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I remember the racist rumor for Tommy. That rumor had the same effect on Timberland boots as well. Both were hurting for a long time as a result.
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Chiming in on the rumor. Def spread like wildfire when I was in junior high. Once the rumor hit, everyone completely stopped shopping at TH and went full Nautica & RL.
Crazy.
Crazy.
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when exactly were power pieces going for big coin back in the day? currently we're at the apex of what vintage polo has been re-selling for from what i've seen online.
it's not about how much cash you blow, but it's how you blow the cash. this "game" was always to get expensive gear for cheap and i still keep that mentality.
what i type may convey a different meaning which happens often, but talking down to you as a child was never my intention.
i'm more humble and grown than people think of me on here, but in the end I can care less about what people think of me on here.
good for you if you're in corrections, if that's what you are implying you do, but i don't even know the relevance of bringing up occupations.
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For people adding their .02 cents on the whole Hilfiger "racist", it would be helpful to state where you are from and lived at during the times so we can see how the rumor affect different regions.
In NYC, the rumors were just rumors. From what I know and heard, it was taken out of context to the effect him saying something like "he never thought that minorities would be so attracted to his clothing" because he was designing clothing on a preppy lifestyle and it was the complete opposite that made his brand iconic at the time.
But people still wore it but eventually Hilfiger died off. Likewise to what BIP stated, when the Tommy Jeans label came out, he catered to the demographic making it somewhat less appealing.
In NYC, the rumors were just rumors. From what I know and heard, it was taken out of context to the effect him saying something like "he never thought that minorities would be so attracted to his clothing" because he was designing clothing on a preppy lifestyle and it was the complete opposite that made his brand iconic at the time.
But people still wore it but eventually Hilfiger died off. Likewise to what BIP stated, when the Tommy Jeans label came out, he catered to the demographic making it somewhat less appealing.
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That racist stuff cut both ways...I remember white boys doing the same thing with Karl Kani and Fubu. They got Lauryn with that nonsense, now they tryna get Jay. So silly.
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That's still my mentality Lol...that's why I'm glad I got most my items back in the day. People think I'm joking when I say I'm retiring from vintage
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You beat me to it man. I was going to say "Tommy Gear" deaded Tommy in the South imo. When I saw cats rocking that ish w/o shame then I knew it was the nail in the coffin.
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Those tommy gear condoms people wore on their heads and goggles remind me of Ali G.
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I don't remember those rumors hurting Tommy Hill in nyc much. Never knew anyone who stopped wearing his gear because of it either. There wasn't really any confirmation that he said what was alleged and the other rumors about him hooking up Puba with entire wardrobes actually helped him. He embraced our culture, cut clothes the way we wore them and would be seen rubbing elbows with rappers. He fell off because his designs did.
To be honest most ppl I knew or dealt with didn't care about racial rumors whether it was Tommy or Timbs cause quite frankly so many of us weren't paying for their products and when we did most of the time is was at half price from boosters or "gap houses" and if you were a regular the disco was even greater.
To be honest most ppl I knew or dealt with didn't care about racial rumors whether it was Tommy or Timbs cause quite frankly so many of us weren't paying for their products and when we did most of the time is was at half price from boosters or "gap houses" and if you were a regular the disco was even greater.
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Saying that something was designed for the people who wound up liking it is something incredibly different than saying you don't want those people wearing your items. That's what I never got. If he said something like the former, it does not in any way imply that latter. ...Like those dudes who hopped off Tommy and onto Nautica or RL - how were those brands designed "for them" any more so than Hilfiger was?... Nothing about the whole fiasco made sense. And, I think in NYC - home of the most acutely calibrated BS detectors there are - people just sort of dismissed it as noise.
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Those "gap houses" were a beautiful thing! I remember going to several in your hood and mine. That was back when I spoke Spanish a lot better than I do today.
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Didn't Liz Claiborne appear on her show and said she was racist??? Hahaha
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I been tried to get this point across and i think it is pretty plain for anyone who comes in this thread to see. Just try to ignore it and not let it derail the thread. Some people are just ********, no need to let it rustle you.
Yeah I spoke on this in a previous conversation. The way I see it they are chasing that new customer/new dollar a lot more than they should be from a longevity standpoint. That nike/jordan comparison, it's happening. And once it starts it just keeps going and going due to the dynamics of publicly traded companies. Once Ralph passes, this company will be whored out to the max.
Thats how I remember it too. He made that comment which seemed innocent and accurate to me and I think people just ran with it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was propagated by his competition cause he was running things at that time.
I had tons of Tommy gear, have no clue where it is now but I was def on that wave. Nautica too. Probably the only thing I still have from that mid 90s era is a reversible Nautica yachting jacket, yellow on one side, colorblocked on the other. Still has the original boat keychain on the zipper too. In the midwest, once I started having money it was platinum fubu, pelle pelle and girbauds daily. Fat Albert head to toe lol.
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I been tried to get this point across and i think it is pretty plain for anyone who comes in this thread to see. Just try to ignore it and not let it derail the thread. Some people are just ********, no need to let it rustle you.
Yeah I spoke on this in a previous conversation. The way I see it they are chasing that new customer/new dollar a lot more than they should be from a longevity standpoint. That nike/jordan comparison, it's happening. And once it starts it just keeps going and going due to the dynamics of publicly traded companies. Once Ralph passes, this company will be whored out to the max.
Thats how I remember it too. He made that comment which seemed innocent and accurate to me and I think people just ran with it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was propagated by his competition cause he was running things at that time.
I had tons of Tommy gear, have no clue where it is now but I was def on that wave. Nautica too. Probably the only thing I still have from that mid 90s era is a reversible Nautica yachting jacket, yellow on one side, colorblocked on the other. Still has the original boat keychain on the zipper too. In the midwest, once I started having money it was platinum fubu, pelle pelle and girbauds daily. Fat Albert head to toe lol.
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Great point my dude. Feeling these shorts at the bottom a lot.
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Were you selling this or bought this off of ebay last week? I swooped this pic from ebay last week and threw it on my tumblr. Waaanted it but it was going for $400
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Morning gents... things turned up a bit.. love the Hilfiger/Lo discussion, I have a Hilfiger nautical jacket from the 90's I loved man, quality was 
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Weather is cold again, guess it was too soon to put my boots away. NYC = Gotham city
g (heads to ebay)Weather is cold again, guess it was too soon to put my boots away. NYC = Gotham city
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no i saw it on ebay it was 400 i was like no thnak you. missed out on this work of artWere you selling this or bought this off of ebay last week? I swooped this pic from ebay last week and threw it on my tumblr. Waaanted it but it was going for $400
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Great pics Frank. Love the collection so far...
Speaking of Tommy Hilfiger, I did buy this bulldog cotton sweater this Winter; my first Tommy purchase in over 15 years. It went well with the RL that I have.
Speaking of Tommy Hilfiger, I did buy this bulldog cotton sweater this Winter; my first Tommy purchase in over 15 years. It went well with the RL that I have.
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Love the fit as always bro, and that sweater mixes in very well bruh
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no i saw it on ebay it was 400 i was like no thnak you. missed out on this work of art
I love this piece, too bad it wasnt my size....I do have another color way in orange and navy
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Orange and navy color blocking
These would be considered as a middle tier vintage piece, that are currently going for over $100 now, like the blue and red post above...these are the pieces I really like.
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