The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- Cannonier, Imavov, Reyes, Rosas on NOW

[Cashflow]

Gane was the champ and Dana didn’t want to pay Francis. What exactly did y’all expect to happen?

 

[jayt1202]

Gane is legit.

Him and Aspinall need to fight at some point.

Outside of the JJ-Aspinall fight which appears destined to not happen this is probably the fight to make. Or Volkov rematch if he beats Gane.

 

[spiderjericho]

Gane was the champ and Dana didn’t want to pay Francis. What exactly did y’all expect to happen?

Gane wasn’t the champ lol. He lost to a hobbled Francis.

I’ll give him credit though. He gave Francis fits on the feet with his distance management and striking from the outside. Just wasn’t ready for Eric Nicksick exploiting the hole in Ferdinand’s camp.

Outside of the JJ-Aspinall fight which appears destined to not happen this is probably the fight to make. Or Volkov rematch if he beats Gane.

I agree with ya. Won’t lie. Won’t make me excited for “big” heavyweight fights.

 

[Cashflow]

Gane wasn’t the champ lol. He lost to a hobbled Francis.

I’ll give him credit though. He gave Francis fits on the feet with his distance management and striking from the outside. Just wasn’t ready for Eric Nicksick exploiting the hole in Ferdinand’s camp.

I agree with ya. Won’t lie. Won’t make me excited for “big” heavyweight fights.

Y’all are taking issue with Jon Jones’ recent opponents.

Who should he have faced with Dana not wanting to pay Francis?

 

[jayt1202]

I don't think anyone is arguing he shouldn't have fought Gane at the time with Francis' departure. It's that he's clearly "ducking" the guy who has claim to be the real HW champ. Now he's fighting an old washed HW and calling his shot at a LHW who in all likelihood wont be able to stop his takedowns.

 

[jayt1202]

Speaking of the current dialogue, just started listening to today's Craic pod. Really enjoy listening to Petesy with Chuck and having Shaheen is a nice bonus.

 

[spiderjericho]

I don't think anyone is arguing he shouldn't have fought Gane at the time with Francis' departure. It's that he's clearly "ducking" the guy who has claim to be the real HW champ. Now he's fighting an old washed HW and calling his shot at a LHW who in all likelihood wont be able to stop his takedowns.

^^^Thank You.

We respect Jon and everything he’s done in his career, despite all of the antics.

Even Dana can’t ignore Tom anymore lol. He knows the kid is the heir apparent to the baddest man on the planet title.

And no one really has interest in the MSG main event. We’ll watch it dubiously.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

DUCKING is crazy

If Tom had a legit resume, had legit names under his belt Jon would fight him and take that juice

But this dood's resume is thin AF (what's his biggest win?) he JUST GETTING STARTED in MMA so the timing just ain't there for them to match up.

Alex on the other hand has a crazy resume and is currently the hottest/most respect fighter on the roster right now

Jones wants THAT KIND OF SMOKE

Y'all just don't get it and that's ok.

Its not TOM it's his resume

Say Jon were to beat Tom....than doods are going to say he's not the GOAT until he beats Alex because Alex has fought and KO'd tougher competition than Tom

Its just a cycle that never ends man.

 

[spiderjericho]

DUCKING is crazy

If Tom had a legit resume, had legit names under his belt Jon would fight him and take that juice

But this dood's resume is thin AF (what's his biggest win?) he JUST GETTING STARTED in MMA so the timing just ain't there for them to match up.

Alex on the other hand has a crazy resume and is currently the hottest/most respect fighter on the roster right now

Jones wants THAT KIND OF SMOKE

Y'all just don't get it and that's ok.

Its not TOM it's his resume

Say Jon were to beat Tom....than doods are going to say he's not the GOAT until he beats Alex because Alex has fought and KO'd tougher competition than Tom

Its just a cycle that never ends man.

“Coronation, Starscream? This is bad comedy.”

Let’s be real. Say the quiet part out loud. Heavyweight does not have huge depth or big names.

Francis and Stipe are the last ones with a rub from the previous HW big names eg Werdum, Cain, Overeem, JDS, etc.

Blaydes, Pavlovich, Volkov, Gane, etc don’t have that resume.

It’s why Tom tried to insert himself to get the rub. Otherwise he’s cleaned out the division. Besides Gane, he’s beaten everyone in the top 10. He is the best HW in UFC. Francis is the lineal champion who has is trapped in PFellator.

 

[boxer15]

Y’all really believe Alex can’t land his fists of stone before Jon gets a takedown? Gane ain’t half the kickboxer that Alex is.

 

[jayt1202]

For the sake of not going in circles there is a decent One card tonight. One of the better HW's outside the UFC, Anatoly Malykhin goes against Reug Reug who I don't know much about but seems to be on the rise. You also have Rodtang, Adriano Moraes and Kade Ruotolo in his 2nd MMA fight. It's on Prime so I may checkout some of the fights later this evening but Prime's format is kinda lama how they don't break fights into individual videos. You have to start the card live or rewind/ff to find fights.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

Let’s be real. Say the quiet part out loud. Heavyweight does not have huge depth or big names.

Exactly why Jon picked Stipe

went for the biggest name & best resume available.

same thing TOM is doing with jones.

 

[spiderjericho]

 

[spiderjericho]

It’s fight day.

Toughest test for the Nightmare:




Prates killed the Leech.




Magny always been a dog and perennial gate keeper. His grappling could pose a challenge for Carlos.

 

[steevoo1]

If Jon let's a 42 year old firefighter who hasn't won a fight in more than 5 years, even see the 3rd round then he needs to just go ahead and retire. HW wouldn't be the division for him.

 

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[xbiker47]

Look at everyone Jon has beat in the last 5 years. Reyes, santos, Gane. None of those have aged well, and now adding stipe to the list who was sent to the shadow realm by Francis years ago when there’s a deserving interim champ everyone wants to see fight Jon.

 

[spiderjericho]

^^^Or take Turki’s $$$ and do the Riyad Heavyweight title fight with Francis.

This card had great momentum till the straw weight ladies.

 

[keko jones]

This fight’s moving in slow-mo. Without that last big shot, the De Ridder barely did a thing!

 

[spiderjericho]

Manon calling out Valentina.

Valentina indicating loser retires.

 

[spiderjericho]

 

[xbiker47]

^^^Or take Turki’s $$$ and do the Riyad Heavyweight title fight with Francis.

This card had great momentum till the straw weight ladies.

Just wild to me the story line they are selling with this jon/stipe fight. Dana working overtime to sell these wolf tickets