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The Minnesota Timberwolves Thread: Timberwolves, Anthony Bennett part ways
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Wiggins and Rubio playing 40+ minutes in games that don't matter
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Gotta build for next season.
Besides Kmart and Pek I see everyone coming back. Chase might get to go to a team for cheap who believes they can get the good Chase out of him.
Besides Kmart and Pek I see everyone coming back. Chase might get to go to a team for cheap who believes they can get the good Chase out of him.
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they don't.
The draft picks matters this season a game in February doesn't. Even if it did matter no one else other than Thibbs is playing veteran players 40+ minutes let alone a rookie or a young player coming off a serious ankle sprain.
When Wiggins Achillies explode you won't sit down and say wow it was so great we beat the clips in febuary.
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Development as individuals and as a team matters.
And the entire Minnesota roster has been short-handed the majority of the season except for the young guys. Who the **** else they supposed to play?
Rubio is back and Wiggins doesn't have much time playing with him. Same goes for Dieng. There's nothing wrong with the plan.
Tenativity in playing young guys for fear of injury is stupid. **** happens. Older guys I can understand, but I'm not taking away valuable learning spots for Wiggins because there's a possibility of injury. That's there no matter what.
Get to the last few weeks of the season and contemplate resting them. Not March 2nd. Not with them only having a handful of games with their starting PG.
And the entire Minnesota roster has been short-handed the majority of the season except for the young guys. Who the **** else they supposed to play?
Rubio is back and Wiggins doesn't have much time playing with him. Same goes for Dieng. There's nothing wrong with the plan.
Tenativity in playing young guys for fear of injury is stupid. **** happens. Older guys I can understand, but I'm not taking away valuable learning spots for Wiggins because there's a possibility of injury. That's there no matter what.
Get to the last few weeks of the season and contemplate resting them. Not March 2nd. Not with them only having a handful of games with their starting PG.
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I know it'd be lowering the opportunities for Wiggins to put stress on his muscles and tendons, and possibly tear something. When you're playing for nothing, what's the point? I think from an analytic-based standpoint that's probably the best route and the one nearly everybody is beginning to adopt.
But Kawhi's playing 31.6 minutes, Andrew Wiggins is playing 34.9. It's too much in my opinion, that needs to go way down.
It's only about 180 seconds more that Kawhi is on a basketball court per game compared to Wiggins. That doesn't indicate a massive separation in philosophies.
Between Pop, who has been 'credited' with a lot of the minutes reductions taking place league-wide during the regular season, and Flip, who is stuck in an old-age NBA mindset. In a lot of ways I agree - like in the way he exchanges draft picks for players - not weighing the opportunity cost correctly. All bad.
Kawhi's quad is not nearly as worrisome as Rubio or Wiggins, but they're in the same age range where you'd operate in playing them more than those who are 27, 30, 33, etc. But the differential in minutes isn't as steep as you're inclined to believe it would be I think, based on what we hear.
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Updated basement standings:
1. 12-47 (.203) Knicks
2. 13-47 (.217) 76ers
3. 13-46 (.220) Timberwolves
4. 16-43 (.271) Lakers
5. 19-42 (.311) Magic
6. 21-39 (.350) Nuggets
7. 21-37 (.362) Kings
Even though almost all these teams are in tank mode the Wolves are looking (as of now) as finishing in the top 5 worst records. Which, as we know, means they will have probably the 7th pick but
1. 12-47 (.203) Knicks
2. 13-47 (.217) 76ers
3. 13-46 (.220) Timberwolves
4. 16-43 (.271) Lakers
5. 19-42 (.311) Magic
6. 21-39 (.350) Nuggets
7. 21-37 (.362) Kings
Even though almost all these teams are in tank mode the Wolves are looking (as of now) as finishing in the top 5 worst records. Which, as we know, means they will have probably the 7th pick but
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I'm crazy, but I feel like Minnesota is much better than all of those teams (except for maybe Orlando).
I think a top 5 worst record is inevitable. Hard to see them gaining 3 games on a team, let alone the 5.5 or 6 it'll take to catch Orlando.
I think a top 5 worst record is inevitable. Hard to see them gaining 3 games on a team, let alone the 5.5 or 6 it'll take to catch Orlando.
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So we're going to give up on Bennett and go for one of those bigs in the draft?
OK.
OK.
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If you pinpoint one that is a certified stud why not?
To me (as always) you take best player available period. If that one plays the exact spot as Wiggins or Rubio then you can have internal conversations. If he's playing Pek's or Dieng's or Bennett's, etc then you don't even blink.
To me (as always) you take best player available period. If that one plays the exact spot as Wiggins or Rubio then you can have internal conversations. If he's playing Pek's or Dieng's or Bennett's, etc then you don't even blink.
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I'm crazy, but I feel like Minnesota is much better than all of those teams (except for maybe Orlando).
Yeah. Nevermind. Denver worked 'em.
Is it me or does Faried always seem to go bonkers when he plays Minnesota?
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Ugly last night
You lose on your own floor to a Denver team that had lost 12 of their last 13 games and was playing a back end of a back-to back.
Losses are fine to me, but this team just needs to move forward with a coach who can be successful in today's NBA.
Flip can go upstairs and do the front office gig. Please leave the court area, bring your kid with you, and don't come back.
You lose on your own floor to a Denver team that had lost 12 of their last 13 games and was playing a back end of a back-to back.
Losses are fine to me, but this team just needs to move forward with a coach who can be successful in today's NBA.
Flip can go upstairs and do the front office gig. Please leave the court area, bring your kid with you, and don't come back.
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JUSTIN HAMILTON!
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Young Payne with 16 points / 15 boards 
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Too bad bennett got injured right when Thad got traded, I was looking forward to him and Payne battling for minutes.
....Too bad bennett got injured right when Thad got traded, I was looking forward to him and Payne battling for minutes.
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It is, but my dude Payne is doing well. He needed the court time and he's showing lots of glimpses of the guy I thought he'd be out of MSU.
Hopefully this lights a fire under Bennett so he can come into camp next year ready to compete. I don't want Minnesota to give up on him.
Hopefully this lights a fire under Bennett so he can come into camp next year ready to compete. I don't want Minnesota to give up on him.
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I never thought Zach Lavine would score over 20 points in a game in his rookie season. I never thought Adriean Payne would have a 15-15 game in his rookie season.
I know he'll finish the season at 38 games, but it's incredible to look at Shabazz Muhammad's 3PT% at 39.2. He doesn't take many threes, but not as few as you'd think. Wiggins averages 1.7, Shabazz was at 1.3 until he was placed on the IR.
76-point outing against the Clippers. I mean, show something resembling an offense.
I know he'll finish the season at 38 games, but it's incredible to look at Shabazz Muhammad's 3PT% at 39.2. He doesn't take many threes, but not as few as you'd think. Wiggins averages 1.7, Shabazz was at 1.3 until he was placed on the IR.
76-point outing against the Clippers. I mean, show something resembling an offense.
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Hamilton can play some D!
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Payne uses way too much energy on uncontested shots. He needs to relax instead of over-pronunciating his shooting form.
I'd like to see Wiggins take over here.
I'd like to see Wiggins take over here.
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Only 10 from the ROY?
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1. Knicks 14-53
2. Timberwolves 14-52
3. 76ers 15-52
Thank you #ShvedGod
2. Timberwolves 14-52
3. 76ers 15-52
Thank you #ShvedGod
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The Knicks wow
Teams are in full tank mode now, resting players and trotting out bums for the race to the basement. Gonna be a real interesting final month of the season.
The Wolves are essentially going to be locked into the top four lottery seeding. Unless rules have been changed here is how the breakdown works for each slot:
Worst record in NBA: 25% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 4th pick
Second worst record in NBA: 20% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 5th pick
Third worst record in NBA: 15% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 6th pick
Fourth worst record in NBA: 12% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 7th pick
I noted all this because the Wolves have never moved up in the lottery and have constantly moved down. These are the team's worst case scenarios.
wowTeams are in full tank mode now, resting players and trotting out bums for the race to the basement. Gonna be a real interesting final month of the season.
The Wolves are essentially going to be locked into the top four lottery seeding. Unless rules have been changed here is how the breakdown works for each slot:
Worst record in NBA: 25% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 4th pick
Second worst record in NBA: 20% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 5th pick
Third worst record in NBA: 15% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 6th pick
Fourth worst record in NBA: 12% chance for first pick, cannot drop lower than 7th pick
I noted all this because the Wolves have never moved up in the lottery and have constantly moved down. These are the team's worst case scenarios.
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