The Thread About Nothing. SNEAKER EDITION

[MaxP_3]

the Lebron 7 had a lot of the ill colorways. i think thats one of the reason's people have it as the #1 lebron

For me it was the simplicity that made it classic. Plus the other ones afterward just look like an evolution or remake of the 7. A lot of people love the 10 which to me looks like a 7 remix. I even wore a pair of 10s yesterday and my girl thought they were 7s.

 

[beh235]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the WTL 11's?

It's the same for every "what the" shoe Nike does, I don't see the appeal of taking 20 different cw's and mashing them into 1 shoe- it doesn't look good imo

You're not the only one. I don't like them either and I think the concept is done.

 

 

Prestos are one of my all time favorites.

The original Presto IDs from 2001 were really nice. They had the ID embossed into the plastic lace holder, instead of printed on the heel like later editions.

Kind of wish I was around to see earlier IDs

Early IDs were dope. I remember wanting the GP3s so bad, but never getting them.


I think they also had the other Morph shoes (Kidds and Pippens) available for customization also but I'm not quite sure. Anyone remember ?

I believe they were the Kidds

Never understood the hype on the Corks..

Neither do I, not a fan of them.

Random thought...



Cement Print vs Elephant Print


Seems like most people call Elephant print, Cement print.


I always remembered Cement print being the speckled pattern on the white/cement IVs and elephant print being imitation elephant skin.





Also... has anyone else noticed how bloated and exaggerated the IIIs have grown overtime ? I guess its somewhat true for every retro, but comparing the 01 and up releases to my 94 is like a totally different shoe and the originals from 88 are even more slim than my 94s.

It is a common mistake,  idk why people make it though, they are clearly two different things. As far as the III's, the only thing I can come up with is that when remaking them, the looked at old pics of MJ when he wore them, particularly in the dunk contest in '88. In certain angles, they look puffy because of the socks he had on. A quick glance and you can make that mistake. They kind of gave them a "graffiti" letter style spin making them slightly rounder and puffy. They really go hard on that nostalgia factor. 

Nike doesn't have to get it right cause the only thing that matters to them is profit. Only way they would fix molds is if they thought the consumers wouldn't buy their butchered retros any more.

Exactly, but like you said, people blindly buy so they won't put in any effort to make it right. 

 

That wouldn't ever be a steal. That's paying retail.

With how much higher than retail a lot of pairs can get on the resale market, I do get what you meant, but I've always known a steal to mean significantly less than retail. What you described would just be a good deal.

Oh.. so they're two different things? lol

Yes. So sad you don't see it, it's not your fault though, it's just a function of the way it is now. Steals are fewer and far between these days. 

 

I do. I don't think it'll ever be the same but it'll get better

It's too engrained in society right now. Sneakers weren't even this popular when Michael Jordan was winning championships

Yup, it's so strange. Social media also has a huge hand in it sadly. 

 

I don't think the "sneaker bubble" will ever burst.

The entire market is comparable to Beanie Babies in the late 90s... its an expanding bubble that's destined to pop. Kids.... literally children, dominate the current marketplace. Their interest in shoes is based entirely around their monetary value and notoriety from their piers, not true passion. Only a matter of time before they move on to something else.


Just like fads of earlier generations, Nike is completely saturating the market. Nike is following the Beanie Baby business model to a T. Everything is pseudo "Limited", has a silly nickname, quarterly releases become monthly releases, turn into weekly releases now we have a multiple new releases every weekend. All these people care about is how limited a shoe is and what it could re-sell for. This has really turned into ridiculous kids game and pissing contest consisting of young suburban kids trying to one up each other.


Even "limited" shoes aren't remotely limited compared to the past. Modern limited shoes like the Yeezys have 5,000 pair runs while shoes like the Olympic Flightposite KGs and BB4 Shox released in 2000 were limited to a mere 500 pairs each. It's a completely different market and sneakers have been relegated to a completely commercialized fad for the youth.


People always bought Js and Nikes because they had a "cool" factor, but there was also a high level of comfort and functionality that was expected to come along with the shoes. Now they're only selling the look of the shoe with no regard for the performance and technology that made them so great in the first place and kids just gobble up whatever crap Nike produces every weekend.


The vast majority of the athletic shoes being sold by Nike are not being used for any athletic purpose. Of course people will always need shoes, but nobody needs a multitude of eccentric colorways with dumb nicknames that are being released weekend after weekend. The entire way shoes are being marketed today is no different than the way Beanie Babies were marketed in the 90s. The "Sneaker Game" and being a "Sneaker head" is a fad geared at children with disposable income.... and a hella lame one.

Just like Beanie Babies, trading cards, and all other "collectible" crap industries of yesteryear... The sneaker bubble will also pop. People who think sneakers are somehow exempt from bell curving financials are delusional.

Agreed with all of this. When it dies down, I'll still be here in some capacity. 

 

Lebron 4's >

This. Underrated shoe.

 

The vintage mid sole infrared air max 90 is INSANELY underrated

Nah b... that stuff is lame as hell.


I might cut it some slack if they were cut like the originals.


I'd rather wear my crispy pair and age them myself... pre-aged sneakers are the epitome of corny.

I agree. That pre-aged bull**** irks me to no end. It's a slap in the face of the customer. 

 

[nrg1604]

I don't think the "sneaker bubble" will ever burst.

They said the same thing about baseball cards and comic books. There will always be enthusiasts, but the widespread fervor for this hobby is gonna die out eventually. People will move on to something else and reminisce about their "sneakerhead phase". I personally can't wait.

Also, LeBron 2's>>>>>>>*

Both have common theme, driven by money (resell of shoes and rare cards/comics), oversaturation of products, etc. But key difference is card/comics collectors were still generalized as nerd/geek whereas sneakers have backing of "cool" people in pop culture (even though looking at some of these sneaker convention pics, you could make the same nerd/geek generalized statement). And of course you can't "stunt" on IG with your cards/comics.

 

[bballermarkie]

I don't think the "sneaker bubble" will ever burst.

They said the same thing about baseball cards and comic books. There will always be enthusiasts, but the widespread fervor for this hobby is gonna die out eventually. People will move on to something else and reminisce about their "sneakerhead phase". I personally can't wait.

Also, LeBron 2's>>>>>>>*

Both have common theme, driven by money (resell of shoes and rare cards/comics), oversaturation of products, etc. But key difference is card/comics collectors were still generalized as nerd/geek whereas sneakers have backing of "cool" people in pop culture (even though looking at some of these sneaker convention pics, you could make the same nerd/geek generalized statement). And of course you can't "stunt" on IG with your cards/comics.

Most people that I know who genuinely love sneakers are nerds. I'm a big star wars nerd to go along with my sneaker hobby. I think being a nerd is kinda apart of being this into something that isn't exactly normal

 

[dwileykyot]

^^ I would seriously disagree with that logic.

100% of the people I know that are into shoes are all about looking fresh at all times. Not nerds whatsoever. That doesn't mean you can't have other hobbies or collect other things, but being mostly concerned with clothes, shoes, etc doesn't normally correlate with the "nerd" stereotype in my book. But I'm 30, so I may not truly understand the younger heads that are into shoes these days.

 

[dwileykyot]

Now that I think about it for another minute... What do I know?

I'm posting on a sneaker message board on a Friday night

 

[bballermarkie]

Now that I think about it for another minute... What do I know?

I'm posting on a sneaker message board on a Friday night

Nerd is subjective I may be a nerd but I still have an interest in dressing well and the other friend is around 30 and has a similar mentality.

I think the people that are genuinely passionate about friends tend to be slightly more inclined to it however there is a whole class of people buying every kick cuz they know someone will think it's fresh with limited knowledge.

 

[SC kid]

I would consider myself a sneaker nerd.

Proudly

I hate wen people talk about sneakers like commodities.

 

[yankeesking92]

Just found this thread and I like the concept.
Has anyone else here kind of moved on from jordans and nikes and went other routes to different companies?
I've really gotten into asics and saucony. I have 2 new balance as well. There are some adidas and pumas I like too.
About a year and a half ago I never would have pictured me in a pair of saucony or asics.

 

[currensy]

I have, but yet to own any of my favs from the brands. ZX Did get a pair of ZX Flux and they are dope, feels better with each wear.

Need to get my money right so I can start making my own kicks off NikeID. Pendleton option looks good right now, hope it's for the whole fall/winter.

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[Gordonson]

Is that a mid-cut Air Max 1?

What the ****?

 

[kintan]

A lot of people are surprised when they see me play ball in my 5's 

 

[robpzee612]

I used to ball in my black/metallic 5s.

 

[bballermarkie]

That just doesn't sound practical the only Jordans I've played in are 7, 9, 11, 2010, and a pair of CP3s.

Fives just don't appeal to me for basketball

At least the retros

 

[currensy]

Is that a mid-cut Air Max 1?

What the ****?

Yep lol, that toebox still fudged up too smh.

 

[kintan]

Fives are slippery when I play in a slightly-wet pavement. Same goes for FLTCLB 80's.

 

[nrg1604]

I've balled in retro WC 3 and 4 before, usually cause they're my gym shoes and I go hoop after work out. Definitely needed to replace insole for both.

 

[gry60]

"how much did you pay for them?"

how do you usually respond to that?

 

[bballermarkie]

"how much did you pay for them?"

how do you usually respond to that?

Retail unless it's my girl or an actual friend who's looking for themselves

 

[nrg1604]

Nah the worst is definitely, "what's the lowest you'll take for them?"

 

[allhailmegatron]

Nah the worst is definitely, "what's the lowest you'll take for them?"

Say word!!!!

But I dont like sellers on CL who post no price and just states "offer up" or "taking offers."

 

[Gordonson]

Yep lol, that toebox still fudged up too smh.

I honestly can't remember the last retro Nike hasn't messed the toebox up on. It's crazy

They legit bat like a .001 on getting that right. Those Mid Max I's look incredibly stupid though.

 

[currensy]

Lmao, could've been designed a lot better I agree, also seen a colorway I liked but they over did it adding a shiny check on them. Wish they'd change the shape on forces a little too but ehh.

 

[kintan]

Saw someone sell a sample pair of 18's for $178. Smart move or nah? 

 

[lamekilla]

Saw someone sell a sample pair of 18's for $178. Smart move or nah? 

Not really a question of if it was a smart move or not. 18's are beyond underrated though. Needs a retro