THE OFFICIAL 2012 BOSTON RED SOX SEASON THREAD - (1-3) Red Sox @ Blue Jays - FIRST WIN!!!

[laflech44]

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Originally Posted by koolbarbone

Still proud of the team though. They had heart and fought the best they could through injuries and underwhelming performances.

you're kidding, right?

did you watch this team at all during september? heart and fight? you must have been watching the rays, cause i know you weren't watching us play. you should get by the O's on heart and fight alone. we went 1-7? disgusting. you should be able to win 10 games in a month on heart and fight alone. we won 5?

and im not saying anyone needs to fired or an overhaul is needed...but they just did not show up in september. there is NOTHING to be proud about regarding the last month of baseball that we just played.

agreed. completely pathetic. 
90% of the team looked like they didn't care. "nah we'll be good tomorrow" just waiting for this magical turnaround. then we finally got eliminated and they seemed shocked.

something like 24 errors in 24 games, starting pitching that averaged 4 innings and a 7 ERA. bullpen (bard especially) blew. everything was awful. granted they were unlucky, but they also sucked and certainly showed 0 heart.

they're all just SO laid back and no personality, except for pedroia, ortiz, and youk. the rest are JD drew clones

 

[bjm5295]

heart?

a few of them have heart, but the majority of the team does not.

jacoby is still the MVP in my book. for the most part, he performed to the top of HIS ability.

 

[bjm5295]

heart?

a few of them have heart, but the majority of the team does not.

jacoby is still the MVP in my book. for the most part, he performed to the top of HIS ability.

 

[cosmiccanon]

 @ the thought of Francona being fired.
Francona is a top 3 manager, along w/ Gradenhire and Maddon.

If he actually does get fired, where will Terry go?

Cubs 

 White Sox 

 

[cosmiccanon]

 @ the thought of Francona being fired.
Francona is a top 3 manager, along w/ Gradenhire and Maddon.

If he actually does get fired, where will Terry go?

Cubs 

 White Sox 

 

[IATT]

doesn't the red sox collapse show how important pitching is.. and thus how stupid it is that ppl say they (pitchers) don't deserve the MVP?


i mean how many examples do we have of teams winning world series titles based off of the strength of their pitching alone

 

[IATT]

doesn't the red sox collapse show how important pitching is.. and thus how stupid it is that ppl say they (pitchers) don't deserve the MVP?


i mean how many examples do we have of teams winning world series titles based off of the strength of their pitching alone

 

[laflech44]

Originally Posted by CosmicCanon

 @ the thought of Francona being fired.
Francona is a top 3 manager, along w/ Gradenhire and Maddon.

If he actually does get fired, where will Terry go?

Cubs 

 White Sox 

i just don't see who they could bring in that would be an upgrade anyways
the only knocks against terry are he keeps pitchers in a pitch too long (consistently), and he's too laid back sometimes. clearly the team needed some sort of spark. but i blame the players. 

 

[laflech44]

Originally Posted by CosmicCanon

 @ the thought of Francona being fired.
Francona is a top 3 manager, along w/ Gradenhire and Maddon.

If he actually does get fired, where will Terry go?

Cubs 

 White Sox 

i just don't see who they could bring in that would be an upgrade anyways
the only knocks against terry are he keeps pitchers in a pitch too long (consistently), and he's too laid back sometimes. clearly the team needed some sort of spark. but i blame the players. 

 

[bkmac]

Not for nothing, but if my memory serves me correctly, Crawford had the "Oh well, @@%! it" look on his face when he missed the catch/threw it in to home.

Bum. Glad we kept Gardner.

 

[bkmac]

Not for nothing, but if my memory serves me correctly, Crawford had the "Oh well, @@%! it" look on his face when he missed the catch/threw it in to home.

Bum. Glad we kept Gardner.

 

[koolbarbone]

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Originally Posted by koolbarbone

Still proud of the team though. They had heart and fought the best they could through injuries and underwhelming performances.

you're kidding, right?

did you watch this team at all during september? heart and fight? you must have been watching the rays, cause i know you weren't watching us play. you should get by the O's on heart and fight alone. we went 1-7? disgusting. you should be able to win 10 games in a month on heart and fight alone. we won 5?

and im not saying anyone needs to fired or an overhaul is needed...but they just did not show up in september. there is NOTHING to be proud about regarding the last month of baseball that we just played.

Coming back from the hole that the team started off in = heart.

Battling injuries to stay on top the division = heart.

Falling apart in September = disappointment. Obviously there are significant issues to deal with but the perception of this collapse is overblown. It's very disappointing, but comparing it to 1986 or 2003 is ridiculous.

 

[koolbarbone]

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

Originally Posted by koolbarbone

Still proud of the team though. They had heart and fought the best they could through injuries and underwhelming performances.

you're kidding, right?

did you watch this team at all during september? heart and fight? you must have been watching the rays, cause i know you weren't watching us play. you should get by the O's on heart and fight alone. we went 1-7? disgusting. you should be able to win 10 games in a month on heart and fight alone. we won 5?

and im not saying anyone needs to fired or an overhaul is needed...but they just did not show up in september. there is NOTHING to be proud about regarding the last month of baseball that we just played.

Coming back from the hole that the team started off in = heart.

Battling injuries to stay on top the division = heart.

Falling apart in September = disappointment. Obviously there are significant issues to deal with but the perception of this collapse is overblown. It's very disappointing, but comparing it to 1986 or 2003 is ridiculous.

 

[DeadsetAce]

THERE IS A GOD!!!!

Updated: October 25, 2011, 4:40 PM ET

[h2]John Lackey to have elbow surgery[/h2]

ESPNBoston.com

Boston Red Sox pitcher John Lackey will have Tommy John surgery on his right elbow, new general manager Ben Cherington announced at his introductory news conference Tuesday, essentially ending the starter's 2012 season before it begins.

"He knows he's a much better pitcher than he showed in 2011," Cherington said. "We look forward to having him as part of the staff, hopefully in 2013."

[h4]More On The Red Sox[/h4]

Gordon Edes and the rest of the ESPNBoston.com team have the Red Sox covered for you. Blog

Lackey had the worst season of his career, going 12-12 with a 6.41 ERA in the second year of a five-year, $82.5 million deal.

Red Sox starters went 4-13 with a 7.08 ERA down the stretch as the Red Sox blew a nine-game lead in the wild-card race.

Lackey then became the center of controversy when the Boston Globe reported that he, Jon Lester and Josh Beckett drank beer, ate fried chicken and played video games in the Red Sox clubhouse on their off-days.

Cherington defended the pitcher, though.

"John Lackey pitched through circumstances this year that not everyone in this room could understand," Cherington said, adding that Lackey was dealing with on-field and off-field issues last season.

Cherington went through most of his news conference before dropping the Lackey bombshell. He had just said that the Red Sox were strong at the top of their rotation.

"We need to build some pitching depth," Cherington said. "Most likely we'll do that through some good, creative, perhaps buy-low acquisitions. We're going to do our diligence on every available player, but I think I need to hit on some pitchers this offseason, much as we hit on Alfredo Aceves last offseason."

Cherington said that noted California surgeon Dr. Lewis Yocum will perform the procedure, but he did not name a date.

 

[DeadsetAce]

THERE IS A GOD!!!!

Updated: October 25, 2011, 4:40 PM ET

[h2]John Lackey to have elbow surgery[/h2]

ESPNBoston.com

Boston Red Sox pitcher John Lackey will have Tommy John surgery on his right elbow, new general manager Ben Cherington announced at his introductory news conference Tuesday, essentially ending the starter's 2012 season before it begins.

"He knows he's a much better pitcher than he showed in 2011," Cherington said. "We look forward to having him as part of the staff, hopefully in 2013."

[h4]More On The Red Sox[/h4]

Gordon Edes and the rest of the ESPNBoston.com team have the Red Sox covered for you. Blog

Lackey had the worst season of his career, going 12-12 with a 6.41 ERA in the second year of a five-year, $82.5 million deal.

Red Sox starters went 4-13 with a 7.08 ERA down the stretch as the Red Sox blew a nine-game lead in the wild-card race.

Lackey then became the center of controversy when the Boston Globe reported that he, Jon Lester and Josh Beckett drank beer, ate fried chicken and played video games in the Red Sox clubhouse on their off-days.

Cherington defended the pitcher, though.

"John Lackey pitched through circumstances this year that not everyone in this room could understand," Cherington said, adding that Lackey was dealing with on-field and off-field issues last season.

Cherington went through most of his news conference before dropping the Lackey bombshell. He had just said that the Red Sox were strong at the top of their rotation.

"We need to build some pitching depth," Cherington said. "Most likely we'll do that through some good, creative, perhaps buy-low acquisitions. We're going to do our diligence on every available player, but I think I need to hit on some pitchers this offseason, much as we hit on Alfredo Aceves last offseason."

Cherington said that noted California surgeon Dr. Lewis Yocum will perform the procedure, but he did not name a date.

 

[finallyfamous]

damn what a thread bump

 

[finallyfamous]

damn what a thread bump

 

[DeadsetAce]

looks like this is our guy....

1) manager - check
2) david ortiz
3) back end of the rotation
4) closer
5) middle relief
6) RF
7) dump youkilis

 

[DeadsetAce]

looks like this is our guy....

1) manager - check
2) david ortiz
3) back end of the rotation
4) closer
5) middle relief
6) RF
7) dump youkilis

 

[bjm5295]

and the worst manager/coach hiring process in the history of sports comes to an end..

with the guy we knew it was going to be for weeks. [John Henry] Larry Luchino runs... the Red Sox... [/John Henry]

 

[bjm5295]

and the worst manager/coach hiring process in the history of sports comes to an end..

with the guy we knew it was going to be for weeks. [John Henry] Larry Luchino runs... the Red Sox... [/John Henry]

 

[DeadsetAce]

finally we win a game!

we can finally revive this thread

 

[DeadsetAce]

finally we win a game!

we can finally revive this thread