The Official NBA Season Thread: Fries Discourse | Mavs vs Jazz

[elpablo21]

I can't get with that. Level of play combined with popularity makes you a superstar. What the public thinks definitely plays a role. That's who's buying tickets and merch. A.I was a superstar after like his Rookie year. That's the impact Ja has had.

To each their own. I just like to base it off level of play and talent on the court. Shoe deals and tiktok views doesnt impact how I see a superstar

Ja is close but he isn't with those guys based off that. Tatum is close as well but not enough (yet)

But I don't think there's anything wrong adding the off the court stuff at all though if that's how you define a superstar. We all got a different criteria

Edit: I should also clarify someone like Joker's popularity is nothing here in the states* but globally its probably different.

 

[JD617]

Popularity aside, Embiid has been a top 3-4 (regular season) player the past few years. Ja isn't on that level.

 

[nelson999]

Mans just got a signature shoe but he ain’t a superstar

unearned

 

[nelson999]

Ja is close but he isn't with those guys based off that. Tatum is close as well but not enough (yet)

Tatum absolutely belongs in a tier above Ja

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Popularity clearly wasn't in the initial conversation but alright

Is George, Kyrie, Dame etc. in the top tier then too

 

[Maximus Meridius]

To each their own. I just like to base it off level of play and talent on the court. Shoe deals and tiktok views doesnt impact how I see a superstar

Ja is close but he isn't with those guys based off that. Tatum is close as well but not enough (yet)

But I don't think there's anything wrong adding the off the court stuff at all though if that's how you define a superstar. We all got a different criteria

Edit: I should also clarify someone like Joker's popularity is nothing here in the states* but globally its probably different.

Let's be clear I ain't say nothing about TikTok views and social media. That's y'all.

Who people show up to see, who people want to watch. Who's style of play kids are copying and buying their jerseys and your influence plays a role in somebody being a superstar. Of course talent and on the court matters.

Embiid hasn't done more on the court than Ja so I don't know how that works. Tatum has done more on the court than Embiid. Since y'all brought it up Embiid has been more the talk of social media than over the years than Ja and Tatum without going further.

 

[elpablo21]

Embiid hasn't done more on the court than Ja so I don't know how that works. Tatum has done more on the court than Embiid. Since y'all brought it up Embiid has been more the talk of social media than over the years than Ja and Tatum without going further.

Please elaborate because I know you will bring up team success (which Ja hasnt). What else makes those two better players than Embiid?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Embiid hasn't done more on the court than Ja so I don't know how that works.

More All NBAs. All Defensive Teams. He's just been an elite player for longer than Ja

He's has having MVP type seasons b2b.

Embiid was also the scoring champ last season

Embiid is 4x All NBA
Ja is 1x

Come on man Ja can get there but Embiid has clearly done more on the court

 

[VARNELL HILL]

The biggest two notches on Ja's belt in a accolade vs accolade discussion is one all-NBA team and 2 all star appearances.

Embiid has 6 all stars, 4 all-nba teams, 3 all-defensive teams and a scoring title. Why are we talking about this?

 

[dacomeup]

Embiid hasn't done more on the court than Ja so I don't know how that works.

HUH

 

[amitt5504]

Lemme know when Ja has a 59-11-8-7 game

 

[nelson999]

Ja is in the same tier as guys like Donovan Mitchell, Fox, Trae, SGA, Lillard, idk just thinking of some off the top of my head. Not superstar tier with KD, Curry, LeBron, Doncic, etc

 

[noblekane]

jesus and i thought yall betting on video games was bad

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Please elaborate because I know you will bring up team success (which Ja hasnt). What else makes those two better players than Embiid?

So on the court matters but team success don't? All Embiid has on them is he's been in the league longer.

 

[elpablo21]

Like I get the Tatum argument. I wouldn't even push back on that

Come on man Ja can get there but Embiid has clearly done more on the court

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Ja is in the same tier as guys like Donovan Mitchell, Fox, Trae, SGA, Lillard, idk just thinking of some off the top of my head. Not superstar tier with KD, Curry, LeBron, Doncic, etc

Fox ain't even made a playoff yet while being in the league longer. I swear it must be 2 NBA's coming in this thread.

 

[elpablo21]

So on the court matters but team success don't? All Embiid has on them is he's been in the league longer.

Never said it didn't matter I asked what else? that isn't the end all be all

And Being in the league longer and playing at a higher level matters

Cmon man You don't become a superstar overnight.

Playing at high levels for consecutive years is a huge part of becoming a superstar

 

[lawdog1]

Is KD playing tomorrow against the Bucks?

 

[nelson999]

Fox ain't even made a playoff yet while being in the league longer. I swear it must be 2 NBA's coming in this thread.

if you only watch like 1 or 2 teams play, just say so

 

[amitt5504]

Send Stringer back to Philly

 

[picasso swerve]

Fox ain't even made a playoff yet while being in the league longer. I swear it must be 2 NBA's coming in this thread.

You being selective with what you reply to fam. Address the post with Embiids accolades vs Ja's pls.

 

[elpablo21]

Is KD playing tomorrow against the Bucks?

Looks like Wednesday is the day for the debut

Windy said Sunday was possible but everyone else said Wednesday (Shams and locals)

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Miami is not serious

 

[reconic supreme]

randle in da zone bruh

#KnicksTape

 

[pmatic]

Miami getting housed again. Woof.