The Official NBA Season Thread: NBA Cup Night

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Mavs are worse without Dinwiddie and DFS.

Cuban going to regret trading for Kyrie thinking he could've probably gotten Vando, DLo, and Beasley for the same pkg he sent to BKN lol

Instead Lakers now gunning for that 4-5 seed while DAL is sliding down the standings
 
Mavs need Kyrie to not go off the rails these next 18 months to build up the depth and defense lost from the trade.
 


See this is the type of of bull**** that should not be rewarded.

Tillman Fertitta is out here at Mardi Gras openly saying “we’re going for Vic!!!!”

It’s disgusting to be out here rewarding this level of tanking this level of incompetence.
 
You pay that much for the Knicks you’ll probably never see a ROI. People are blinded by the 70s.
 


NBA, NBPA progressing in talks on reaching new CBA

The NBA and National Basketball Players Association are progressing in talks on reaching a new collective bargaining agreement, multiple sources with knowledge of both sides of the discussions tell The Athletic.

The sides have extended their mutual opt-out deadline during the process and currently have a March 31 deadline to reach an agreement on a new CBA, have one party opt-out or once again extend the process. Sources say that there’s been significant progress made in recent weeks on key issues and it’s given the hope that a deal is within grasp in the coming weeks.

The NBPA has informed the league office that it is their intention and goal to complete a deal in March, according to sources.

“We want to finish this deal soon and certainly want this wrapped up before the (March 31) deadline,” one high-ranking source involved in the players’ negotiations, who was granted anonymity so they could speak freely, told The Athletic. “It’s close — we need to dot the I’s and cross the T’s.”

The NBA and NBPA are in the midst of a typical negotiation, with the sides extending the deadline multiple times. However, it’s been clear the parties — led by commissioner Adam Silver and union executive director Tamika Tremaglio — are motivated to complete a deal and are working thoroughly to find an agreement.

Among the most critical issues, the NBA and NBPA are negotiating new luxury-tax tiers and rates to increase the lower tier and make it more viable for teams to spend money into the tax. As salaries continue to increase across the league, increasing the lower tax bracket tier allows the tax tiers to match up with the money being spent.

Currently, for between $0 and $4,999,999 over the cap, the tax rate is $1.50 for every dollar over the cap. For teams between $5,000,000 and $9,999,999 over the cap, the tax rate is $1.75 for every dollar over the cap. The NBA and NBPA are attempting to identify where the tax bracket tiers should be set — while maintaining the punitive state of the upper tax levels.

Since everything about these dividing lines is completely up for negotiation in a new CBA, the two sides can redo them to make a small dip into the tax more manageable and then step up the charges for those franchises willing to dive head first into the tax. Increasing each of the thresholds that make up the luxury tax (often called “bands”) that lead to steeper tax payments also makes sense with a league that has much higher revenues and thus a much higher salary cap than they did in previous agreements.

The NBA currently has a seven-year CBA that expires after the 2023-24 season.

For the NBA, the issues of load management and resting among players and teams are core concerns, as well as the Diamond Sports’ Regional Sports Network and its economic model being able to sustain the broadcasting of 16 of the league’s teams.

The sides are also discussing several other core issues:

  • Lowering the age eligibility for the NBA Draft to 18 years old, which would effectively end the one-and-done system in college basketball. The NBA and NBPA have momentum on an agreement to terms that would lower the age to 18 for the draft, but sources say the union is pushing for conditions that would facilitate veteran players providing tutelage and orientation to the high schoolers entering the league. The players union wants to maintain the presence of veteran players and not allow newcomers to replace them, especially in the cases of teams with high school prospects who enter the NBA.
  • Increasing the contract extension limits, which would add flexibility and have significant effects incredibly quickly. Under the current CBA, teams and players can only increase the player’s salary by 120 percent in the first new year of the extension unless that player qualifies as a designated player/rookie or makes well below the league’s average salary. Shifting that 120 percent to potentially 140-150 percent as the sides have discussed, according to sources, opens the door a lot more for players who signed contracts that eventually become below-market deals to get enough of a raise to commit ahead of time, a group that potentially includes O.G. Anunoby, Domantas Sabonis and Lauri Markkanen over the next few seasons.
  • Smoothing out the process by which the salary cap rises instead of allowing the cap to spike, which occurred in 2016 and led to several overpriced contracts.
 
Mavs are worse without Dinwiddie and DFS.

Cuban going to regret trading for Kyrie thinking he could've probably gotten Vando, DLo, and Beasley for the same pkg he sent to BKN lol

Instead Lakers now gunning for that 4-5 seed while DAL is sliding down the standings

For sure they are worse as DFS and Dindwiddie are better defenders. The Mavs as they are today are not so good because of the bad defense. But if you put plus defenders around that team, the ceiling of a Luka Kyrie backcourt is much higher than Dinwiddie and DFS.
 
You pay that much for the Knicks you’ll probably never see a ROI. People are blinded by the 70s.

Knicks could go 0-82 for the next 20 years.

Prospective Owners would still drop $10B on them.

NBA team in the media capital of the world? Huge and loyal fanbase. Profit when you lose.

Qatar is already waiting.



 


Updated rankings after last night:

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I cannot believe the Jazz have a better record than the Wolves after the Wolves went all in on Gobert.

The wolves went from a scrappy young team on the rise to a very unlikable team. This trade is looking worse and worse by the day.

Almost as bad as when the Celtics outsourced their rebuild to the Nets.

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NBA, NBPA progressing in talks on reaching new CBA

The NBA and National Basketball Players Association are progressing in talks on reaching a new collective bargaining agreement, multiple sources with knowledge of both sides of the discussions tell The Athletic.

The sides have extended their mutual opt-out deadline during the process and currently have a March 31 deadline to reach an agreement on a new CBA, have one party opt-out or once again extend the process. Sources say that there’s been significant progress made in recent weeks on key issues and it’s given the hope that a deal is within grasp in the coming weeks.

The NBPA has informed the league office that it is their intention and goal to complete a deal in March, according to sources.

“We want to finish this deal soon and certainly want this wrapped up before the (March 31) deadline,” one high-ranking source involved in the players’ negotiations, who was granted anonymity so they could speak freely, told The Athletic. “It’s close — we need to dot the I’s and cross the T’s.”

The NBA and NBPA are in the midst of a typical negotiation, with the sides extending the deadline multiple times. However, it’s been clear the parties — led by commissioner Adam Silver and union executive director Tamika Tremaglio — are motivated to complete a deal and are working thoroughly to find an agreement.

Among the most critical issues, the NBA and NBPA are negotiating new luxury-tax tiers and rates to increase the lower tier and make it more viable for teams to spend money into the tax. As salaries continue to increase across the league, increasing the lower tax bracket tier allows the tax tiers to match up with the money being spent.

Currently, for between $0 and $4,999,999 over the cap, the tax rate is $1.50 for every dollar over the cap. For teams between $5,000,000 and $9,999,999 over the cap, the tax rate is $1.75 for every dollar over the cap. The NBA and NBPA are attempting to identify where the tax bracket tiers should be set — while maintaining the punitive state of the upper tax levels.

Since everything about these dividing lines is completely up for negotiation in a new CBA, the two sides can redo them to make a small dip into the tax more manageable and then step up the charges for those franchises willing to dive head first into the tax. Increasing each of the thresholds that make up the luxury tax (often called “bands”) that lead to steeper tax payments also makes sense with a league that has much higher revenues and thus a much higher salary cap than they did in previous agreements.

The NBA currently has a seven-year CBA that expires after the 2023-24 season.

For the NBA, the issues of load management and resting among players and teams are core concerns, as well as the Diamond Sports’ Regional Sports Network and its economic model being able to sustain the broadcasting of 16 of the league’s teams.

The sides are also discussing several other core issues:

  • Lowering the age eligibility for the NBA Draft to 18 years old, which would effectively end the one-and-done system in college basketball. The NBA and NBPA have momentum on an agreement to terms that would lower the age to 18 for the draft, but sources say the union is pushing for conditions that would facilitate veteran players providing tutelage and orientation to the high schoolers entering the league. The players union wants to maintain the presence of veteran players and not allow newcomers to replace them, especially in the cases of teams with high school prospects who enter the NBA.
  • Increasing the contract extension limits, which would add flexibility and have significant effects incredibly quickly. Under the current CBA, teams and players can only increase the player’s salary by 120 percent in the first new year of the extension unless that player qualifies as a designated player/rookie or makes well below the league’s average salary. Shifting that 120 percent to potentially 140-150 percent as the sides have discussed, according to sources, opens the door a lot more for players who signed contracts that eventually become below-market deals to get enough of a raise to commit ahead of time, a group that potentially includes O.G. Anunoby, Domantas Sabonis and Lauri Markkanen over the next few seasons.
  • Smoothing out the process by which the salary cap rises instead of allowing the cap to spike, which occurred in 2016 and led to several overpriced contracts.



League is gonna eliminate free agency. :lol
 
The Wolves def have a better record than the Jazz if KAT wasn’t hurt

I don't know about that...the fit with Rudy was odd. They weren't doing too well with him on the court this year. They're just a mess.

I wonder if ANT will turn down his Rookie extension...
 
It happened again. I fell asleep AGAIN. I'm blaming the Clippers.
Something about the way they play puts me right to sleep.
 
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