The Combat Jack Show Thread

[Magic33]

This is something I’ve seen become damn near a new standard over the last couple of years. People have been (and seemingly still are) making podcasts to discuss other podcasts, rather than to create content based on thoughts they formulated on their own.

And don’t get me wrong, a lot of content that exists out there has a modicum of being reactionary to some degree, but with some folks, that’s their only schtick. Like I said, I had to stop listening to the BI episode because son was harping for an hour about Akademiks.

Just say you don’t like the ***** and keep it moving.

It's annoying, because you'll just want to watch a video of an event, and instead it's someone giving their summary and thoughts of the events intertwined. It's a hustle, but it's not sustainable. It's really that you aren't entertaining enough or known enough to make it on your own.

and at the same time these people wouldn't find it cool if someone did that to them, they just aren't large enough.

 

[Magic33]

Here we go again

I understand Ja's frustration, but it's sort of like a Dame situation. 50 already won the war and you can't get a do over or make people think differently.

People will see it as one sided, even though 50 does the jabs all the time.

I don't know, Ja has done too much to be talking about 50 for 2 hours.

 

[finessence]

Bottom line, Ja’s music ain’t far off from 50.

Catalog for catolog it’s close. I understand 50s beef with Supreme/Ja/Chris/Irv Gotti…. And I understand Ja’s loyalty with the DUDES WHO HELPED MAKE HIM A MILLIONAIRE….


People love fronting on Ja’s music. When ironically, 50 went pop himself and made some TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE bubble gum songs.

Ja’s music is palpable, he also paved the way for a lotttttt of these sing-song n_.

Andre 3k, Ja, Z-Ro, Nate Dogg, you have to put Ja in there.

I hate the current auto tune, singing s*** but Ja contributed.

Ja was top 5 in 1999-2002, as far as mainstream goes. It’s cool to front on him.

This s*** is like Lakers/Celtics in the 80s, both teams were successful. Boston won 3, Lakers won 5 ships.

Both arguments can be correct. And fans got to stop acting like 50 is musically “like that” dude has so many filler and trash songs, it ain’t funny. Dude really peaked off 1 album.

I hate the fact that people act like 50 blew Ja away musically. That s*** is disgusting. This n_ Ja was rhyming side by side with Jay and DMX. Even a potential group. Hov knew Ja was a threat. Ja found his lane like LL Cool J and started making ballads for the ladies and it was a WRAP. He knew where his bread was buttered.

50 probably was lowkey jealous that Ja was getting love from the h***. 50 literally tried to backdoor Ja and started doing songs geared towards female fans

 

[Mark Antony]

I was introduced to him through IG. It kept pushing me his podcast 3 or 4 years ago. He would talk about situations in music and normally on others podcast. So his following, so I wouldn't be sure it's real.

Seems like he's grown enough to reach Charlemagne. He's one of the people who picked sides in the Rory & Mal and Joe split and talked about it a lot.

What I never liked is the YT dudes who analyze what others do. I never liked how a lot of his content was talking about others. You're listening to pods to agree with a side and not just be entertained? And then tell people about what you heard, felt and do and don't agree with? Why should I listen to you for that, when I can go directly to them?

It's weird how he got in touch with Ish and Flip differently. Messaging someone about him being with Joe. Then shortly thereafter you pop up with Charlemagne and Andrew? I'm disappointed in you going with that problematic person. Meanwhile let me mingle with these problematic people?

Ok yeah. That was my takeaway, like this sounds like some random reddit user talking like he's stamped and knows all these people. It's a little weird but I get that lane exists now. He's really got a thing for Joe and Ak.

 

[Mark Antony]

I don't know, Ja has done too much to be talking about 50 for 2 hours.

I agree but I see people still can't separate from that beef and be objective and get fooled by internet jokes.

 

[Magic33]

The whole thing was 50 had the more believable avatar.

Ja was 5'5 with no muscles at the time and looked like he was trying to be Tupac, so when you call him a Wanksta you believe it.

and there was a backlash to the chick songs like there was towards Puff and the shiny suits. 50 told everyone it was corny, while using the same formula.

 

[Magic33]

I agree but I see people still can't separate from that beef and be objective and get fooled by internet jokes.

I understand it, but I think a lot of it is also laziness from the interviewers. They want the salacious 50 click bait click headlines.

I'm more interested in other stuff like maintaining a friendship with Ashanti and staying neutral or him, Jay and X blowing up around the same time. Even the Death Row and Nas stuff.

 

[Mark Antony]

Yeah he even said it to start off the Math interview "I've been a part of lot of different **** and crews" -- Ok let's talk about 50 cent.

 

[finessence]

I understand it, but I think a lot of it is also laziness from the interviewers. They want the salacious 50 click bait click headlines.

I'm more interested in other stuff like maintaining a friendship with Ashanti and staying neutral or him, Jay and X blowing up around the same time. Even the Death Row and Nas stuff.

Of course a guy like Math (who thrives off drama and gossip) won’t address this type of stuff. I bet the point of him even interviewing Ja was to pick, prod and probe into the 50 cent beef. He doesn’t care about that type of or the full scope of Ja’s career.

Dudes like him love to instigate and they really aren’t that smart as far as interpersonal communication goes.

Math is that dude at the corner store or strip mall who’s posted up every day talking about other n_’s

 

[Magic33]

Ok yeah. That was my takeaway, like this sounds like some random reddit user talking like he's stamped and knows all these people. It's a little weird but I get that lane exists now. He's really got a thing for Joe and Ak.

It's weird, because the whole thing is how you're honest and real, but then you show it's really about who shows you interest first.

Your whole thing is Joe's character, but then you get with Charlamagne, because he gives you traction. He had to have been talking about Charlamagne over the past couple of years.

and Ak supposed to be cool with Charlamagne and you let it fly shows character also.

The Ish going he's cool, not realizing dude is trying to be one of the outside voices that causes problems with the crew. Schulz is defending your man? It made him uncomfortable. And if you would let someone say something publicly like that, what would you allow behind closed doors?

and Joe and Ak aren't mentioning his name, because they see the play for popularity.

 

[Magic33]

It's wild that dude is debating what value does Ak have and his existence in the culture, but he's in the middle of dudes doing their **** talk bit in the middle of their conversation

 

[finessence]

It's wild that dude is debating what value does Ak have and his existence in the culture, but he's in the middle of dudes doing their **** talk bit in the middle of their conversation

I wish dudes like him would realize that THEY’RE the reason a guy like Akademiks exist. And clowns like Charlemagne have made it worse.

They allowed everyone in hip hop, didn’t teach or play certain music around their kids, most were absent anyway, so how can they critical.

It’s such a glaring amount of black kids who hate or don’t care about me older R&B, hip hop, Jazz, blues etc and it’s their PARENTS and relatives fault.

And cats know that I’m not an AK fan but older guys can’t get mad at him for taking advantage of the decline in hip hop.

Old heads out here criticizing but talk to their kids, or neices and nephews and I bet they don’t know of any older hip hop songs and they’re fans of guys like Akademiks. That’s the irony.

Black people are notorious for letting certain stuff get watered down but want to point the finger. I can’t stand it.

Akademiks is a product of bad teaching and child rearing (as far as music history and theory are concerned). But these dudes always overlook that fact. Dudes are complicit and just as guilty as the dudes they dislike.

When was the last time we had a list of the best verses or lyrical breakdown? It’s non existent nowadays.

 

[Magic33]

I wish dudes like him would realize that THEY’RE the reason a guy like Akademiks exist. And clowns like Charlemagne have made it worse.

They allowed everyone in hip hop, didn’t teach or play certain music around their kids, most were absent anyway, so how can they critical.

It’s such a glaring amount of black kids who hate or don’t care about me older R&B, hip hop, Jazz, blues etc and it’s their PARENTS and relatives fault.

And cats know that I’m not an AK fan but older guys can’t get mad at him for taking advantage of the decline in hip hop.

Old heads out here criticizing but talk to their kids, or neices and nephews and I bet they don’t know of any older hip hop songs and they’re fans of guys like Akademiks. That’s the irony.

Black people are notorious for letting certain stuff get watered down but want to point the finger. I can’t stand it.

It's weird, because he's talking about what value does Ak add, when Ak has hundreds of thousands of followers. It's hating. Just say it's not for me. Same as Uzi's music, not for me. Not everything has to be for you.

Meanwhile his value is doing the same, talking about others, but you're upset because your following isn't as big as his.

and I assume he's 35+, Ak isn't for your demographic, so why do you even care? Just like that Chicago stuff. It wasn't for me, so I didn't care about it.

and he keeps talking about himself and what he's done. What's your resume where someone should listen to you talking about it?

 

[finessence]

It's weird, because he's talking about what value does Ak add, when Ak has hundreds of thousands of followers. It's hating. Just say it's not for me. Same as Uzi's music, not for me. Not everything has to be for you.

Meanwhile his value is doing the same, talking about others, but you're upset because your following isn't as big as his.

and I assume he's 35+, Ak isn't for your demographic, so why do you even care? Just like that Chicago stuff. It wasn't for me, so I didn't care about it.

and he keeps talking about himself and what he's done. What's your resume where someone should listen to you talking about it?

Yup. Sounds like the classic, bitter pocket watcher. And these dudes call themselves “men”. Nothing that you’re uninterested in should bother you that much. People hate aging, they hate change.

Akademiks appeals to the youth who’ve come up in the internet/social media/YouTube age…. People 15-28 years old. This Big Loon cat is no younger than 38, why is he concerned about an age bracket that has absolutely nothing in common with him? It’s ridiculous.

That’s like trying to force European futbol fans to like American football. Either way, both products generate billions of dollars and viewership. People just can’t cope with someone not like them or their product.

 

[wavycrocket]

“Them two girls from that whorible decisions podcast”

“My homies two cousins I used to hump on a lil bit”

 

[Arthur Shelby]

 

[wavycrocket]

I understand Mecca’s frustration now. Because Math is something else



Van Latham with the patience of a saint. Actually reminds me of how I sometimes be arguing with ******s in real life, and they not hearing me

 

[6pac]

Yup. Sounds like the classic, bitter pocket watcher. And these dudes call themselves “men”. Nothing that you’re uninterested in should bother you that much. People hate aging, they hate change.

Akademiks appeals to the youth who’ve come up in the internet/social media/YouTube age…. People 15-28 years old. This Big Loon cat is no younger than 38, why is he concerned about an age bracket that has absolutely nothing in common with him? It’s ridiculous.

That’s like trying to force European futbol fans to like American football. Either way, both products generate billions of dollars and viewership. People just can’t cope with someone not like them or their product.

Ak is probably early/mid 30’s his damn self lol.

Surprised to see people not egging on the “Ak is a cornball” sentiment from dude and I’m sure Charlemagne is too lol. He def supposed to be his Tax type character lol

I like Loon, remind me of a ***** in the barbershop who know it all and Ak has value at times.

I think Loon problem is that he say what he think the culture wanna hear without really having depth to his stance beyond “I’m a real ***** and I’m for the culture”…prime example…Trap Lore was kinda getting him

 

[wavycrocket]

 

[Magic33]

Ak is probably early/mid 30’s his damn self lol.

Surprised to see people not egging on the “Ak is a cornball” sentiment from dude and I’m sure Charlemagne is too lol. He def supposed to be his Tax type character lol

I like Loon, remind me of a ***** in the barbershop who know it all and Ak has value at times.

I think Loon problem is that he say what he think the culture wanna hear without really having depth to his stance beyond “I’m a real ***** and I’m for the culture”…prime example…Trap Lore was kinda getting him

That was part of the expose of the chick, Ak is in his early 30's.

Ak is a cornball, but everyone knows that by now. That doesn't stop him from being an entertaining one. Loon isn't entertaining or funny, so why should we listen? His whole thing can't be how real you are and what you come from. When his whole thing is to talk about other peoples opinions and moves. That in itself is a contradiction. The next man wouldn't be concerned about Ak. He's not forcing people to listen to him. Just give your alternate side without being a hater. But he knows there's less of a market for that, and he's trying to fight for relevancy. He keeps talking about value, but what value does he add? So we can be the bitter old dude brigade who hate on young kids and the way they move? Ak got more views on a henny rant dolo than he has with Lil Baby.

A comedian is saying Ak's funny and makes me laugh, and the non-serious guy who is never funny says no he's not. It's like come on man.

and you having all these problems with Ak and Trap Lore, but you're cool with Charlamagne and Alt Right Andy....

and why does he keep pocket watching Joe and why he doesn't use ads...it's like damn dude, do what's best for you. I don't understand, so. I appreciate it, because I hate those three minute long ads when I get in the shower that I can't skip.

 

[a blinkin]

Dude’s definitely a hater. No way in hell you spend an hour plus, talking about someone who you don’t believe has value.

I was listening to it at first like “who the hell is this guy to say Ak doesn’t have value”

We’ve seen that, historically, going the hater route doesn’t get you far. People eventually look at you and wonder if that’s all there is to your draw.

 

[Magic33]

I understand Mecca’s frustration now. Because Math is something else



Van Latham with the patience of a saint. Actually reminds me of how I sometimes be arguing with ******s in real life, and they not hearing me

because Math isn't as intelligent as he thinks he is, but wants the show to revolve around him.

and that's why his interviews can go left.

The way he'll step over other dudes questions for some of his dumb questions is just

 

[Magic33]

Dude’s definitely a hater. No way in hell you spend an hour plus, talking about someone who you don’t believe has value.

I was listening to it at first like “who the hell is this guy to say Ak doesn’t have value”

We’ve seen that, historically, going the hater route doesn’t get you far. People eventually look at you and wonder if that’s all there is to your draw.

Imagine watching every move someone makes with an ice grill just so you can talk about it

 

[Magic33]

This story is still wild

dude came as a plus one to a baby shower in some sweats, brought nothing, ate and bounced

 

[a blinkin]