Yea I'm not ready to put Luka anywhere ahead of him until he steps up on the defensive end consistently man
Embiid is top 5
He should be. But he isn’t. Can’t stay healthy. Can’t get to the conference finals. Comes up small when you need him. Same thing every year.
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Maybe I'm a hater but I personally can't rationalize putting any of these young bucks outside the top 5 ahead of Bron, Steve and KD when everyone's healthy
Yea, same way Stockton's home score keeper did the same with his steals/assists.Semi-long read but it's about the wild extent that the Chicago scorekeeper juiced MJ's steal/block stats to get him the '88 DPOY.
A closer look at Michael Jordan's 1988 DPOY award raises questions about its validity. Has LeBron James been chasing a ghost?
New research reveals Jordan's Defensive Player of the Year season likely included home-biased stats.
Bron KD and Steph combined to win 1 playoff game this season. It’s a new day.Maybe I'm a hater but I personally can't rationalize putting any of these young bucks outside the top 5 ahead of Bron, Steve and KD when everyone's healthy
I'm not interested in the analytics, the eye test won't let me
Even AD is still up there imo
That's down to the futility of their respective teams though
, we're talking players individually no?
100% top 10 rn, it's not easy bringing the Knicks back
He was at 27/7/6 on 48/40/80 splits at 22 years old and played great defense up until the WCF. He averaged 30 the year before in the playoffs. 6 apg at 22 and he ain’t even a good playmaker yet.
Whole reason Wemby is legitimately Top 20 alreadyThat's down to the futility of their respective teams though
You think Bron more effective than KD?
Semi-long read but it's about the wild extent that the Chicago scorekeeper juiced MJ's steal/block stats to get him the '88 DPOY.
A closer look at Michael Jordan's 1988 DPOY award raises questions about its validity. Has LeBron James been chasing a ghost?
New research reveals Jordan's Defensive Player of the Year season likely included home-biased stats.
Yea with these top 5/10 discussions I don't really give team success the same weight that it has when we're talking about players legacies/all time rankings.
KD is the better scorer and better defender at this point in their careers but I think Bron possesses some playmaking that even at his age is more impactful than KD.
Nah man a top 5 player is winning you an opening round series. Lebron had AD too. KD had Booker too. The rules don’t change because they are legends.That's down to the futility of their respective teams though
Swap them out with the trending upwards young guy's on those same teams and they'll get just as far
I didn't say they're top 5 though, I don't think they are at this stage in their careers.
