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[gatorbeltsnpattiemelts]

Starting a 30 day ab challenge monday.... man I need more definition on my abs... if not a 6 pack can I at least get the outline of one ?

 

[af1 1982]

Starting a 30 day ab challenge monday.... man I need more definition on my abs... if not a 6 pack can I at least get the outline of one ?

Cable crunches really helped me. Also, doing oblique twists with the barbell on my shoulder reallly really defined the obliques and muscles around the ribs

 

[damedash06]

Whey powders are well and good, but you should be able to get above maintenance and take in enough protein without it. Get good and comfortable at cooking meat. Cook a large dinner and have leftovers for lunch. Honestly, bulking is easy as ****. Takes no self control, just eating until your heart's content.

man i wish this was as easy as you say it is. If I don't really really think that I NEED to eat, I will go thru a whole day and only eat dinner.... I wake up, get ready for work, grab a couple bottles of water, go to work from 8-5 (taking no lunch break), small snack after work, gym, then dinner.

When I do think about it, I still don't think I eat enough to actually gain seeing as though im 3 months in and even though I look and feel better than I did 3 months ago, I cant gain for ****.... and its 100% because I dont have the appetite to eat as much as I need to. some days I can eat a lot, but then the next day, Ill eat next to nothing, I have a weird appetite.

 

[Mark Antony]

Them sweats look like some suspect juicy couture joints. Getting in great shape but you gotta chill b. I can see the frohawk coming.

 

[Bert.]

Starting a 30 day ab challenge monday.... man I need more definition on my abs... if not a 6 pack can I at least get the outline of one ?

if you want a 6 pack then you need to diet

no other way around it... PERIOD

 

[based mod]

Them sweats look like some suspect juicy couture joints. Getting in great shape but you gotta chill b. I can see the frohawk coming.

i'm saying. lucky trying to get featured in the yoga pants thread.

 

[pdino]

man i wish this was as easy as you say it is. If I don't really really think that I NEED to eat, I will go thru a whole day and only eat dinner.... I wake up, get ready for work, grab a couple bottles of water, go to work from 8-5 (taking no lunch break), small snack after work, gym, then dinner.

When I do think about it, I still don't think I eat enough to actually gain seeing as though im 3 months in and even though I look and feel better than I did 3 months ago, I cant gain for ****.... and its 100% because I dont have the appetite to eat as much as I need to. some days I can eat a lot, but then the next day, Ill eat next to nothing, I have a weird appetite.

You need to eat breakfast. Even if you have no appetite you can still eat cereal, or oatmeal is gold for gaining weight. Take a protein shake with you to work, if your too lazy to make one, buy the 30 packs from costco.

Once you start eating in the morning your body gets programmed, lets your body know your officially up. If you eat oatmeal or cereal in the morning, bring a shake with you with your water and eat like you normally do, you WILL gain weight.

Weight gain and loss should be slow, 2 pounds per week max is what we target at the hospital for malnourished or obese (pts who need surgery and need to lose weight to get it)

 

[maicolkickhead]

man those sweats are not just really tight but they also look feminine
get your 15 bucks back man

 

[JCMojica24]

First time taking creatine tonight and I just went with the recommended teaspoon instead of loading....excited to see how this goes!

 

[aclaire420]

Thanks timbo. =)

I take a body pump class they have at my gym because I lack the motivation to get through a full body workout on my own hahaha. & It has a lot of squats so I like it =). I do a lot of yoga. I love yoga. I hate cardio hahaha but I do ride my bicycle around 6 miles a few nights a week and do the stair master if I am wasting time at the gym ever. & try to hike at least once a week at mt.charleston to stay used to hiking in the altitude. You are spot on with all that

 

[shannonscrooks]

Editor's note: To see Offit's interview with Dr. Sanjay Gupta, check out "Sanjay Gupta, M.D." Saturday at 4:30 p.m. and Sunday at 7:30 a.m.

(CNN) -- Dr. Paul Offit doesn't take any vitamins.

In fact, while you might think that vitamins are great in any quantity, Offit urges you to take a step back and think before swallowing the equivalent of eight cantaloupes in a single dose.

"I think that alternative medicine is often given a free pass," he told CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta. "I think we should hold alternative medicine to the same standard that we hold conventional medicine. It lives under this sort of untouchable halo. I think we should be a little more skeptical."

Offit, chief of the division of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, is no stranger to controversy -- previously he has taken on the anti-vaccine movement. His book "Do You Believe in Magic? The Sense and Nonsense of Alternative Medicine," came out Tuesday.

Vitamins and supplements, representing about a $27 billion industry, are necessary to convert food into energy, but it's possible to take them in excess, Offit said. For instance, it's not uncommon to hear of someone taking 1,000 milligrams of vitamin C, but that's about the same amount in 14 oranges.

"Vitamins live under this notion that you can't possibly hurt yourself," he said. "But you can, by challenging Mother Nature and taking these vitamins and concentrating them to these exceptionally large quantities that you would never normally eat."

Opinion: Alternative healing or quackery?

You may have heard the term "antioxidant" as a buzzword that applies to some vitamins. Antioxidants combat free radicals -- molecules produced when your body breaks down food, or by environmental exposures like tobacco smoke and radiation, according to the National Institutes of Health. Free radicals damage cell membranes and DNA.

Doctors recommend a healthy intake of fruits and vegetables containing antioxidants to prevent this from happening and apparently decreasing the risk of conditions such as cancer and heart disease.

However, oxidation is necessary for life, and preventing too much of this process can be a bad thing because cells that need to be destroyed, such as cancer cells, won't be.

There have been several important studies showing the harmful effects of vitamins.


Dr. Paul Offit says everyone should be more skeptical about taking large doses of vitamins.As Offit wrote in an op-ed the New York Times, a 1994 New England Journal of Medicine study on 29,000 Finnish smokers found beta carotene was associated with lung and heart disease death. Beta carotene and vitamin A in combination were shown in another New England Journal of Medicine study to be linked to a 46% greater risk of death from lung cancer than placebo.

A 2012 Cochrane review of multiple randomized clinical trials showed an increase in risk of death may be linked to beta carotene and vitamin E, as well as higher doses of vitamin A.

The likely explanation, Offit said, is that supplemental antioxidant vitamins, taken in large quantities, cause unnatural behavior in the body, counteracting oxidation too much and leaving the immune system weaker in its defenses against invaders.

In response to Offit's op-ed, the nonprofit Consumer Healthcare Products Association countered that there is research underscoring the benefits of multivitamins, and that these supplements are prominent in the health care regime of many consumers.

"Consumers should always use caution when considering 'megadoses' of any supplements, carefully research these choices, and consult a healthcare professional with questions," the CHPA said. "While Dr. Offit shares his own hypothesis on supplemental antioxidants in this piece, it has yet to be substantiated. Until that time, we look forward to future research that would provide guidance for public health."

The Council for Responsible Nutrition, a trade association representing the dietary supplement industry, reacted strongly to Offit's book, saying he "weaves together a series of tired old arguments."

"Dr. Offit's credentials as a respected medical physician are well-established, making his dismissal of the value of dietary supplements all the more unfortunate," council president Steve Mister said in a statement.

"With more than 150 million Americans taking dietary supplements each year, it would be a shame if consumers reading this book mistake the opinion of one doctor for the opinion of the medical community as a whole. It is important for consumers to have an open dialogue with their health care practitioners about their dietary supplement regimens, and hopefully this book won't deter them from doing so."

The abundance of strong studies on the harmful effects of megavitamins suggests to Offit that these supplements are worse than Vioxx. That was an anti-inflammatory drug that its manufacturer, Merck, voluntarily withdrew from the market in 2004 after evidence emerged of its harm to the heart in some people.

"I think if vitamins were a regulated industry, you could argue that megavitamins would have a black box warning on them," he told CNN.

Because the industry is not regulated, no one knows if alternative remedies are actually the same, or have a standard concentration, from batch to batch. No safety or efficacy data is available, either, the way there is with pharmaceuticals regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

"I think people have the misconception that these products -- dietary supplements and vitamins -- are made by elves and old hippies that have meadows and flowers," he said.

The 1994 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act had the effect of defeating the FDA's attempt to regulate the supplements industry, so consumers don't know what they are buying, Offit said.

"We are the victims of enormous marketing campaign regarding some of these vitamins and supplements," he said.

Despite the widespread popularity of vitamins and supplements, doctors shouldn't encourage patients to take these substances just because they want them, he said. "I think the message is this: That patients are not customers, and we're not waiters."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/19/health/vitamins-offit/index.html?hpt=he_t2

 

[ii flash ii]

EBay has good prices on ON whey but I'm just nervous ordering from there... Anyone have a specific seller they purchased from? I came across 10 lb bags for $75-85

 

[timbo109]

man i wish this was as easy as you say it is. If I don't really really think that I NEED to eat, I will go thru a whole day and only eat dinner.... I wake up, get ready for work, grab a couple bottles of water, go to work from 8-5 (taking no lunch break), small snack after work, gym, then dinner.

When I do think about it, I still don't think I eat enough to actually gain seeing as though im 3 months in and even though I look and feel better than I did 3 months ago, I cant gain for ****.... and its 100% because I dont have the appetite to eat as much as I need to. some days I can eat a lot, but then the next day, Ill eat next to nothing, I have a weird appetite.

Ya I guess I'm speaking from my own experience, so it may be more difficult for others. However, you're admitting to skipping a lot of meals - pretty obvious why you can't gain if you're skipping meals. You got to train your appetite just as you're training your body. Ramp up the calories day by day rather than just giving up and blaming your attitude.

Starting a 30 day ab challenge monday.... man I need more definition on my abs... if not a 6 pack can I at least get the outline of one ?

What does the challenge consist of?

First time taking creatine tonight and I just went with the recommended teaspoon instead of loading....excited to see how this goes!

Woah dude. Make sure your emergency contacts are up to date and have the local police department on speed dial just in case!


Speaking of this Kali Muscle, my Youtube subscription email from this week notes that he's featured in videos on three different popular fitness channels: POG, Dom Mazetti's Bro Science Life, and on Twin Muscle Workout. Apparently, he's trying to break into the Youtube fitness game. Haven't watched any of the videos, probably won't.

 

[timbo109]

man i wish this was as easy as you say it is. If I don't really really think that I NEED to eat, I will go thru a whole day and only eat dinner.... I wake up, get ready for work, grab a couple bottles of water, go to work from 8-5 (taking no lunch break), small snack after work, gym, then dinner.

When I do think about it, I still don't think I eat enough to actually gain seeing as though im 3 months in and even though I look and feel better than I did 3 months ago, I cant gain for ****.... and its 100% because I dont have the appetite to eat as much as I need to. some days I can eat a lot, but then the next day, Ill eat next to nothing, I have a weird appetite.

Ya I guess I'm speaking from my own experience, so it may be more difficult for others. However, you're admitting to skipping a lot of meals - pretty obvious why you can't gain if you're skipping meals. You got to train your appetite just as you're training your body. Ramp up the calories day by day rather than just giving up and blaming your attitude.

Starting a 30 day ab challenge monday.... man I need more definition on my abs... if not a 6 pack can I at least get the outline of one ?

What does the challenge consist of?

First time taking creatine tonight and I just went with the recommended teaspoon instead of loading....excited to see how this goes!

Woah dude. Make sure your emergency contacts are up to date and have the local police department on speed dial just in case!


Speaking of this Kali Muscle, my Youtube subscription email from this week notes that he's featured in videos on three different popular fitness channels: POG, Dom Mazetti's Bro Science Life, and on Twin Muscle Workout. Apparently, he's trying to break into the Youtube fitness game. Haven't watched any of the videos, probably won't.

 

[sneakerfan1]

I train strictly in basketball shorts. Long Under Armour or Nike pants on deadlift day. Guess it's all about what's comfortable for you...

 

[Los Angeles]

EBay has good prices on ON whey but I'm just nervous ordering from there... Anyone have a specific seller they purchased from? I came across 10 lb bags for $75-85

Ordere about 4 10lb bags so far and have never had an issue.

Quick shipping, IL sellers

 

[cincoseisdos]

EBay has good prices on ON whey but I'm just nervous ordering from there... Anyone have a specific seller they purchased from? I came across 10 lb bags for $75-85

Purchased 5LB tubs for ~$40 , never had any issue

Sellers:
Blagodimoski2012
Bashamcandy

 

[celticsfan9783]

You need to eat breakfast. Even if you have no appetite you can still eat cereal, or oatmeal is gold for gaining weight. Take a protein shake with you to work, if your too lazy to make one, buy the 30 packs from costco.

Once you start eating in the morning your body gets programmed, lets your body know your officially up. If you eat oatmeal or cereal in the morning, bring a shake with you with your water and eat like you normally do, you WILL gain weight.

Weight gain and loss should be slow, 2 pounds per week max is what we target at the hospital for malnourished or obese (pts who need surgery and need to lose weight to get it)

Repped.

And a fellow NT'er recommended this. Picked one up at Wal-Mart for $25. You can literally throw some milk, whey, oats, fruit and ice into the thing, have a smoothie and take the container off and use it as a cup. It's called the Hamilton Beach single serve blender. Perfect for a quick breakfast or post-workout shake/smoothie.

 

[rook]

Random, but for a soccer player, CR7 is pretty ripped. He has crazy small arms though compared to his chest lol

 

[jewbacca]

Random, but for a soccer player, CR7 is pretty ripped. He has crazy small arms though compared to his chest lol

Not ripped, this photo is photoshopped and he's oiled up.

-typical NT responses

lol

 

[lucho]

if you want a 6 pack then you need to diet

no other way around it... PERIOD

It's probably one of those calendar things going around with increasing reps everyday. 

 

[freeze]

lol it's like a wild insurgence of creatine in this thread lately. Seems like everybody is either taking it or getting hip to it.

you dont take it??

I don't, no. I just haven't seen any conclusive evidence that supports that it really makes a difference over just eating and heavy lifting. I don't feel it's necessary. It's just a supplement, but I feel if you're getting the proper nutrients elsewhere, you don't need it. I think it's overrated. Flooding the muscles with water isn't building the muscles up, it's just giving you a pump. It doesn't increase mass, it increases strengths, by what, 1 or 2 reps? Sounds like you're really just pushing yourself harder because you think there's something else pushing you harder. I'm not saying there's absolutely no benefit, just that I think people allow their imaginations to run when they think they're using something special, thereby sensationalizing the minor raises in this category or that one.

 

[champcruthik]

Crushed some Hot Vinyasa Yoga this morning.

 

[luckyluchiano]

When will this you must eat breakfast myth end? Eat when the hell you want only when you are actually HUNGRY. If you're not hungry don't force yourself To eat.

 

[djyoung08]

When will this you must eat breakfast myth end? Eat when the hell you want only when you are actually HUNGRY. If you're not hungry don't force yourself To eat.

This!!!!

Sometimes I eat breakfast in the AM sometimes I don't eat till the afternoon.

Depends on how im feelin.