters is established. As far as the plot of TFA, the stuff with Finn is very similar. He definitely is more of a main character as I've said I feel he's the guy the auience relates to and a lot of this is from his pov but like Mad Max, plot wise Finn don't matter. This was all about the Solo family, the rise of the First Order, and the mystery of Rey.
As far as the slave parallels, yes I can see that. But slaves are a part of that universe.
Nobody was up in arms about Fett's clones being slaves, or all the other white slaves on other planets in the galaxy.
Nope. Just when we see ONE black character.
The whole looking for racism in everything rap is tired AF.
I'll be frank to start off, nobody gives a **** about white ppl being depicted as slaves in movies like that. That's just a fact.
When black ppl complain about similarities to slavery in media and portrayals that harken back to black ppl simple minded ******* who are oafs and goofballs you're gonna get an equal reaction and real outrage. Racism is still a sensitive topic and it isn't treated with kiddie gloves. That **** will be dragged out on front street in broad daylight.
It's not that slavery exists in the SW universe, it's that a sambo slave narrative like the runaway slave was applied to a black character.
So it's obvious as day why black ppl in the real world, would feel some type of way about ONE black character being portrayed in this manner in the movie. It's all about how you do it. I mean Lando was basically a hustler and schemer, professionally he was a smuggler and criminal living outside of the law just like Han and he didn't get a negative reaction. Son wasn't shown to be ******* up for 2 movies. He got caught in a no win bind with Vader and then turned around and did the right thing, saved his friend, and became a damn General in the rebellion.
As far as Fett in the PT, I remember he was mixed race. That's about it. Son then agreed to being cloned as long as he could keep a young one he could raise.
They would give away Rey cuz Snoke could be comin after her next. Not cuz Ben turned to the Dark Side. Or cuz the Knights of Ren, or any other Bounty Hunter/Assassin that wants to harm or kill their offspring.
This isn't difficult to grasp.
Well honestly that's just the same reason why Luke and Rey's mom would hide her away.
Difference being that Leia and the resistance could protect her own daughter, especially after just losing a son to Snoke.
I don't see how parents can hear about their son turning to the dark side, slaughtering children, and then say hey lets get rid of our daughter cuz she may be a target. If anything they'd hold on even more.
I just can't get over how neither Han or Leia get over that.
I mean you went from they don't know she's still alive to they give her away.
Huh?
They give her to someone to look after her.
THAT family comes under fire. Could be First Order, or planet issues, anything. They are the ones Rey was screaming for, she doesn't know who Han/Leia are.
Han and Leia find out that family is dead, missing, whatever. They assume their daughter is dead with them.
They don't know she's on Jakku the last 20+ years.
That's not too difficult. And Rian Johnson can obviously develop it much better than I have.
In fact, I'd name the woman in charge of Rey, Winter.
So wait Leia and Han think Ben betrayed Luke, killed Academy students, including their daughter (his own sister instead of just taking her).
Then somebody gives Rey to a family on Jakku? or they move there? For 20 years?
Who the **** just up and decides to take Leia's daughter instead of returning the girl to her parents?
Like I said that goes back to things being convoluted and robs 2 characters of an emotional reunion they'll never have.
Plus I also have to wonder why Ben doesn't say anything when he meets her again or did he think she died too?
not sure why people are mad at how finn was portrayed. he was gonna be the damsel in distress all along.
Cuz nobody knew that beforehand.
I know I didn't
