THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

[DCAllAfrican]

And you still didn't answer my question. How is not playing more effective and what has taken place during the 4 months of suspension?

You seem to have missed what the original conversation was about.

The argument in FAVOR of continuing the season, from a SOcial Justice POV, was, "Players will have a bigger platform to voice the injustices Black folks face WHILE the NBA Season is going on vs. When players are NOT playing."

If all the attention is on the GAMES, when and where will this new platform afford players a bigger voice to speak on social issues? If anything it pulls their attention away from being able to solely focus on those social issues.

Also, the social justice talk gets drowned out because reporters/press/media will be talking about the GAMES.

When there aren't any games going on, as we saw, more attention can be placed on NON-basketball related content from the players.

Playing, in that Bubble, is a distraction and will not provide players a bigger stage to speak on social issues.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Bruh.. what? If every player in the bubble donated their checks you would say that doesn't count?

Please provide realistic scenarios.

 

[pums]

Disappointed that i havent seen a NBA player who got fat

 

[B Sox]

Is a microphone getting put in front of Jerami Grant where he is able to bring up and draw attention to Breonna Taylor, and that be subsequently aired on ESPN and other platforms to millions of people, if there is no Bubble?

 

[206to813]

Think he gave grades just based on who he liked and who he didn’t. LOL.

That stuff happened so much...I definitely had male teachers who were extra cool with all the hot chicks. Looking back on it, it’s effed up but I chalked it up to life back then

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Is a microphone getting put in front of Jerami Grant where he is able to bring up and draw attention to Breonna Taylor, and that be subsequently aired on ESPN and other platforms to millions of people, if there is no Bubble?

Without a bubble, Jerami Grant can freely discuss BReonna Taylor at any length he chooses. ESPN isn't the only outlet that can cover his words on Black folks business.

If there is no Bubble, there is a better chance that makes ESPN than when the season STARTS. (THe time in which the GAMES will be dominating the headlines).

But like I said, yall still have time to see if this will provide them with a bigger platform.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Also, the social justice talk gets drowned out because reporters/press/media will be talking about the GAMES.

When there aren't any games going on, as we saw, more attention can be placed on NON-basketball related content from the players.

Playing, in that Bubble, is a distraction and will not provide players a bigger stage to speak on social issues.

The season still hasn't resumed. Players have been using their platform to make vlogs and complain about food. Can you provide examples of the non-basketball related content you mentioned? If players are taking the money they earn from the bubble and using it for social issues, that's an effective use of the platform. What exactly would you like to see? Something like Jerami Grant's interview on Breona Taylor? How would sitting out the season be more effective? I'm not against it I just don't see how that would work based on the past 4 months.

Without a bubble, Jerami Grant can freely discuss BReonna Taylor at any length he chooses.

There hasn't been any games since March and this is my first time hearing from Grant

 

[getback]

My 10th grade history class was taught by the varsity basketball coach. We did no work at all. He’d talk to the class about current events for like 5 minutes at the start of each class, then it was do whatever. People played cards, dice, etc.

He gave a couple of tests, but I’m doubtful he actually graded them. Think he gave grades just based on who he liked and who he didn’t. LOL.

My 10th grade English class was similar. The teacher was also acting vice principal so she'd be with us for 10 minutes and then leave us ALONE for the next hour. Mayhem. Lasted that way the entire semester too.

I jumped out the 2nd story window on a dare for $5.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

If players are taking the money they earn from the bubble and using it for social issues, that's an effective use of the platform.

Again, folks were ALREADY donating money BEFORE the Bubble was created.

The conversation was based on things they are able to do INSIDE the Bubble that they couldn't do OUTSIDE the bubble.

Donating money, even if it is from money made in the bubble, is NOT an EXCLUSIVE perk of playing.

Players have been donating money since Late March.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

What exactly would you like to see? Something like Jerami Grant's interview on Breona Taylor? How would sitting out the season be more effective? I'm not against it I just don't see how that would work based on the past 4 months.


There hasn't been any games since March and this is my first time hearing from Grant

When I SEE something they are able to do INSIDE the Bubble that couldn't have been possible OUTSIDE the bubble, I will let you know.

As I said, you have some time before the Season starts back up to see how much Social Justice talk will be pushed once the games start.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Again, folks were ALREADY donating money BEFORE the Bubble was created.

The conversation was based on things they are able to do INSIDE the Bubble that they couldn't do OUTSIDE the bubble.

Donating money, even if it is from money made in the bubble, is NOT an EXCLUSIVE perk of playing.

Players have been donating money since Late March.

I can't have a real discussion with you when you avoid responding to the issues I keep asking you about

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

When I SEE something they are able to do INSIDE the Bubble that couldn't have been possible OUTSIDE the bubble, I will let you know.

Like what? You basically just said they can do the same things whether they play or not. Which has been my stance. I haven't seen anything in the past 4 months to suggest that not playing would be more effective. If it was, I'd be all for it

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Like what? You basically just said they can do the same things whether they play or not

And that is what I have said from the jump.

Playing doesn't provide a bigger platform/stage.

I believe it DISTRACTS the players from being able to focus AS MUCH attention on the promotion of Social Justice.

Playing games doesn't give players more opportunity/time/space to speak on these issues.

 

[B Sox]

I think there is a ZERO PERCENT chance that Jerami Grant gets interviewed by ANYONE where he can discuss his thoughts on Breonna without The Bubble.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I think there is a ZERO PERCENT chance that Jerami Grant gets interviewed by ANYONE where he can discuss his thoughts on Breonna without The Bubble.

*Edit

*My fault thinking of his brother.*

 

[getback]

Sounds as though they can use the "bubble" to attempt to make an impact, based simply on the exposure that isn't occurring right now. How effective that is remains to be seen. Because teams, networks, media, sponsors etc all have to be complicit in how the message is presented.

I get both sides of the discussion, because your own personal philosophy on social justice also matters. Maybe that's the disconnect?

 

[B Sox]

YEa because JErami Grant wasn't signed to an NBA team outside the Bubble.

*My fault thinking of his brother.*

Why would anyone be interviewing Jerami Grant if there was no season?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I think there is a ZERO PERCENT chance that Jerami Grant gets interviewed by ANYONE where he can discuss his thoughts on Breonna without The Bubble.

Why would anyone be interviewing Jerami Grant if there was no season?

But a simple google search proves this wrong.

Black Lives Matter: Jamal Murray, Will Barton III, Jerami Grant Among Nuggets Players Supporting Movement https://www.forbes.com/sites/joelru...layers-speaking-out-for-justice/#56f40dd72449

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Playing games doesn't give players more opportunity/time/space to speak on these issues.

Neither does not playing. So what's your point? Again the season was suspended in March. I didn't see this overwhelming attention placed on social justice for you to say that now that the season is back they'll be distracted. If anything it was a little disappointing.

 

[dmbrhs]

My 10th grade history class was taught by the varsity basketball coach. We did no work at all. He’d talk to the class about current events for like 5 minutes at the start of each class, then it was do whatever. People played cards, dice, etc.

He gave a couple of tests, but I’m doubtful he actually graded them. Think he gave grades just based on who he liked and who he didn’t. LOL.

AP Government (yes, AP) in my high school consisted of sitting on couches and watching movies. All you had to do was write a "blurb" about the movies. If you turned in zero "blurbs", you got a C. I forget how many you had to do to get an A or a B, but I just remember that part. One day, the school went through an accreditation review. The teacher printed up "worksheets" for us so we could fake having a discussion. The auditors happened to come in the room when I was in class. They left and we went right back to watching a movie.

Here's the best part: the school had pretty much had it with this guy by the time I was a senior, so they decided to ban couches in order to force him to have a traditional classroom set up. The only way they could justify it is because they were considered unsanitary, as they were never cleaned. So, the teacher launched a "Couch Club" and sold t-shirts, with proceeds going to professional cleaning of all his couches. He ended up selling hundreds of tees, raised the money almost overnight, and cleaned his couches.

 

[MVP]

I lean BI over Bam slightly because
1. It's harder to make the AS team in the West than the East
2. Basically got the same amount of minutes from last season but jumped in production in every category (where as Bam Is playing 12 more minutes a game)
3. There was the prevailing thought by most that he was going to fall off
4. From jump went to that Pels squad and became the guy in Zion's absence

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Neither does not playing. So what's your point? Again the season was suspended in March. I didn't see this overwhelming attention placed on social justice for you to say that now that the season is back they'll be distracted. If anything it was a little disappointing.

You have no idea what you are talking about because THIS conversation was had AS SOON AS there was any inclination that the season would start back up.

This conversation was had IN HERE by me and MANY others, for multiple days/pages.

So you don't know what you are talking about with saying that.

 

[pums]

You could argue that Bam is the best player on a playoff team.

BI’s team was losing most of the year till he took a back seat to Zion

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

You have no idea what you are talking about because THIS conversation was had AS SOON AS there was any inclination that they season would start back up.

This conversation was had IN HERE by me and MANY others, for multiple days/pages.

So you don't know what you are talking about with saying that.

Honestly I don't know what YOU are talking about or trying to say. I asked you to give examples of what players have done re: social justice since March. And now you're saying the players won't be able to focus on it as much anymore and saying donating bubble checks doesn't count. Briefly, summarize exactly what your stance is for me if you don't mind.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I asked you to give examples of what players have done re: social justice since March.

Since MArch? Are you seriously asking me this question??

Just GOogle it. Players have done A LOT since March and before going into the Bubble.

Google it, I am not doing that easy assignment for you.

DOZENS of examples will come up. Pick whichever one you want.