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Take out rings Kobe might not be top 20.
The Official NBA Season Thread: I’m like Jayson Tatum in the Olympics I'm not playing
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Hakeem 2nd greatest defensive player, greatest modern era defender of all time.
Few NBA players to win a ring without a legit elite co star beside him.
And won those championshipa in his post prime.
Hakeem is kind of similar to Kareem in that we only remember his post prime, and his true prime came on some terrible Houston Rockets teams.
Few NBA players to win a ring without a legit elite co star beside him.
And won those championshipa in his post prime.
Hakeem is kind of similar to Kareem in that we only remember his post prime, and his true prime came on some terrible Houston Rockets teams.
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you think I'll be able to dunk again? 6'0, 39, 6'6 wingspan. I got my weight down to pre-washed levels I used to dunk a this weight 15+ years ago
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Whoa whoa you're taking this too far now.
Their efficiency is basically the same.
Don't hate me, hate the numbers. Both under 45% from the field for their career, both under 33% from 3 for their career.
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They won the protest with that divencenzo spear
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Of course no legit rebuttal. Goofy per usual.
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osh kosh bosh
Jeter would get the same things in NY if he died tragically a few years after retiring. That’s the only other American athlete I can think of.Steph will be another one.
That’s pretty much it when it comes to homegrown superstars that captivated a City for 10-15 years plus.
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Not all efficiency is the same tho,
the bulk of Kobe's career came In a low efficiency era.
And unlike Russ, Kobe's efficiency while on the low side was incredibly resistant.
His efficiency generally stayed the same against great defenses and in the playoffs.
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No doubt I'm with that but was he underperforming like an Embiid in L's or rising like a Joker in L's?
That matters to me too
but like you said you gotta split hairs somewhere with these players I get it
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I'm not the biggest Kobe fan
but one day young people are gunna try and say
"oh Devin Booker is way more efficient so therefore he's better than Kobe."
And we can't let that happen. We gotta be the grumpy old heads and tell them no.
but one day young people are gunna try and say
"oh Devin Booker is way more efficient so therefore he's better than Kobe."
And we can't let that happen. We gotta be the grumpy old heads and tell them no.
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elpablo21
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I had
WASHED KING
's hate list order all wrong.
So far it's
1. MJ
2. Wemby
3. Kobe
4. Steph
5.
addict4sneakers
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WASHED KING
's hate list order all wrong.So far it's
1. MJ
2. Wemby
3. Kobe
4. Steph
5.
addict4sneakers
' folder
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First off Kobe got 3 charity AS nods in his last 3 seasons. So we can go ahead and knock that down to 15.
3 of those rings were Shaqs. I don't count chips unless you were the FMVP. If we are giving sidekicks credit Pippen needs to be top 10 too.
KD, Bird, and Steph are better statistically the only one that you might be able to argue is Hakeem.
Only 1 MVP is a knock
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It’s true.
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Lets just put AI top 10 while we're at it then.
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Not a God damn person will say that about Devin Booker.
Just wait. Kids who didn't see Kobe play will look at the stats.
And see Kobe's super low efficiency compared to modern players
and conclude the guy with the bigger numbers must be better.
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Bringing Devin Booker into this nonsense was so unnecessary. The chakras of this thread needs realigning...
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Mans said take the emotion out of it and all over this is a fictitious, hypothetical windbag take which really just does crystalize what we already know, you don't know ball. At all.
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I’m not going to sit here and post entire stat sheets for each player.
The last paragraph I already told you statistically all those players are better than Kobe. If you want me to add screenshots I can. But I’m assuming you could just check it with your own internet connection.
Kobe Bryant is not a better individual player than KD, Steph, Bird or Shaq. Only true case you will have to put those guys below Kobe would be longevity. And all Steph and KD need are about 2 more seasons and that case is gone too.
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