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Ak and Vlad gave Pete material for Juan Ep this week
Dudes are doing a lot of pocket watching.
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Ak and Vlad gave Pete material for Juan Ep this week
Dudes are doing a lot of pocket watching.
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A lot of revenge of the nerds energy from Akademiks and DJ Vlad. But they are right.
The shift around 2017ish was happening. And the traditional radio cats could not, and refused to see it.
The shift around 2017ish was happening. And the traditional radio cats could not, and refused to see it.
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Even now the way people talk about music is antiquated. I notice on Budden's pod they seem oblivious to what Ice is saying a lot of times. Labels ate still in charge, because they're in partnership with Apple, Spotify, Pandora...
So those playlist
Them advertising new artist and albums
Who's getting it...
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i could imagine that many people in traditional radio saw the writing on the wall, but what could they really do within the existing business model of radio? the incentive for established traditional radio personalities to embrace the shift was not an obvious one, in hindsight folk like dj ak & vlad look like they were prescient in their approach…
when moreso they were just on the outside looking in & had to go the alternative route, which gave them both some insight but both admitted to aspiring to be radio personalities they just couldn’t get on and thus had to go all in with other platforms…contrast with established personalities, who if they weren’t already getting a good check the path to it was at least known, that would have had to put in additional work on top of their radio obligations
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Vlad talking to Ak is a lil too much goofy energy
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Radio did it to themselves but then could EASILY recover if they were open to changing. It’s that simple.
They’ve got to big a foothold. They’re just to stubborn to evolve
TV networks and radio stations have to much capital to not evolve. Look how record labels have evolved. They’ll find a way to eventually get with the times
They’ve got to big a foothold. They’re just to stubborn to evolve
TV networks and radio stations have to much capital to not evolve. Look how record labels have evolved. They’ll find a way to eventually get with the times
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How exactly could radio reinvent themselves? Radio is for older people now. That's why more 40+ year old stations playing 70's, 80's and 90's have popped up.
The biggest thing was they had no competition other than other stations and it was free. I honestly haven't listened to the radio willingly in a decade, and sometimes I have to remember I have satellite in my car. My phone was low, and I thought, oh, I have satellite I can listen to while it charges.
The biggest thing now is that it's become one big station(iHeart) and they have a couple of apps where you can listen to the radio from all over the country. Still, that's music curated by someone else. You can curate your own playlist.
You might listen to the radio in your car, but who's listening to it in their house? Even car play and aux sort of deaded the car.
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I think the issue is that Pete was also there at the beginning of podcasting, so he could have adjusted and moved in a more proactive way. That's sort of what Ak was saying.
As someone who listened to Combat Jack and Juan Ep. Combat and Pete had issues, because Pete seemed to get jealous of anyone who surpassed his spot because he was first. He wanted people to kiss the ring. He didn't adjust and more and more pods came on the block. You'll still hear him get whiny, because others don't give him credit for blazing the path.
Ak mentioned how he should have had a pod network and done more. I think that was what Pete tried in reaction to Charlamange and Loud Speakers, but he got in bed with Joe and he should have known that wasn't going to work with his history. Especially when Joe started out not doing it for a check.
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one thing i remember about early juan ep was how haphazard it kinda was…rosenberg was much more into it than was cyph and i think they were doing episodes basically right before and/or during doing their actual radio show job, and every few episodes ebro would sort of literally chastise them for the idea of the podcast or they would mention him doing so…any one in the established radio world at that time would have looked the opportunity cost of trying to make in roads with new media, especially at a place like hot 97 that is/was an institution in hip hop
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Yeah, it was wild that Ebro and Hot 97 would let them record in the station and often use some of the guest, because they saw the medium as no threat.
and I think that's one reason they never did more, was because Cyph never really seemed in to it. Cyph actually seems in to it more now, because he's dependent on patreon and comedy money. They're actually consistent now.
That reminded me how Pete seemed sort of annoyed that Nore and Drink Champs were the pod of Rock The Bells and they were just there with Nore allowing them access.
Pete has some self awareness, but not enough to realize his whininess can rub people like LL the wrong way. When he lashes out, it can be perceived a way.Going up to LL and saying, we good.
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Yeah, it was wild that Ebro and Hot 97 would let them record in the station and often use some of the guest, because they saw the medium as no threat.
and I think that's one reason they never did more, was because Cyph never really seemed in to it. Cyph actually seems in to it more now, because he's dependent on patreon and comedy money. They're actually consistent now.
That reminded me how Pete seemed sort of annoyed that Nore and Drink Champs were the pod of Rock The Bells and they were just there with Nore allowing them access.
Going up to LL and saying, we good.
i think the reason(s) they didn’t cement themselves as the de facto hip-hop podcasts was twofold, the main one is they were both actual industry djs/music people so not only did they have the radio show but also dj gigs or event hostings which as result made investing time to the podcast tough, and two i recall their tastes weren’t necessarily mainstream, which maybe doesn’t/didn’t matter to people now or even then, so while they had a bunch of interesting conversations with interesting people (to them, at least) they weren’t going to have those moments that would go beyond a certain type of hip hop head listening…
didn’t know about any friction between rosenberg & nore (or LL?)…i always thought rosenberg was well meaning but his being something of an ‘outsider’ to the nuance of black culture & by that proxy hip hop as well, so things would go over his head and/or he just wouldn’t see/understand
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It's more so Pete's filter. It's not malicious I don't think, it just seems naive. It's like he doesn't see how others will and canl perceive the comments he makes. He's caught up in his own feelings. Nore could feel away about his comments, but I think everyone are frienimies anyway and they've been faking liking people so long it comes natural for them.
LL had some problems with comments Pete made somewhere and dissed him, and then he expects to be invited to an LL production. Rosenberg doesn't even know if it's water under the bridge, because the dummy went up to him and said, we good.
He gets in to petty back and forths, but it's not of the Flex variety where he actually wins. He gets all the wrong attention.
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Listening to Cam on Gillie and Wallo, he was in a 7 album deal with epic. They was playing with him for real, it wasn't that many rappers back then that had 7 albums period.
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Every reddit fanbase is so ******* weird.
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Akademiks in Truth Social
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That Ayisha Diaz post Joe read without revealing the name
In her head she thought that was sweet and thoughtful. I'm sure dudes phone blew up immediately.
Good looking chicks will quickly reveal why nobody wifed them.
In her head she thought that was sweet and thoughtful. I'm sure dudes phone blew up immediately.
Good looking chicks will quickly reveal why nobody wifed them.
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Cam was dope with Gillin and Walo
Same info as drink champs but condensed and Nore not yelling/interrupting
Same info as drink champs but condensed and Nore not yelling/interrupting
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That Ayisha Diaz post Joe read without revealing the name
In her head she thought that was sweet and thoughtful. I'm sure dudes phone blew up immediately.
Good looking chicks will quickly reveal why nobody wifed them.
Basically admitted she only with dude for his bread. These IG booty models really are airheads.
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If dudes gone allow it and be paymasters…..
Can’t be mad at the women. If a dude is willing to be a duck, then so be it.
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Still wild Cam tricked off a Miami scholarship.
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That was a great interview from Cam. Like the way he ended it begging up Gillie and Wallo like that.
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