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This thread's stupid. Robert Horry is a HOFer.
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the point of this thread wasnt to discredit Horry, ska is just pointing out that the "Robert Horry Argument" is not a valid argument when comparing role players to starsThis thread's stupid. Robert Horry is a HOFer.
Flip a coin. Both Shaq AND Kobe. Whomever says Shaq was the main player without a doubt needsto think again. Both Shaq and Kobe were dominant. Your 100% MAIN player should NEVER be off the floor in crunch time and at times Shaq wouldn't be on the floor in crunch time due to obvious reasons.so who was the MAIN player during the LAKERS 3peat in the early 2000's?
Flip a coin. Both Shaq AND Kobe. Whomever says Shaq was the main player without a doubt needsto think again. Both Shaq and Kobe were dominant. Your 100% MAIN player should NEVER be off the floor in crunch time and at times Shaq wouldn't be on the floor in crunch time due to obvious reasons.
I'm a die hard Laker fan by the way. I'm saying this without any bias.
Okay, forget Robert Horry.
Gus Williams (won as the man on the 79 Sonics) > Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Kevin Durant, etc.?? Okay.
Bill Walton = LeBron James as of right now? Thanks for the info.
Paul Pierce, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups... Are these also dumb examples? They were certainly at least just as impactful in their championships as Kobe when he rode Shaq, especially the first one when Shaq won despite Kobe averaging 15.6 on .367 shooting in the finals.
As long as you keep posting stupid crap like "5 > 1", you better believe you'll be hearing about Robert Horry.. As well as Derek Fisher, Bill Wennington, Adam Morrison and others.
Rings may not define a player but this super team choking against the mavs will always be on lebron and lebron alone.
When lebron loses- rings dont matter
When he chokes with a super team- rings dont matter
When he finally wins on a super team? - RINGZ YO!
I have never heard/seen Horry brought up in "best player" arguments as it pertains to Kobe and LeBron. Maybe sarcastically, but never as "hes better because he has more rings"
It's the first time you have heard it because nobody with a brain thinks it.That's a first.
I've never heard Robert Horry ever referred to as a 'ring-chaser'.
Like I said in the other thread. This rings don't matter argument didn't come about until lebron turned it into overdrive. It was always mj is 6/6 in thr finals 6>5. Kobe has three rings he can never be the goat (gets 2 more) he needs 2 more. Same witg magic. Now since lebron has been amazing its rings dont define tge player since its looking like he might not break 2/3
I think he gets discounted due to his physical dominance over the players he went against. Many think he is the greatest regardless
I think he also gets discredited because many of his best games aren't on film
NO! Just NO! For you to say it was Shaq and Shaq ONLY IN WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS. I stand by my aforementioned statement. Flip a coin. It was BOTH Shaq and Kobe during those titles. Shaq was the number one guy period? I think not. So many times Shaq had to be taken out of the game due to his free throw deficiencies during cruch time. I'm not discrediting Shaq (he's the man) but your number one player WOULD NEVER BE OFF THE FLOOR IN A TIME LIKE THAT. I don't think you grasped that. For finishers, you seem to be down playing Kobe's play. During the first title run Kobe avg 21 ppg/4.5 rpg/ 4.4 apg. The second title run he averaged 29 ppg/ 7.3 rpg/ 6.1 apg. Capping off the 3peat he avg 27 ppg/ 5.8 rpg/ 4.6 apg. Now look at that think and think rational. Don't try to flame. Shaq was the number one guy period/point blank/and nobody else? I'll wait.First off, to say it was BOTH Shaq and Kobe is just plain wrong. Shaq was clearly the man on those squads and in the finals. Tbh it's pretty ignorant to even think so. When you average 30 plus points and 13 plus rebounds you are the number one guy. Period.
HORRY'S... and Sasha's, Barea's, Haslem's, Paxson's, Rambis', Okur's... table is 'ROLE Players w/ Rings'.
I think he also gets discredited because many of his best games aren't on film
Horry is just the perfect case of 'ring-chaser'.