The Combat Jack Show Thread

[Maximus Meridius]

Damn I ain't know how serious the beef was between Joe and Vlad. Man interviewed all of Joes ex's tryna make a "surviving Joe Budden"

 

[finessence]

Big Hit got that jawn directly next to the family jewel(s) he trippinggggg

 

[Magic33]

That's where his antics belong. Got no idea why and for who he's doing fatboy sse stuff from 6 years ago for.

I like that he's not resting on his laurels and is using Joe's platform for something bigger

but I never got the skits. I thought it was corny, but a couple of those vine/skit dudes like Manboy and that Bach dude have used it to something bigger.

 

[Magic33]

Esso and Clue have a show now

 

[Magic33]

Damn I ain't know how serious the beef was between Joe and Vlad. Man interviewed all of Joes ex's tryna make a "surviving Joe Budden"

I never knew or forgot how the Ransom beef started. It started over something that small?

asking Yayo about Joe's dad?

 

[wavycrocket]

Esso and Clue have a show now

I was shocked to see Esso re-appear . Apparently, he’s clues man. That ***** something else man lol

 

[Mark Antony]

Oh ya'll thought you were gon kill Esso. Some big guests off top, doesn't seem like the appetite for rap interviews is there like it used to be though.

 

[finessence]

Esso had good points and Emory cool as hell. His outlook on fashion and black representation is top notch

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Can't even recognize dontcallmewhitegirl

Why she do this to herself??

 

[6pac]

yo that’s crazy. going thru her page she blew up…she used to not be bad looking.

shawty hit herself wit the

this is funny tho “you just lying…off beat”

 

[tokes99]

Can't even recognize dontcallmewhitegirl

Why she do this to herself??

she must be eating good!

this is funny tho “you just lying…off beat”

while i understand the sentiment, hip-hop is like the only ‘creative’ art form where actually being ‘creative’ is kinda frowned upon…and definitely understand that part of the criticism is the fronting/lying that many artist participate in but..yea

 

[6pac]

she must be eating good!



while i understand the sentiment, hip-hop is like the only ‘creative’ art form where actually being ‘creative’ is kinda frowned upon…and definitely understand that part of the criticism is the fronting/lying that many artist participate in but..yea

I think there’s a difference between the artistic exaggeration people like Wu and Hov did vs. selling yourself as autobiographical like many of the post 2010’s-2020’s rappers. But you right tho. it’s definitely a grey area of subjectivity and confusion between people not wanting to hear Tekashi’s lies vs something like the Gunna or Boston Richey thing vs. us not treating Hov the same as either over something like “92 bricks”

 

[tokes99]

I think there’s a difference between the artistic exaggeration people like Wu and Hov did vs. selling yourself as autobiographical like many of the post 2010’s-2020’s rappers. But you right tho. it’s definitely a grey area of subjectivity and confusion between people not wanting to hear Tekashi’s lies vs something like the Gunna or Boston Richey thing vs. us not treating Hov the same as either over something like “92 bricks”

it’s just an interesting thing about some of hip-hop/rap culture…is funny too because ultimately does the audience really care if the music is actually good? authenticity definitely matters but sometimes i think that authenticity often is conflated with so many things in hip hop specifically…

 

[Magic33]

Oh ya'll thought you were gon kill Esso. Some big guests off top, doesn't seem like the appetite for rap interviews is there like it used to be though.

I never disliked Esso, it was more Lispy and Math that annoy me on the show.

I still like Theo and I think Champ was a good addition.

Gat Murdah Dude is just there for the interaction and drinks. He's not even listening half the time and will ask something that was already talked about.

 

[Magic33]

it’s just an interesting thing about some of hip-hop/rap culture…is funny too because ultimately does the audience really care if the music is actually good? authenticity definitely matters but sometimes i think that authenticity often is conflated with so many things in hip hop specifically…

I don't even judge it, stuff like Travis Scott and Uzi and really rap to me now. It's another subgenre of hip hop. I know it has to exist for rap to grow and not become redundant, since it's still supposed to be for the youth.

 

[Magic33]

Stuff like this makes me look at Chatty funny



You're going to say Ak never invited you, but Schulz went on his pod but Ak's closer to Charlemagne He obviously invited Schulz, but didn't invite you? Does Charlemagne even know Andrew has done it?

I used to think Chatty was a loyal dude because of Wax at least, but now it just looks like he's an opportunist.

Much less Schulz being the one defending Ak.

 

[tokes99]

I don't even judge it, stuff like Travis Scott and Uzi and really rap to me now. It's another subgenre of hip hop. I know it has to exist for rap to grow and not become redundant, since it's still supposed to be for the youth.

yea obviously it is not universally applied to every artist/genre of hip-hop/rap but the idea of being ‘real’ is much too pervasive…and still with that being the case many have such a myopic understanding of what it means that being ‘real’ is almost used as a means to an end; i just think it’s a funny critique when actual artists are effectively saying don’t be imaginative as tho authenticity/reality is the only way for something to be ‘true’

 

[Magic33]

 

[Mark Antony]

The way Gillie's neck is torqued already make me not wanna click play.

 

[finessence]

You can be creative in hip hop but you still have to RAP!

All that autotune BS adlin, gibberish and nonsense sounding stuff is not RAP.
Bottom line, the main principle of rapping is the rhyming, lyricism and flow.

A lot this stuff is pop music.

“Creativity” in rap is NOT frowned upon today. That’s exactly why it’s so trash. These dudes are not rappers. They’re all pop stars using the same rhythms and beats.

All creativity doesn’t = good product.

Call it something else

 

[wavycrocket]

Ray Luv step mom was Cab Calloway daughter

 

[tokes99]

You can be creative in hip hop but you still have to RAP!

All that autotune BS adlin, gibberish and nonsense sounding stuff is not RAP.
Bottom line, the main principle of rapping is the rhyming, lyricism and flow.

A lot this stuff is pop music.

“Creativity” in rap is NOT frowned upon today. That’s exactly why it’s so trash. These dudes are not rappers. They’re all pop stars using the same rhythms and beats.

All creativity doesn’t = good product.

Call it something else

i’m not trying to define the how &/or what of creativity…tho i may not find certain things, like the crooning of many artist today, appealing to say they didn’t make popular a certain creativity/newness to the genre is a bit of stodginess also not saying by dint of being creative will the output be good …i just find it funny that in hip-hop/rap especially, the prevailing modus operandi for artists & fans alike is that the art must be informed by actual lived experience, the ‘couldn’t talk about if i ain’t lived’ type ish. which is cool but it’s not the only way obviously…

 

[finessence]

just find it funny that in hip-hop/rap especially, the prevailing modus operandi for artists & fans alike is that the art must be informed by actual lived experience, the ‘couldn’t talk about if i ain’t lived’ type ish. which is cool but it’s not the only way obviously…

… that’s the point of why it’s called HIP-HOP/RAP. Hip hop was built off authenticity, accuracy, and the plight of black people.

You can’t go changing the rules just because. Rap is a lived experience. That’s what separates it from different genres.

It’s like taking death or killing out of war, or like the NBA raising the rims to 12 feet

You gotta remember that hip hop spawned from povert, low income, struggling and hustling.

So if you ain’t come from the struggle, but out here faking the funk but you’re really from a good home or the suburbs, you were called a phony.

That’s the bottom line.

The first real “hit” street record sums it up. Don’t come in our genre faking it like you’ve come out the struggle, when you really didn’t…

It’s basically an insult like man, you aren’t “one of us”, how dare you try and upwardly move into these circles and make money, when you really never dealt with murder, death, hustling, food stamps, low income, gang wars, selling work/hustling to provide for the family, etc.

 

[tokes99]

… that’s the point of why it’s called HIP-HOP/RAP. Hip hop was built off authenticity, accuracy, and the plight of black people.

You can’t go changing the rules just because. Rap is a lived experience. That’s what separates it from different genres.

It’s like taking death or killing out of war, or like the NBA raising the rims to 12 feet

You gotta remember that hip hop spawned from povert, low income, struggling and hustling.

So if you ain’t come from the struggle, but out here faking the funk but you’re really from a good home or the suburbs, you were called a phony.

That’s the bottom line.

The first real “hit” street record sums it up. Don’t come in our genre faking it like you’ve come out the struggle, when you really didn’t…

It’s basically an insult like man, you aren’t “one of us”, how dare you try and upwardly move into these circles and make money, when you really never dealt with murder, death, hustling, food stamps, low income, gang wars, selling work/hustling to provide for the family, etc.

to use repurpose one of your analogies, nba is only a singular organization it isn’t the totality of basketball…there are not only different levels that have different rule sets but there’s also the informal & stylistic differences; you can get away with/use different moves/styles of play depending on the format

i’m not saying artist should portray themselves as something that they are not but there aren’t really any rules to art either, for better and/or worse…the ultimate point is to try to make good music, everything beyond that is kinda politics & theater in a way

 

[6pac]

slightly related to ^ yalls discussion in my mind…cuz if this was real it would slap and fit right in with the hillbillies type sound…lol