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The Official NBA Season Thread: I’m like Jayson Tatum in the Olympics I'm not playing
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Yeah I agree, do not turn down money- especially in Dame's situation- he earned that right to the max. Portland org owed it to him- along with that the possibility of trading him away if their club was heading towards a rebuild and couldn't be cap flexible enough to field a true to contender
Now I'm not going to at all put Ben quitter Simmons in the same sentence as him or even James Harden. There's levels to this player empowerment stuff and Simmons is the poster for it going south
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Moral of the story is: "Real Gs move in silence like lasagna."
You end up being too flagrant with your demands and you're not a top 5 guy in the league...95% of the time you're not going to go to exactly where you wanna go. You'll get traded and get out, but these front office dudes got egos too. Need to be amicable about the situation like KD.
You end up being too flagrant with your demands and you're not a top 5 guy in the league...95% of the time you're not going to go to exactly where you wanna go. You'll get traded and get out, but these front office dudes got egos too. Need to be amicable about the situation like KD.
akajae
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Yeah that part is on Dame for sure. But trading him to Giannis without giving up Middleton isn't exactly putting him in Washington or Charlotte or something
Dude got traded to a team that now has the best odds to win the title. That wouldn't have been the case if he was traded to Miami- so it is what it is, not mad at the Blazer front office for that one
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Dame could’ve just signed with Miami in free agency. He chose not to.
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The moral of the story is the Heat should have gone harder than Tyler Herro if they wanted Dame.
Don’t try to use your mouthpieces to force any team to take a player they obviously don’t want.
The Heat thought they had the leverage - Portland called their bluff.
Don’t try to use your mouthpieces to force any team to take a player they obviously don’t want.
The Heat thought they had the leverage - Portland called their bluff.
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Dame would be a Heat if they had the best trade offer.
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Don't think Dame deserves anyone's tears. He had the chance to do things a lot different but chose the extension. Good on him, he earned it
He is out of the rebuild and now on the odds on favorite to win the championship with his old head coach waiting for him
Not a bad pivot, even if it's MIL
He is out of the rebuild and now on the odds on favorite to win the championship with his old head coach waiting for him
Not a bad pivot, even if it's MIL
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And yet you see a number of NT'ers yelling from the rooftops that that wouldn't even been a good offer
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I know Dame was considered to be “loyal” for over a decade and Harden is a toxic jumper but the fact remains that both individuals signed contracts and signed their working rights over to their respective franchises instead of retaining complete autonomy over their futures. They both gave control third parties.
THIS! Portland’s direction may have changed over the course of a year but he changed the course of his future as well by signing the extension. He keeps getting a pass for that. Sometimes you have to sacrifice between money, lifestyle/location, winning. He got two of the three most important. Painting him as some sort of victim doesn’t make sense to me.
THIS! Portland’s direction may have changed over the course of a year but he changed the course of his future as well by signing the extension. He keeps getting a pass for that. Sometimes you have to sacrifice between money, lifestyle/location, winning. He got two of the three most important. Painting him as some sort of victim doesn’t make sense to me.
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He 100% fell into a better basketball situation so as y'all have said no real sympathy to be had but the hit piece about POR is going to be effective on some level if for nothing else that part about them asking him to sit out. League probably hates that being out there even more than the trade demands.
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Is anyone really feeling that bad for Dame in here though lol. Besides washed and a few Heat fans
Don't think anyone's giving Dame passes, I see mostly us roasting him and Haynes
Don't think anyone's giving Dame passes, I see mostly us roasting him and Haynes
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EYE am pro-player over organization/ownership BUT blindly being pro-player has the same vibes as 'the customer is always right"
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There's levels to it
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From the very beginning Portland obviously didn’t value Herro as a player for their team, nor as a piece that could be flipped for other more ideal assets.
Given that, like I said the other day, it was Miami’s job to find a 3rd team that would take Herro in exchange for assets that were more appealing to Portland.
Miami either chose not to, thinking they had some kind of leverage, or couldn’t do it, which is why Portland didn’t want Herro in the first place
Either way, Miami has nobody to blame but themselves for how things were handled.
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Is that him in the twitter picture? I assumed he was Black based on his name. Why does this keep happening to me?As a Miami Hurricanes fan, Barry Jackson is one of the worst journalists on the planet. @Bantz Lord T knows too
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GM was moving all sorts of shady throughout and dudes kept siding with the FO
Oh you mean Portland didn't have loyalty back? Who would have thought.
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It’s really that simple. People making it into all these other things about loyalty, claiming that people a lot of people said it was an awful offer, etc. They just don’t value Herro, which is not a crazy position to have at all.From the very beginning Portland obviously didn’t value Herro as a player for their team, nor as a piece that could be flipped for other more ideal assets.
Given that, like I said the other day, it was Miami’s job to find a 3rd team that would take Herro in exchange for assets that were more appealing to Portland.
Miami either chose not to, thinking they had some kind of leverage, or couldn’t do it, which is why Portland didn’t want Herro in the first place
Either way, Miami has nobody to blame but themselves for how things were handled.
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From the very beginning Portland obviously didn’t value Herro as a player for their team, nor as a piece that could be flipped for other more ideal assets.
Given that, like I said the other day, it was Miami’s job to find a 3rd team that would take Herro in exchange for assets that were more appealing to Portland.
Miami either chose not to, thinking they had some kind of leverage, or couldn’t do it, which is why Portland didn’t want Herro in the first place
Either way, Miami has nobody to blame but themselves for how things were handled.
Exactly.
We heard during the draft that Portland didn’t want Herro. Miami had 3 months to figure it out a deal.
They didn’t because they got too cocky. That’s it. That’s the story.
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This place sucks. People stay trying to gas it. Garbage Island where stuff like THIS happens.
dacomeup
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Global warming and poor infrastructure. We’re literally gonna have issues everywhere over the next 50 years. This isn’t a New York specific problem.
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It happens every year now. I used to live in Harrison NJ and had to basically wade home the last time. It blows mine when it happens to NYC of all places. The biggest place in the world. The Epicenter of global commerce. The hub of capitalism.
America sucks. It really is a third world country with money.
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The NYC mayor gotta deploy more of those robot dogs to combat the weather.
