THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

Which team is most overrated? (Pick two)

  • Clippers

  • Celtics

  • Seventy Sixers

  • Bucks

  • Rockets

  • Nuggets

  • Jazz

  • Nets

  • Warriors

  • Pacers


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George Hill was stealing money in Sacramento. Same with Trevor Ariza this past season.
 
Not really. Kawhi should of won it that year but avg a 30 pt triple double, something that essentially had never been done before, and keeping OKC afloat minus Durant was MVP worthy. I’m probably alone in this but that MVP isn’t that bad
It was annoying that they gave it to him but it's not like there was no case at all for him winning it. Pretty much everyone I've talked to about it thought it should've gone to someone else but was ok with russ receiving it. GOAT stat padding season deserves an MVP.
 
It was annoying that they gave it to him but it's not like there was no case at all for him winning it. Pretty much everyone I've talked to about it thought it should've gone to someone else but was ok with russ receiving it. GOAT stat padding season deserves an MVP.

Its almost impossible for someone to get the MVP and not be deserving of it IMO there will always be like three Guys you can build very strong cases for.
 
you did call him the best 2nd fiddle in league history and said he wasn’t that guy though and ima keep it buck with you because you’re my dawg but that’s an awful take :lol:
Is he not though? KD was better than him in basically every facet of basketball. He was the Kobe to KD's Shaq on those teams. It shouldn't be taken as disrespect to him. He was still a huge part of the team's success and is an all-time great. There's a reason why he doesn't have either of those FMVPs though.
 
When do we get to the point where we just acknowledge that both Steph and Lebron are effing phenomenal basketball players?

'No, my guy has to be better! I have to get the other Stans to acknowl'...

... yeah, no.

I don’t even understand what this post says, bro. Only extremes make sense; take this subtlety and nuance stuff elsewhere...


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Is he not though? KD was better than him in basically every facet of basketball. He was the Kobe to KD's Shaq on those teams. It shouldn't be taken as disrespect to him. He was still a huge part of the team's success and is an all-time great. There's a reason why he doesn't have either of those FMVPs though.

Just because he wasn't 'the guy' doesn't mean he can't be 'the guy'
 
That 2018 team was trash.
Jeff Green was the second best player in the playoffs.

Disrespectful to Kevin Love, Kyle Korver too. Especially in the raptors series (best team talent wise/record wise). You get this kind of production out your 2nd all star....and role players...and call it “trash” for a series to get to the ECF.

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They were outmatched in the finals. But any of the East teams would’ve got smoked by the Warriors. Real finals was 2018 WCF.
 
Is he not though? KD was better than him in basically every facet of basketball. He was the Kobe to KD's Shaq on those teams. It shouldn't be taken as disrespect to him. He was still a huge part of the team's success and is an all-time great. There's a reason why he doesn't have either of those FMVPs though.

its disingenuous kind of like saying Kobe was a robin to shaq because shaq has the finals mvps even though Kobe was putting up 30 a game at 21 against the spurs, Kings, etc. it’s like...you can’t watch bean go 48&15 on the kings on the road in a close out game and call him a robin. It’s 1A and 1B. Idk how you watch the Lakers after in 01 or 02 and think Kobe is 2nd fiddle. That’s just me but shaq was better than Kobe so I do get it to a degree

with steph it’s even worse because he was certified as a Batman before KD even got there

the last 4 seasons that the warriors had prior to KD getting there they averaged 59.5 wins, got a chip, two finals appearances and was a 2x mvp with a 73(!) win season to boot. That’s factually what happened. I’m not even gonna get into steph’s numbers during that stretch because you already know what’s good lol

to say that is a robin is insane and borderline trolling especially since it’s not like steph’s production fell off a cliff when KD got there. It’s a terrible take
 
I think the best reply to this is to let you in on thr worst kept secret. LeBron is the GOAT NBA player and I might even call him the GOAT college player if you keep trying me.

Donald E. Rupt up to no good today :lol:

I mean it’s truly head scratching and the ONLY way you could come away with say that steph is a “robin” is that you’re trivializing winning.

mans pushed the nuggets and spurs in his first playoff run

man was the best player on a 51 win team, pushes a really good clipper team to 7 even without bogut, he goes 25&9 that year

runs through the entire league in 14-15 mvp and a title.

wins 73 games historic season goes to a game 7 against the cavs

How is someone with this profile a robin or a 2nd fiddle? Wtf :lol:

People just can't fathom two MVP candidates co-existing in their prime. The same way people can't appreciate that both LeBron and Steph are great, they also can't realize that two Top 3-5 players on the same team can be equals in terms of their impact and ultimately importance to success. The Alpha culture won't allow two Batmans. There always has to be a Robin.

It's the unfortunate reality of 2020 along with the fact that the President of The Untied States is a piece of dog ****. These are just the times we're living in |l
 
I just looked it up and I definitely tweaked saying Jeff Green was the second best player but the roster outside of Bron did perform poorly.

love was the second leading scorer at around 15ppg on sub 40% shooting.

nobody else was in double digits lol
 
its disingenuous kind of like saying Kobe was a robin to shaq because shaq has the finals mvps even though Kobe was putting up 30 a game at 21 against the spurs, Kings, etc. it’s like...you can’t watch bean go 48&15 on the kings on the road in a close out game and call him a robin. It’s 1A and 1B. Idk how you watch the Lakers after in 01 or 02 and think Kobe is 2nd fiddle. That’s just me but shaq was better than Kobe so I do get it to a degree

with steph it’s even worse because he was certified as a Batman before KD even got there

the last 4 seasons that the warriors had prior to KD getting there they averaged 59.5 wins, got a chip, two finals appearances and was a 2x mvp with a 73(!) win season to boot. That’s factually what happened. I’m not even gonna get into steph’s numbers during that stretch because you already know what’s good lol

to say that is a robin is insane and borderline trolling especially since it’s not like steph’s production fell off a cliff when KD got there. It’s a terrible take

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bro, people really don't take into consideration of: 1. the easiest game to steal is game one on the road; 2. the warriors had like 5 week vacation before G1

A few weeks before this...they were DOWN 22 to the Fully healthy spurs WITHOUT KD....and rallied back to beat them by 22



That comeback was happening either way :lol. It was just a matter of time.
 
the 2016 cavs had richard jefferson playing important minutes but they was stacked though

In 2020, Lakers will have Rondo, Dwight, Avery Bradley playing important minutes. Coaches always lean on their veterans.

Love, Kyrie, and Lebron is a very very good team. Second best team Lebron played on.
 
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