The Official NBA Season Thread: Fries Discourse | Mavs vs Jazz

[nick.]

osh kosh bosh would you rather have 50K or dinner with Jay Z?

my instinct is to say 50k.

but.

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[osh kosh bosh]

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it's almost as if the ability to reasons and deduce is what separates us from the animals.

 

[storm2006]

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The guy who is saying he would leave $50MM on the table for $100MM and also previously argued that slavery was beneficial thinks that he would form a lasting connection, business or otherwise, with Jay-Z over the course of a meal.

You can’t make this up.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

The guy who is saying he would leave $50MM on the table for $100MM and also previously argued that slavery was beneficial

What’s the back story on this?

 

[lovehateself]

Me about to to turn down this promotion next week

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Much needed but just gonna be 4K of sadness

 

[storm2006]

What’s the back story on this?

You know it’s about to go down anytime Investigative Van Goat asks for a backstory

 

[RustyShackleford]

hmm interesting, If I had to bet I think there would be almost no correlation.


I think most of the happiness would be derived from the status, or respect money is proxy for in the NBA.
but being able to buy a bit bigger house, or a slightly bigger boat, whatever increased utility you get from extra money I think would be basically nothing.

So being an NBA is no different than having a white collar job one second. (as far as money and happiness)

And they are unique the other (as far as a championship providing the same happiness as working a fulfilling full time job)

-One of the reasons I find the money thing with NBA players not fitting neatly with the research you used is because of the uniqueness of being an NBA player.

NBA salaries are public knowledge. Someone that takes a 50% paycut to be on a team will get to see players of equal or even lesser value get paid more than them. 50 million over 10-12 years career is a ton of money to the average person. But an NBA player could blow through that money given a certain lifestyle. If it was impossible to do, then their wouldn't be documentaries about athletes going broke. Or they wouldn't have to tell dudes "lockout is coming, save your checks".

50 million vs 100 million over a long career means minding your lifestyle and spending in some areas. While seeing people just as good or not as good as you get paid more.

Yes someone can have a mansion, luxury cars, designer clothes and eat at high end places. But taking that paycut might mean no PJ, not big car collection, no insane Jewelry collection, no estate, no helping every family member, a limit on support staff you can hire. Which by itself would be no big deal, but you have to watch you teammate have those things you willing put out of reach.

To me, it seems being in the NBA, and how NBA players spend their money, is unique to the white collar person.

Isn't the average millionaire in their 50s? I would think those decades might play a part too.

I don't know, I just don't think it is easy as "Read a paper on research....it applies to every NBA player".

I feel not getting paid your full market value is something that has the potential to make players unhappy.

-Second, you talk about the dimishining returns of money, what about championships.

One chip is supposed to keep dudes happy for an entire career? I find that hard to believe. To me the value of a chip to a player is higher for people closer to the end of their career, especially for those dudes that already cashed out and have zero chips. And it wears off over time, especially for younger players.

Like if a player took a pay cut to play on a championship team, and wins one, and say they are extension eligible. We really expect them to say "I'll take another pay cut, to be happier with another championship" or are they gonna be like "it is time to get paid". By your theory, they would sign up for another paycut. I would guess if we did an experiment on this, more people would want the money if they previously took a large paycut to win a chip.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

So being an NBA is no different than having a white collar job one second. (as far as money and happiness)

And they are unique the other (as far as a championship providing the same happiness as working a fulfilling full time job)

-One of the reasons I find the money thing with NBA players not fitting neatly with the research you used is because of the uniqueness of being an NBA player.

NBA salaries are public knowledge. Someone that takes a 50% paycut to be on a team will get to see players of equal or even lesser value get paid more than them. 50 million over 10-12 years career is a ton of money to the average person. But an NBA player could blow through that money given a certain lifestyle. If it was impossible to do, then their wouldn't be documentaries about athletes going broke. Or they wouldn't have to tell dudes "lockout is coming, save your checks".

50 million vs 100 million over a long career means minding your lifestyle and spending in some areas. While seeing people just as good or not as good as you get paid more.

Yes someone can have a mansion, luxury cars, designer clothes and eat at high end places. But taking that paycut might mean no PJ, not big car collection, no insane Jewelry collection, no estate, no helping every family member, a limit on support staff you can hire. Which by itself would be no big deal, but you have to watch you teammate have those things you willing put out of reach.

To me, it seems being in the NBA, and how NBA players spend their money, is unique to the white collar person.

Isn't the average millionaire in their 50s? I would think those decades might play a part too.

I don't know, I just don't think it is easy as "Read a paper on research....it applies to every NBA player".

I feel not getting paid your full market value is something that has the potential to make players unhappy.

-Second, you talk about the dimishining returns of money, what about championships.

One chip is supposed to keep dudes happy for an entire career? I find that hard to believe. To me the value of a chip to a player is higher for people closer to the end of their career, especially for those dudes that already cashed out and have zero chips. And it wears off over time, especially for younger players.

Like if a player took a pay cut to play on a championship team, and wins one, and say they are extension eligible. We really expect them to say "I'll take another pay cut, to be happier with another championship" or are they gonna be like "it is time to get paid". By your theory, they would sign up for another paycut. I would guess if we did an experiment on this, more people would want the money if they previously took a large paycut to win a chip.

I'd guess there are massive diminishing returns to a championships.

I have to think the massive gains in life satisfaction probably come from the difference between zero and 1 chip.

So if I had to pick between 50 million and 2 ring vs 100 million and 1 ring. I think I'd take 100 million.


Also I feel like there is an "induced demand" (if I'm using that term correctly) element to the players who go broke after making over 50 million dollars

Like is it really the case if I gave Antoine Walker and extra 50 million he would have blown through the other 200 but that 50 would have been enough of a surplus? I doubt that.

But I take your point there are a bunch of factors that make the comparison imperfect.

 

[xxpizzo]

embiid been working on that Hook and Floater

finally going to see some offensive sets

 

[osh kosh bosh]

The guy who is saying he would leave $50MM on the table for $100MM and also previously argued that slavery was beneficial thinks that he would form a lasting connection, business or otherwise, with Jay-Z over the course of a meal.

You can’t make this up.

You seem to struggle so deeply with reading comprehension.

That you have concocted entire fantasy about me and things I haven't said.

I don't kink shame but I must say; your fantasy is just a fantasy.

I implore you to find God.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

The guy who is saying he would leave $50MM on the table for $100MM and also previously argued that slavery was beneficial thinks that he would form a lasting connection, business or otherwise, with Jay-Z over the course of a meal.

You can’t make this up.

Like I know you aren't stupid, so you either are lying or you literally can't read.

I address that in my response and I come to the exact opposite conclusion that you are attributing to me here.

how well would I be able to convert that dinner into a connection with no prior relationship with him?

but prob too much uncertainty in the Jay-Z dinner.
maybe he just tells about the time he lost 92 bricks for 45 mins and calls it a night?

so Ill prob take 50k.

So you are either, stupid, lying, or you simply can't read,...which is it?

 

[Based Jesus]

I thought this man was disputing the slavery comment and he's double-posting over the Jay Z dinner

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I thought this man was disputing the slavery comment and he's double-posting over the Jay Z dinner

I think it's pretty instructive.


Given his inability to accurately restate my premise in this thread. For something I said 5 minutes ago...


How accurate do you think his summary of something I said months ago is?

I obviously said no such thing.
Again either he is stupid, or he's lying. But I'm not sure which it is.

 

[DripNick]

Brother Storm already down bad thinking about Travis Kelce lifting up and shaking his Queen like a damn champagne bottle, now he gotta answer to big C name calling?

 

[antidope]

But what did you say though. Tell us more about the positives of slavery

 

[storm2006]

Insult my intelligence all you want with your soliloquies and double posts. I’m simply saying that Jay-Z wouldn’t like you, man

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Insult my intelligence all you want with your soliloquies and double posts. I’m simply saying that Jay-Z wouldn’t like you, man

Oh no a lying idiot thinks Jay Z wouldn't like me, oh noooo what will I dooooo

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Insult my intelligence all you want with your soliloquies and double posts. I’m simply saying that Jay-Z wouldn’t like you, man

Oh no a lying idiot thinks Jay Z wouldn't like me, oh noooo what will I dooooo

 

[HOU$TON]

The NBA should add an offensive player of the year award.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Oh no a lying idiot thinks Jay Z wouldn't like me, oh noooo what will I dooooo

Oh no a lying idiot thinks Jay Z wouldn't like me, oh noooo what will I dooooo

I know Osh is upset because mans outchea slandering like we back on da Yuku servers.

 

[antidope]

The NBA should add an offensive player of the year award.

That's basically what MVP is until people want to hate on someone/prop up the undeserving.... Like last year

 

[lovehateself]

osh on his mike jones
who, Mike Jones ish

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I know Osh is upset because mans outchea slandering like we back on da Yuku servers.

Elons internet been acting up.

 

[xxpizzo]

aint noway dudes still crying over embiid getting MVP - a Regular sesaon award at that

i dont even be in here everyday so who knows what i miss but man get the **** over it

its just hate at this point