THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

storm2006 · Apr 22, 2020

P C H said:
In general though, I do think to a certain degree how Steph is talked about has a bit to do with his appearance. His appearance and his background doesn’t “go” with his production to SOME people,

This is kind of like the Quinn Cook hate that

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wavycrocket said:
Suburban, light skin, seemingly had things handed to him guy....is going to annoy some people.

If we're going to keep it a buck....

pmatic · Apr 22, 2020

Would've been interesting to see Marbury and KG stay together. But that would have been so much money poured into those two for a small market back then.

wavycrocket · Apr 22, 2020

ill steelo said:
The KG playoff stuff was always overblown to me since he came in when Jordan & Malone were still playing & he wasn’t really KG until ‘00, and he didn’t have the horses to compete with either Portland or LA.

‘01 the Lakers are one of the greatest teams ever.

‘02 is a blemish, sure 100%. Swept and soundly outplayed by Dirk. No argument from me.

‘03 & ‘04 eliminated by Shaq Kobe & Phil. ‘05 Spre & Cassell were 35 and lost most of their juice. ‘06 & ‘07 his number 2 was Ricky Davis.

So he never had a real supporting cast to actually do anything of significance in that conference. If he got out the 1st, they would’ve talked about the conference finals like y’all do with Chris Paul

Melo 1st 7 years in the west were brutal too. Win near 50 games....be a 7th or 8th seed...and have to play the spurs or lakers :lol:

DCAllAfrican · Apr 22, 2020

ill steelo said:
So he never had a real supporting cast to actually do anything of significance in that conference. If he got out the 1st, they would’ve talked about the conference finals like y’all do with Chris Paul

sea manup

do work son · Apr 22, 2020

basketball is and always has a been a team game. even the greatest of the greats have fallen short of a title when the sum of their parts was less than the whole of the opposition's. it's why i vehemently disagree with using team accomplishments in a player a vs. player b comp. team accomplishments have their place, but it's overkill when those team accomplishments give someone like draymond enough gas to think he can speak eye to eye with someone like barkley.

addict4sneakers · Apr 22, 2020

The gawd dirk beat the spurs, Mavs, Kings, and lakers.

Levels

DCAllAfrican · Apr 22, 2020

BIG FISH said:
What is this lightskin narrative y’all are pushing? I am fair skinned myself and I don’t mess with Steph that much lol

i also don’t see y’all using that narrative for LaVine, Lonzo, or Trae...

Lavine: Nobody cares about

Lonzo: West Coast, Finesse.

:lol:

You've never heard anyone call Trae soft? You think if Trae looked like Kendrick Nunn THIS would have happened?

rolaholic · Apr 22, 2020

pums said:
You know Damn well Bron and his boys talk about Steph so much

Being part of the Klutch crew,it wouldn't surprise me if Dray joined in from time to time after seeing his recent interviews :lol:

BIG FISH · Apr 22, 2020

I wasn’t trying to be dismissive by asking that btw
But y’all are probably right.. I initially was gonna Steph being from the suburbs played a bigger part but I thought about CP3 who is also from the suburbs and people don’t front on him like that lol

DCAllAfrican · Apr 22, 2020

do work son said:
basketball is and always has a been a team game. even the greatest of the greats have fallen short of a title when the sum of their parts was less than the whole of the opposition's. it's why i vehemently disagree with using team accomplishments in a player a vs. player b comp. team accomplishments have their place, but it's overkill when those team accomplishments give someone like draymond enough gas to think he can speak eye to eye with someone like barkley.

Been screaming this since the beginning of time but unfortunately, this isn't the message the media presents, so the regular human has a hard time understanding this style of thinking.

It ALWAYS has to be, "Player vs. _____."

Well said though

rolaholic · Apr 22, 2020

dcallamerican said:
Lavine: Nobody cares about

Lonzo: West Coast, Finesse.

You've never heard anyone call Trae soft? You think if Trae looked like Kendrick Nunn THIS would have happened?

I mean even Matt Barnes said he would've swung on Trae there after that :lol:

addict4sneakers · Apr 22, 2020

dcallamerican said:
Lavine: Nobody cares about

Lonzo: West Coast, Finesse.

You've never heard anyone call Trae soft? You think if Trae looked like Kendrick Nunn THIS would have happened?

CP3 been nutmegging for years and I don’t think anyone has confronted him

HIM · Apr 22, 2020

BIG FISH said:
I wasn’t trying to be dismissive by asking that btw
But y’all are probably right.. I initially was gonna Steph being from the suburbs played a bigger part but I thought about CP3 who is also from the suburbs and people don’t front on him like that lol

People get things contused. Most of his fans are fans because he is lightskin, suburban, religious, seemingly small etc. Then when they see someone who isn’t a fan of his, they automatically think it’s because he is lightskin, suburban, religious, and seemingly small.

What’s funny is a lot of those same dudes were doubting Luka because he was a white dude from Europe.

BIG FISH · Apr 22, 2020

On the flipside a lot dudes in here downplay how hard it is to come out of tougher environments, even if you have physical gifts.

rolaholic · Apr 22, 2020

addict4sneakers said:
CP3 been nutmegging for years and I don’t think anyone has confronted him

addict4sneakers · Apr 22, 2020

rolaholic said:

Cp3 ate that left and countered though. That was the day I stopped the slander

wavycrocket · Apr 22, 2020

erupt said:
People get things contused. Most of his fans are fans because he is lightskin, suburban, religious, seemingly small etc. Then when they see someone who isn’t a fan of his, they automatically think it’s because he is lightskin, suburban, religious, and seemingly small.

Exactly why I don’t want to have convos like this, here. You have dudes like this...that come along, in THESE type of Black discussions.

Not your place man. Bout to get my Khufu on :lol:

HIM · Apr 22, 2020

addict4sneakers said:
CP3 been nutmegging for years and I don’t think anyone has confronted him

HOU$TON · Apr 22, 2020

Harden averaging 30/8/6 on 61%TS and a 27PER in 8 seasons with Houston :pimp:

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I can’t wait till he finally wins that ring and gets his proper respect.

DCAllAfrican · Apr 22, 2020

erupt said:
People get things contused. Most of his fans are fans because he is lightskin, suburban, religious, seemingly small etc. Then when they see someone who isn’t a fan of his, they automatically think it’s because he is lightskin, suburban, religious, and seemingly small.

What’s funny is a lot of those same dudes were doubting Luka because he was a white dude from Europe.

You have to make it a little less obvious man. Have some tact man. :lol:

SpittaJetLife · Apr 22, 2020

rolaholic said:

CP3 got a good chin. Ate the left like a Scooby snack

rolaholic · Apr 22, 2020

addict4sneakers said:
Cp3 ate that left and countered though. That was the day I stopped the slander

Yea he got the follow up but anytime I get a chance to post that Rondo left hook, I'll take it :rofl:

Know enough dudes around the league were thanking him postgame :lol:

HIM · Apr 22, 2020

wavycrocket said:
Exactly why I don’t want to have convos like this, here. You have dudes like this...that come along, in THESE type of Black discussions.

Not your place man. Bout to get my Khufu on

man, I don’t give a **** what you bout to do. FOH :lol:

DCAllAfrican · Apr 22, 2020

HOU$TON said:
Harden averaging 30/8/6 on 61%TS and a 27PER in 8 seasons with Houston .
I can’t wait till he finally wins that ring and gets his proper respect.

I am rooting for your man. I hope he does something big one day. He too gets a LOT of undeserved hatred from media/fans. His peers seem to respect him though, they know wassup.