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addict4sneakers said:
Ant should be higher Bron and Steph though
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Nah...not better than Steph or Bron yet imo. Wolves were the deepest team maybe besides the Celtics last year.

I hope I'm wrong cause the league needs him, but until he develops the ability to run any offense, he can't be ahead of Steph for me. I could hear a Bron argument, but not Steph yet.
 
finessence said:
Jalen Brunson has a maximum 3 years of prime production left. Once he turns 31 it’s going to have an extreme fall off

That’s why he took less on that extension
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I agree. I think it's 2 years though. He's not a premium athlete physically. His speed will go first. And he's not that fast to begin with, but he's quick and shifty.
 
worldbeefreeg said:
Nah...not better than Steph or Bron yet imo. Wolves were the deepest team maybe besides the Celtics last year.

I hope I'm wrong cause the league needs him, but until he develops the ability to run any offense, he can't be ahead of Steph for me. I could hear a Bron argument, but not Steph yet.
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He’s 22. Even with shaky court vision he was at 27/7/7 in the playoffs on 48% shooting. Not going to say it’s all the team when he is the machine of the team offensively. And neither Bron or Steph are defending at the level he is. I’m talking about today, not legacy
 
ESPN's list is based on last season to forecast this upcoming season, right?

If so....

And not even including playoffs.........

#SameTier
 
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Meet the 10 small business owners who just got $100,000 from Jaylen Brown and Jrue and Lauren Holiday - The Boston Globe

The Celtics stars met with 10 entrepreneurs who are part of their inaugural program that funds Boston-area founders to create $5 billion in generational wealth in communities of color.
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By Shirley Leung

Jaylen Brown and Jrue Holiday weren’t in Celtics uniform Wednesday night, but they worked as teammates on something bigger than basketball: closing the racial wealth gap in Boston.

Brown and Holiday, joined by his wife Lauren Holiday, held court at Grace by Nia jazz club in the Seaport District, where they met the 10 Boston-area entrepreneurs who are part of an accelerator program Brown and the Holidays launched this month.

Each entrepreneur will receive up to $100,000 in grant funding over the next three years as well as access to mentors and services from partner institutions including Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Harvard Business School, and Roxbury Community College.

The accelerator is the first program to come out of Brown’s Boston XChange (BXC), a nonprofit initiative the Celtics star unveiled in August to help create $5 billion in generational wealth in Boston’s communities of color. BXC grew out of Brown’s comments last year after inking a then-record $304 million NBA contract extension and how he wanted to use some of the money to create a “Black Wall Street” in Boston.

“Sports has its way of bringing everybody together, especially here in Boston,” Brown told the group. “We know you love your sports ... but I think there’s championships to be won outside of the game of basketball as well.”

Brown partnered with the Holidays’ JLH Social Impact Fund, created in 2020 after the murder of George Floyd to support founders of color nationwide. To date, the fund has doled out about $5 million in grants to over 200 businesses and nonprofits.

“This is my favorite part, where we can come in and we can see people talking about their dreams,” said Jrue Holiday.

Lauren Holiday, who was a longtime member of the US Women’s National soccer team, said she wants to get to know the founders and be part of their journeys. “For us, it’s so much more than just writing a check,” she said. “It’s actually being involved.”

Renee King, program lead for the JLH fund who was part of the accelerator’s selection process, emphasized the importance of collaboration in tackling something as challenging as racial wealth disparities.

“It can’t be centered around one person, one platform, one thing,” she said. “It needs to be an entire village organized.”

While Boston is awash in accelerators and incubators, especially for tech and life science startups, there’s not much support for the creative economy. That’s what Brown and the Holidays decided to focus on — think design, entertainment, fashion, media, and culinary arts.

Applications were due in August, with the majority coming from Black founders and many from Dorchester, according to Yscaira Jimenez, a serial entrepreneur and MIT lecturer who helped design the accelerator and was part of the selection process.

“The most exciting kind of statistic is the diversity of the creator types,” Jimenez said. “We had... technology and retail ... we had advocacy, visual arts. We had just people from all over — music, culinary.”
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www.bostonglobe.com

Meet the 10 small business owners who just got $100,000 from Jaylen Brown and Jrue and Lauren Holiday - The Boston Globe

The Celtics stars met with 10 entrepreneurs who are part of their inaugural program that funds Boston-area founders to create $5 billion in generational wealth in communities of color.
www.bostonglobe.com www.bostonglobe.com


By Shirley Leung

Jaylen Brown and Jrue Holiday weren’t in Celtics uniform Wednesday night, but they worked as teammates on something bigger than basketball: closing the racial wealth gap in Boston.

Brown and Holiday, joined by his wife Lauren Holiday, held court at Grace by Nia jazz club in the Seaport District, where they met the 10 Boston-area entrepreneurs who are part of an accelerator program Brown and the Holidays launched this month.

Each entrepreneur will receive up to $100,000 in grant funding over the next three years as well as access to mentors and services from partner institutions including Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Harvard Business School, and Roxbury Community College.

The accelerator is the first program to come out of Brown’s Boston XChange (BXC), a nonprofit initiative the Celtics star unveiled in August to help create $5 billion in generational wealth in Boston’s communities of color. BXC grew out of Brown’s comments last year after inking a then-record $304 million NBA contract extension and how he wanted to use some of the money to create a “Black Wall Street” in Boston.

“Sports has its way of bringing everybody together, especially here in Boston,” Brown told the group. “We know you love your sports ... but I think there’s championships to be won outside of the game of basketball as well.”

Brown partnered with the Holidays’ JLH Social Impact Fund, created in 2020 after the murder of George Floyd to support founders of color nationwide. To date, the fund has doled out about $5 million in grants to over 200 businesses and nonprofits.

“This is my favorite part, where we can come in and we can see people talking about their dreams,” said Jrue Holiday.

Lauren Holiday, who was a longtime member of the US Women’s National soccer team, said she wants to get to know the founders and be part of their journeys. “For us, it’s so much more than just writing a check,” she said. “It’s actually being involved.”

Renee King, program lead for the JLH fund who was part of the accelerator’s selection process, emphasized the importance of collaboration in tackling something as challenging as racial wealth disparities.

“It can’t be centered around one person, one platform, one thing,” she said. “It needs to be an entire village organized.”

While Boston is awash in accelerators and incubators, especially for tech and life science startups, there’s not much support for the creative economy. That’s what Brown and the Holidays decided to focus on — think design, entertainment, fashion, media, and culinary arts.

Applications were due in August, with the majority coming from Black founders and many from Dorchester, according to Yscaira Jimenez, a serial entrepreneur and MIT lecturer who helped design the accelerator and was part of the selection process.

“The most exciting kind of statistic is the diversity of the creator types,” Jimenez said. “We had... technology and retail ... we had advocacy, visual arts. We had just people from all over — music, culinary.”
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addict4sneakers said:
He’s 22. Even with shaky court vision he was at 27/7/7 in the playoffs on 48% shooting. Not going to say it’s all the team when he is the machine of the team offensively. And neither Bron or Steph are defending at the level he is. I’m talking about today, not legacy
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I never said it was all the team. I love Ant, but I think he's lucky to have had such a well-rounded team around him early in his career that has covered up a lot of his holes.

You said he's the engine of an offense, but that was the 16th best offense in the league last year...That's kind of my point. And that's with the premier catch-and-shoot big man of today by his side. If you hand Ant the ball and ask him to run the show, you're not going to get the return you want., at least not yet. You saw that on Team USA, he still doesn't really know how to analyze the game yet, and get his teammates involved. The ceiling for a guy like that in the modern game just isn't THAT high.

This is all splitting hairs cause the reality is that winning has a lot more to do with how good your 3rd-7th rotational players are than who is better Ant or Brunson. The elite level guys can mostly be replaced by other elite level guys and the results would be the same.

I think there is a clear top four (Jokic, Shai, Luka, Giannis) and then it is really is a giant tier after that which has a boatload of guys, (Mitchell, Tatum, Kat, Steph, AD, Bron Brunson, Ant, Booker, Bam, KD etc.) and I can understand certain arguments or potential for certain guys within that list to be ahead of others but it's really just preference or bias mostly.
 
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