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Steelers kept a rapist.
I say we keep Rat. It will hurt us pretty badly cap wise to cut him.
I say we keep Rat. It will hurt us pretty badly cap wise to cut him.
THE OFFICIAL 2024 - 2025 DALLAS COWBOYS SEASON THREAD || 4-7 Next Game 11/28 vs. Giants Vol. Thanksgiving
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And that's the problem my friend: Dallas does NOT draft well. Our GM doesn't know football. That means we have to take prospects that are almost "guranteed" to be studs because we don't have the scouting department that's competent enough to seek talent in the later rounds. This is why I never have a problem with the Cowboys moving up. How many picks from our 2009 draft are still on the roster? I count 1 (John Phillips) who will most likely be released this year.
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smh
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lol..here we go with the jerry doesnt know football talk...
the way i see it...jerry understands football very well, and hes also a businessman...he realizes that the teams that draft well, groom their players usually go in cycles of good/bad...
were the dallas cowboys, nobody wants to see us grooming no name draft guys...they want us competing every single year...and thats exactly what jerry puts on the field..
for better or worse(obviously the latter lately), jerry STACKS this team with talent every season...were the cowboys, were not supposed to rebuild...were supposed to reload...word to the yankees, word to the lakers...
not saying your wrong, but i think jerry knows what hes doing more than people give him credit for...dude has been (winning) at football all his life...he won at the player level..won at the gm and owner level...you gotta know football bro...
could he hire someone like cowher or gruden and be hands off? yea...it hasnt came to that because were always competitve.
jay ratliff
miles austin
cole beasley
dwayne harris
tony romo
james hannah
doug free
sean lissemore
josh brent
eric walden
scandrick
tashard choice
all 4th round and later or undrafted players that made a name for themselves..most of them earned a 2nd huge contract...anytime a 4th rounder or above makes an impact, leet alone starts...thats scouting bro..thats jerry b
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Well the Yankees did best when they got players through the farm system rather than constantly trading young players for proven stars. And no, the Cowboys are far from the Lakers and REALLY far from the Yankees. Didn't come into the thread to start anything but that offends me as a Yankee fan.
I also don't think it's correct thy Jerry stacks the team with talent- it seems that he pays way too much attention to flashy skill positions while failing to address the lines and what's really important. I mean, IMO wide receiver (especially getting a second star) is one of the last positions you should emphasize when building a contender, but it seems Iike Jerry obsesses over it.
That list of late-drafted guys is fairly nice.
I also don't think it's correct thy Jerry stacks the team with talent- it seems that he pays way too much attention to flashy skill positions while failing to address the lines and what's really important. I mean, IMO wide receiver (especially getting a second star) is one of the last positions you should emphasize when building a contender, but it seems Iike Jerry obsesses over it.
That list of late-drafted guys is fairly nice.
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one has a dollar for dollar fee for going over the soft cap the other has no salary cap...vs the nfl which has a hard cap, meaning you cant exceed that number like the other two...
of course the cowboys dont have the success the yankees and lakers do...youll never hear me argue that they do...
they do have the relevancy and interest every year...every year the media says the cowboys have a shot...for varying reasons, some you mentioned with the 'flashy' players...but the bottom line is, jerry makes this team competitive every year...
every season he brings in the talent, makes the changes that makes us favorites...of course thats a gift and a curse, with our recent failures...
but yes, just like the yankees, and exactly like the lakers...mr jones brings in enough new faces, mixed with some 'flashy' signings and there always relevant/competitive...never rebuilding...
give jerry a dollar for dollar soft cap, hed abuse it just the buss family, just like the steinbreinners... given the circumstances, he's the closest thing in football...maybe the patriots
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We'll have to agree to disagree I guess.
Jerry has kept the Cowboys relevant, despite our 17 years of mediocrity. Dallas once again shattered the TV ratings with the highested rated games this season despite finishing 8-8.
Jerry may have had the GM name in title, but those teams construed in the 90s were Jimmy's. I feel like since Jimmy left, he's been trying to prove that he's been the brains behind everything. Jerry is the reason for this countryclub atmosphere. You have Jason Hatcher going on radiostations that the Cowboys have the roster to "be in the SB." We can't even make the playoffs, much less win two-three games to get to the big dance. But again, thats due to the countryclub atmosphere he has created. We lucked out with one ring in 95 with Switzer thanks to the 49ers getthing thrashed by GB in the divisional round.
Jerry has kept the Cowboys relevant, despite our 17 years of mediocrity. Dallas once again shattered the TV ratings with the highested rated games this season despite finishing 8-8.
Jerry may have had the GM name in title, but those teams construed in the 90s were Jimmy's. I feel like since Jimmy left, he's been trying to prove that he's been the brains behind everything. Jerry is the reason for this countryclub atmosphere. You have Jason Hatcher going on radiostations that the Cowboys have the roster to "be in the SB." We can't even make the playoffs, much less win two-three games to get to the big dance. But again, thats due to the countryclub atmosphere he has created. We lucked out with one ring in 95 with Switzer thanks to the 49ers getthing thrashed by GB in the divisional round.
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Not a Cowboys fan obviously, but I agree here. Yeah, he's kept you relevant... As in he's a really good PR guy. From a football perspective the Cowboys have not been relevant, they've been consistently average or below-average.
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Jerry use to play football?
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It's gonna be the same ol ish with Garett nothing's gonna change bring in GRUDEN!!!!
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let Garrett rock. We need continuity on this team. I feel a lil better about the defense with the Marinelli hiring. Makes it more like a partnership with him and Kiffin and he is no sloutch if he has to take over for Kiffin later down the road. they still should of held off on firing rob. Hopefully we will start taking the ball away which will help us tremendously! the bears were one of the best taking the ball away last year as we witnessed ourselves.
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Warmack is worthy of trying to trade up... Everyone is saying he is Day 1 Ready for the NFL...
Coop would be good. But Warmack and Tyron on the left side would be
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that would make that side so filthy...id love to trade up to get him for a late rounder...Warmack is worthy of trying to trade up... Everyone is saying he is Day 1 Ready for the NFL...
Coop would be good. But Warmack and Tyron on the left side would be
we need early round picks...alot of oline depth, there will be some steals...
our oline needs adressing across the board..everyone can/should be upgraded, included free
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Idk how Marinelli makes a better coach than rob Ryan were talking about the same coach from Detroit hell noooo! Listen Garett ain't a HEAD COACH it's as simple as that
Garrett isn't the bonehead throwing interceptions to the other team though. Doesn't matter who the coach is, the coach is not the problem.
They had Parcells, the bonehead couldn't make a routine hold for the placekicker in the Seattle game.
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Romo needs to mange games and not try to be the star get a good line let murray run and playaction
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If we don't draft DJ Fluker, we will WEEP/REAP. Guy is the perfet RT for us. He has Erik Williams/Larry Allen written all over him. That tape does not LIE! Hindsight is 20/20 but, we should've never released leonard davis, kept his butt at one of the guard positions. Tyron is only going to get better. Pair him with Fluker for the next 10-12 years. Two young, bookend, athletic Tackles, with aggressive skill sets. Look at San Francisco's O-Line. 3 first rounders, Staley, Iupati, Davis. Nuff said (And Alex boone, who was a blue chip prospect and was thought to be a 1st round pick, once he entered the NFL). If we don't draft Fluker, he's going elsewhere, and will be a pro bowler for YEARS.
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If Cowboys release Free they open up $7mil in cap... Keep him and he cost $10 mil... Pretty much have to release him..
Also Mel Kiper's latest draft board has Chance Warmack dropping all the way to 18 to us.. God please let that happen..
Tyron - Warmack - Cook - ??? - Parnell that left side would be deadly.
Also Mel Kiper's latest draft board has Chance Warmack dropping all the way to 18 to us.. God please let that happen..
Tyron - Warmack - Cook - ??? - Parnell that left side would be deadly.
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They better not release miles Austin unless they get an upgrade at that spot!
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i think miles is safe...doug free and ratliff should be concerned tho...
and ive seen mocks that have warmack coming to us, also saw some with cooper (G from UNC) falling to us...so either way its looking like well get good value in the 1st round...
and i pray pray pray ryan cook nd jeremy parnell arent our options to replace costa and free...clear downgrades
and ive seen mocks that have warmack coming to us, also saw some with cooper (G from UNC) falling to us...so either way its looking like well get good value in the 1st round...
and i pray pray pray ryan cook nd jeremy parnell arent our options to replace costa and free...clear downgrades
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That's who we have at the depth chart... Not sure that stands..
But Cook was decent last year.. I think we'd be fine with him..... Parnell probably because he knows the system, but I agree that the right side would be weak.
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you can replace a WR easy. and cowboys have done a good job of finding WR. we wont miss miles much
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Seems that the Cowboys plan on bringing Ratliff back.
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its no way we can have a totally revamped line next year, and upgrade while doing so..so somebody (between cook,costa,bernadue,parnell)..possibly multiple somebodies...for bernadeu to be such a huge guy, he gets manhandled way too often..costa nd parnell would be my choices to return...
@bigmike23 - i dont think its as easy as you think man...we hit a lick with laurent, hopefully dwayne harris continues to blossom...but i think keving ogletree and his lack of progression proves that it aint as easy as it looks to get quality receivers...dude has been gifted the #3 wr job and made no improvement...still the same silly mistakes...
@ackdaquick - you gotta take what they say with a grain of salt...of course they gotta stroke the players ego, include him in future plans, in case he actually returns..i for one think ratliff is the 2nd worse contract after frees...wouldnt surprise me one bit to see him cut...dude stats decrease every season..cant stay healthy..
rosters are just a headache until after the draft..nobody will show their hand..everyone gives out half truths..
@bigmike23 - i dont think its as easy as you think man...we hit a lick with laurent, hopefully dwayne harris continues to blossom...but i think keving ogletree and his lack of progression proves that it aint as easy as it looks to get quality receivers...dude has been gifted the #3 wr job and made no improvement...still the same silly mistakes...
@ackdaquick - you gotta take what they say with a grain of salt...of course they gotta stroke the players ego, include him in future plans, in case he actually returns..i for one think ratliff is the 2nd worse contract after frees...wouldnt surprise me one bit to see him cut...dude stats decrease every season..cant stay healthy..
rosters are just a headache until after the draft..nobody will show their hand..everyone gives out half truths..
