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**..:The Official Jewelry Thread Vol. 11: You get a Jesus piece! You get a Jesus piece! Everybody gets a Jesus piece:..**
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Ya cause they are the most popular right now. Reminds me of when hurricane sandy was coming for New york and stores were raising the price of generators, batteries and gas.i know we just had a dispute lol but I've noticed to on Angels and jesus pieces the markup is absolutely outrageous. Especially the "iced out" that are covered in worthless diamond chips. I've been looking for a small to medium sized angel and all I can find is Angels at around 1k that weigh like 9 gramsWould I be right thinking that nobody pays $30-something per gram on a Jesus piece in 14 carat, if you divide the $$$ paid by the weight on the actual piece, it works out your paying a pretty hefty premium for the mold, labour and jeweler (brand) on top, of course you also have to factor in the price of diamonds coming with that crazy mark up, especially on the ones in the higher end bracket of the three C's, with little to no resale value at the end of it. So all in all with Jesus pieces and religion in general.. It seems, You have to pay to pray
Say for example
If you went to
Jacob and co
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Icebox
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If and co
Would you be able to pay around the going rate for gold in whichever purity you decided to go with per gram on the piece and then add on to the bill your diamond selection, labour etc and end up anywhere near that market value per gram figure.
Because from my calculations and the prices I've seen out there, it's way over. or am I missing something?
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That's what's up, I seen pictures of your if&co being scrapped out... Was that from icebox as well? In my opinion icebox does the best job on their Jesus pieces for full and medium sized
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Im from the area as well. You ever go see buddy at A1 on Commercial Drive for jewels
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No never did, do they have a good selection or is it all #1 mom pendants ?
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lol.. he has some good stuff, does custom work and has some nice watches - Hublot, AP, Breitling etc.
Sticker price is high but he negotiates.
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Repped, I'm over it, I apologise if I rubbed you up the wrong way, anyhoo I know if you are on the same page as me on this one, then I defintely don't have to second guess myself, we right on the button on this one man. Something's not right, but I suppose if they got people lining up to pay these prices, nothing will change, mark ups will remain. If they got you by the balls, expect to get squeezed
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Im gonna have to check it out. Iv'e been to a couple places in Burnaby awhile ago but there wasn't much.
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its all good I apologize myself. I think I was bored lol. But yea it's impossble find decent charms/pendants for decent prices.
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I think if these 3D printers really continue to evolve over the next decade, this could be a game changer, did you see the guy on the tube print the AR lower? It's an ever changing world, a fast changing world, what was once dreams yesterday is becoming reality tomorrow, if the 3DP did manage to cross over into the jewelery market, it would open the flood gates, creating a whole new wave of quality competition and along with compitition+availability down comes prices, maybe not.. Who knows it would definitely take out the skill needed and labour factor though
minus the stone setting of course.
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Just because you can print it doesn't mean you can just cast it. It's a difference in materials and a completely different casting process.
Also as far as gold pricing is concerned you also have to take into consideration if they are using pure gold during casting or are they using melted scrap. If using pure gold (which is proper and will prevent porosity), what metals are they mixing with. That is the difference between good gold and cheap gold.
Also as far as gold pricing is concerned you also have to take into consideration if they are using pure gold during casting or are they using melted scrap. If using pure gold (which is proper and will prevent porosity), what metals are they mixing with. That is the difference between good gold and cheap gold.
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3D printers will change the game for many industries. Jewelry is one of them. I liken the whole jesus and angel pricing to boutique jewelry like cartier or tiffany, you pay for the hallmark. A love bracelet costs 4600usd, a love ring costs 1200usd. The two combined contain about 1500usd worth of 18kt gold, so 4200 for mold/cast/clean/polish and rhodium. Any jeweler can make a replica in 18kt for a 1/4 the price
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What do you guys base your per gram price on? I was recently qouted under 25 a gram on a 160g pre-made by machine 14kt Miami Cuban. But I paid close to 60 a gram on a piece(same jeweler) I had made in 18kt after seeing all costs. Wax mold was 30$, casting was almost 100$ and final polish/rhodium was another 100$(even though the polisher removed 1.5 grams from casting weight) making my final total almost 60 a gram on 15 grams 18kt
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as they progress and specialist companies get involved, it's a matter oftime before your putting a premixed blank of whatever kt gold into a printer and outcomes a jesus, I'm sure atleast with wax molds it will help time wise and do things unable to be done by hand.
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And it's only a matter of time until we get flying cars.. doesn't mean they will be perfected anytime soon.
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Flying car not yet autonomous car within 10yrs.
Look at what a five axis CNC can cut out of aluminum. I think I saw somewhere IFANDCO CNC cut a gold bezel for YM2. So why is this so far fetched to you? I'm sure it will still need to be cleaned up by hand, but I don't think it's that far off. Now will it be accepted by jewelers is smtg different. Same with people accepting the self driving car.
Look at what a five axis CNC can cut out of aluminum. I think I saw somewhere IFANDCO CNC cut a gold bezel for YM2. So why is this so far fetched to you? I'm sure it will still need to be cleaned up by hand, but I don't think it's that far off. Now will it be accepted by jewelers is smtg different. Same with people accepting the self driving car.
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can you comment on thisI don't post much, but when I do i try to post stuff that is useful and will help others. I recently went out on a limb and purchased a fully iced baby kufi jesus piece from @diamondcity
and I just wanted to share my experience with fellow members and those who may be in the market or are considering purchasing from him. The entire process he kept me updated with pics from start to finish and the customer service was fantastic. I had it tested and appraised yesterday and everything was on point and well done. It tested at 14k and the stones were all exactly what he said they would be. I also want to point out that my baby weighs almost 40g of 14k gold and the price absolutely blows everyone else i shopped around with out of the water. IF&co weighs what? 25 to 30 grams? and literally would have cost twice as much. Overall i could not be happier with my purchase and i would seriously recommend anyone in the market for a nice jesus piece to talk to @diamondcity
and see if they can help you out or if anyone has any questions about my piece or my experience i would be glad to answer questions. I will be a repeat customer without a doubt. pics below....
14k 7mm 115gram cuban from daniels , 14k 38.4grams 2.56ct SI1 G-H baby kufi from @diamondcity
The pics really dont do it justice!
The jeweler, diamondcity, sold this pendant as new and when you actually open the pictures and view them at full resolution, Jesus looks like a burn victim with half of his face melting off. Is this the result of a poor cast or poor gold quality or both?
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There are already autonomous cars but they will not be on the road within 10 years... and this is coming from close friends who are chief engineers at Toyota, Honda, and Ford. Within 50 years there might be the technology to let full autonomous cars take over. Just because the technology does exist does not make the older tech inferior.
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We also have a full 4 axis mill that we use to carve wax via a CAD program but milling something out of a block is different than growing it. I
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My Brain hurts trying to read through all these post
To find out Info on jewelry and who to talk to get prices on 1of1 pieces
Wish me luck. I'm 5 pages deep
To find out Info on jewelry and who to talk to get prices on 1of1 pieces
Wish me luck. I'm 5 pages deep
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I agree to disagree on the car thing, the big automakers don't like change, they would resist. Private sector with backing from companies like google/tesla will be the ones to get it done. When it comes to the jewels you know better than me what the trends are in jewelry making.
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golden sun, if and co, icebox, for custom pieces, I would call all Three, emails a toss up and see what each quotes and offers.
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The Google car is already a thing... but it also has camera's everywhere. I have seen it in person as I have a few friends that work for Car and Driver. Although the technology is in its infancy, it still has to improve and then it still has to be approved by the government. They aren't just going to let people go out on auto-pilot without years and years of solid technology.10 years, no.... 20, 30, 40 years... yes.
PS- Believe it or not this was a 4 hour long conversation I had with my friends a few months back. All the big manufacturer's already have the technology but it is in its infancy.
