THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Official Thread - 6/28 - TV Spot 10 on Last Page (More Selina Kyle)

[airfreshh23]

Its quite easy. This is not a kids batman.
Kids are the money generator for the movies.
C. Nolan does not strike me as the kid friendly director. His movies really make you think.

 

[Bert.]

It seems to me that the Joker would have been much better suited for the role of judge during the tribunals. |I

most likely would have been the outcome if Heath was still alive

 

[girthbrooks]

^Joker as the judge would've truly been so dope...including him so subtly would've taken this film to higher heights.

but this was ultimately a great film, all in the trilogy have been but the finality that this film provides was just great to watch.

truly don't understand how people thinking that Bane is equal to the Joker or surpasses him is so far fetched.

Heath put on a great performance, no one can take that away, but I think that Tom Hardy was equally compelling.

The Joker was maniacal, but Bane was a savage.

dude really disconnected the entire city from any form of salvation from the outside world, even had the PRESIDENT addressing the situation.

locked an entire police force underground (c'mon man), and was the most physical adversary that we've seen take on Batman in any film adaption.

When he reveals that he's been plotting under the research and development dept. the entire time followed by "...and then, I will break you"?! classic...purely classic.

The hand to hand scenes were also incredible. Nolan wasn't lying when he described Bane's style as "calculated and gruesome"..dude beat the mask off this man.

Like many others have said: my only complaint is that it's over. 

And one question: was it common knowledge that Bruce was Batman? Those who distributed his will had to have been aware, but how exactly did he "die" if that was the case. I am still a bit lost in that regard.

 

[feeture]

my favorite line from bane: "search the body, then i will kill you."

he never got like super hyped, even when he was painting bruce in the sewer. he was whooping him and speaking to him in a cool, calm and condescending tone the entire time. the disrespect x swag x beastwork was unreal.

and that superman punch that put bruce down....damn.

 

[thedeek]

Am I the only one who likes it better that it was Cillian Murphy as the judge cameo?

 

[deleted]

I thought the cameo was cool.

 

[True Blues]

Am I the only one who likes it better that it was Cillian Murphy as the judge cameo?

From a character perspective, it makes more sense to have Dr. Crane preside over the court as Crane has both previous ties to the LOS, and is more likely to take orders from Bane. On the other hand, it is difficult to imagine Joker taking directives from anyone, and symbolically, he represents the antithesis of order and justice-- even if it is a mock court.

Nevertheless, it would have been unreal to see Joker reprise his role as judge from TAS. RIP Heath.

 

[swendro]

. Personally I would have been happier if it was just someone random in power, and not bring back Cillian Murphy's
Scarecrow

Why don't you like things that are fun? The court scenes added humor and charm to the movie that would have been lost had it been a random person. In TDK scarecrow was a low level thug. It was good to see he found purpose in the new Gotham city.

 

[KingParappa]

Am I the only one who likes it better that it was Cillian Murphy as the judge cameo?

I loved both of his cameos. Its one of the things most superhero movies don't do. Just showing that he was alive had me amped

 

[kobeoverbron]

had me remembering the Nolan trilogy..

 

[geoff2005]

I don't think he becomes what we know as "Robin". Robin is his first name, I don't think he would then become a hero named Robin. D. Grayson is Robin, not some cop named Robin Blake. It seemed to look like he took over the Batman mantle. If he's not the next Batman, then some new unknown hero.

i think it left all the imagination but if they were to actually make it, its possible he could be that batman 2000 or i forgot the animated series they had several years ago when bruce got old and a teen took his place

 

[geoff2005]

And one question: was it common knowledge that Bruce was Batman? Those who distributed his will had to have been aware, but how exactly did he "die" if that was the case. I am still a bit lost in that regard.

i would say, they probably said he died during trials or was murdered by one of banes guys, something along those lines. the city was chaotic nobody really knew who survived and died. they could have easily said they found bruces body on the streets.

 

[that dude173]

i think it left all the imagination but if they were to actually make it, its possible he could be that batman 2000 or i forgot the animated series they had several years ago when bruce got old and a teen took his place

Thats Nightwing/Robin. Def not Terry Mcginess who is the person you're talking about from Batman Beyond.

 

[geoff2005]

Thats Nightwing/Robin. Def not Terry Mcginess who is the person you're talking about from Batman Beyond.

yeah it makes more sense of him being nightwing with his background and personality but the way they just threw him into batcave and etc... seems more like Terry..

however it is probably nightwing/robin since he threw all 3 robins into 1 guy.

 

[the hater boxden]

This movie was beyond good. I don't know what some of you were expecting. Actually, I do know. You thought some how they'd resurrect Heath Ledger to play the Joker in some form. Then again, most of you, most of the world, was clamoring about how the guy from "10 Things I Hate about You" and "A Knight's Tale" shouldn't be allowed to follow Jack Nicholson. Then he ends up tragically passing, all the while KILLING his role as the Joker, and on top of the acclaim he deservedly received, he's given this ultimate "none before, none shall come after" treatment.
I saw someone say Heath was the "face of the franchise".
Are you serious?
Christian Bale in Begins is Bruce Wayne. Christian Bale is Batman in The Dark Knight. He is BOTH in Rises. Not only is he both, he gives us the BEST rendition of both ever.
I know I sound like I'm *****ing up a storm, but it's pretty aggravating to see how unappreciative we've become, not only as Americans, but just people in general. I've really yet to see a legitimate reason from anyone why they didn't like this movie. I've seen complaints about "it's rushed" or "the ending sucked"... but no one can elaborate on it. It's as if one person see's a few people repeat the same thing and then just chimes right in. Same goes with music. That's why 808s was hated when it first dropped, yet now every other week in Music we have some thread about it being a classic and being some of Kanye's best work. Someone wasn't comfortable with it first week, said something negative, the sheep follow.
The entire movie is about Bruce Wayne finally facing the reality that he is just a man. A man in a suit. That determination, heart, will, and his SOUL are what makes him Batman. Not the money. Not the gadgets. Not his reckless abandon because he's not afraid of anything.
As far as some of the more common complaints about the movie, well. Bane's mask; what more explanation do you need? Use context clues. He got the **** kicked out of him by a prison full of dudes. The minute the pipes on it bust, he was in pain. It's a painkiller. Do we need the chemistry and the science behind it? This isn't Breaking Bad. It doesn't kill him, just makes him pretty numb. I'm pretty sure Chris Nolan even kind of touched on that in an interview.
Auto Pilot? Yes. Absoulutely, 100%. Rewatch the movie. The first time Bruce and Lucius talk, post-him using the Bat, he makes a remark along the lines of "Yeah, it worked great... even WITHOUT the auto pilot." If you've got any common sense, you can tell that he's acknowledging that it's lack of auto pilot is a problem they should fix, regardless of its current state. They wouldn't have even brought that up earlier in the movie if not to tie in the with conclusion.
That's probably way more than anyone wanted to read, but I've probably followed the Batman mythos just as much as I have Michael Jordan, which is what originally led me to NT. I can't even fathom how you can say TDK was such a great movie, and then say Rises wasn't. I saw someone say they were the same movie and I couldn't have been ANYMORE confused. Either way, the only disappointing part is that it's over.
Hopefully whomever gets the greenlight in 4-5 years for the franchise reboot (confirmed already) doesn't give us crap. Personally, I'd love to see a Batman Beyond.

man what?

that album was ***

still is

 

[demondays]

Why don't you like things that are fun? The court scenes added humor and charm to the movie that would have been lost had it been a random person. In TDK scarecrow was a low level thug. It was good to see he found purpose in the new Gotham city.

That's just my personal opinion. Had it been a random person or Bane's lead henchman being the judge I don't think we'd even be talking about this. His presence felt kinda forced and it's not like people are goin 'damn that scene was too serious, it needed some humor'. I aint opposed to having a Cillian cameo, but it's either give him a minor but real role in the story or make it a true cameo. It's not like he was the only source of humor and charm. The interaction between Catwoman and Batman provided alot of that. Bruce and Alfred too after picking him up (Just you Mr. Wayne?). I think a more proper spot to place a Cillian Murphy cameo was when they were walking Selena Kyle to her cell at Blackgate prison and have him be one of the inmates, and have him say something snarky if you wanted more humor and charm.

But this is just us trying to inject our spin had we done the movie. It was still boss and we're just nitpicking because of how perfect we want it to be. 

On the subject of fantasizing about bringin back the Joker or other characters from the Bat universe, imagine that judge was HARVEY DENT, flippin his coin to decide what the punishment is!! But of course this is just fantasy and the story arc wouldn't be the same had he been alive and brought back.

 

[donmega]

It seems to me that the Joker would have been much better suited for the role of judge during the tribunals. |I

I still think that it was Nolan's plan all along. I've read an old Aaron Eckhart interview (2009 I think) where he stated that he ain't coming back for a 3rd film. He said something to the lines of Nolan wants the Two Face to die at the end of TDK so there was no coming back for him after that. He did state though that there was always a plan to bring Heath back for the 3rd one though he did not say as to what his role would be. So judging from what we've seen Nolan do to the Scarecrow, I think he would've put Joker in a cameo role in TDKR if Heath was still alive.

 

[k2theablam]

I still think that it was Nolan's plan all along. I've read an old Aaron Eckhart interview (2009 I think) where he stated that he ain't coming back for a 3rd film. He said something to the lines of Nolan wants the Two Face to die at the end of TDK so there was no coming back for him after that. He did state though that there was always a plan to bring Heath back for the 3rd one though he did not say as to what his role would be. So judging from what we've seen Nolan do to the Scarecrow, I think he would've put Joker in a cameo role in TDKR if Heath was still alive.

I believe nolan stated that if heath was alive, the third film would have been based on the Joker as the primary villain, not bane. The script was completely rethought once heath passed.

 

[donmega]

I believe nolan stated that if heath was alive, the third film would have been based on the Joker as the primary villain, not bane. The script was completely rethought once heath passed.

I haven't heard/read of that one before. It would be interesting to know how he would've ended the trilogy with Joker as his main villain if that would've been the case.

 

[tr1ll]

If Heath would have been alive and would've been the judge in the court scene, the theater would have blown smooth the **** up! But theres no way they would;ve brought the Joker back for a minor roll, he was too popular.

 

[gllahone84]

So we're comparing 808s with TDKR...

 

[DPancakes]

Having Joker AND Bane team up against Batman would have been epic to ending the trilogy. They should've have already written the script to the 3rd film while writing the script to the second. That way, they could've just continued filming for the 3rd film after completion of the 2nd.

 

[demondays]

Having Joker AND Bane team up against Batman would have been epic to ending the trilogy. They should've have already written the script to the 3rd film while writing the script to the second. That way, they could've just continued filming for the 3rd film after completion of the 2nd.

As epic as Heath was, i'd like to not have the Joker in this one as well. He shone in TDK and had his time. Having him in this one as well with the way everyone's hanging from his balls, Bane and Talia won't get any love. Bringin back all the characters for one movie would make this start to look like the Avengers IMO. If they did, this movie would have to be like 5 hours long just to get everyone their moment to shine without being overwhelming.

With all the love the Joker's getting, i'd prefer they do a prequel or an origins story, instead of cramming him into this one. Wouldn't mind an origins movie for Bane too, showing what happened to him after he left the pit and how he rose in power.

 

[swendro]

Having Joker AND Bane team up against Batman would have been epic to ending the trilogy. They should've have already written the script to the 3rd film while writing the script to the second. That way, they could've just continued filming for the 3rd film after completion of the 2nd.

What about Inception?

 

[mike2389]

just came back from watching it for a 2nd time...

it was even better as i wasn't overwhelmed with the midnight debut atmosphere. i was able to sit back, enjoy and take it all in.

Banes voice didn't annoy me nearly as much this time.

i'll see it 1 last time in IMAX to take in a different experience

1 question though...

Spoiler

did they show Bruce fixing the bat's auto pilot? my friend insists but i didn't spot it