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**THEEE Official Washington ******** Offseason Thread** Throwbacks unveiled pg. 21...DreC. approves
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Shanny has Keiland working at fullback this year. Hopefully the RB situatuin looks like this:
Torain
Helu
Hightower
With Young and Williams as the FB's. Mike Sellars needs to be cut.
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Here's a really good read from a poster on ExtremeSkins regarding the job Bruce and Shanny have done so far...
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Checking in... #GoSkins
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Aren't they trying to use Sellers @ TE?
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I want to believe most of that qoute, flightman, at the sametime ES has/is notorious for putting a positive slant on things that were obviously crap in the past.
...as for BB, damn shame if he's going around acting like he's a superstar but DAMNED if they release him for he can turn around, go to a divison rival and give us hell down the road
but coach shanahan would do it since it's his way or the highway :/
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I don't like the Hightower move just because I was really looking forward to what Helu could do. I had a feeling that he could be a great back in Shanny's system. Maybe he'll still get his shot, who knows.
I'm really hoping for Andrew Luck though
I'm really hoping for Andrew Luck though
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From everything that I've been reading, Jarvis Jenkins has been DESTROYING everyone out there....
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To all you Skins fans out there grab the Express today and turn to page 11 when you get a chance.
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Yea I wanna see Helu get a shot too. I got a feeling he can be a big playmaker. If he performs well in the preseason he should get his shot.
I am excited to see what atogwe brings to the table. Anything is better than Reed tho.
I am excited to see what atogwe brings to the table. Anything is better than Reed tho.
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I know dude who stabbed Banks. Banks popped off, jumped my mans, then got his lil !*% poked up.
Banks was at times electric last year but he's easily replaceable.
Banks was at times electric last year but he's easily replaceable.
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What did it say?
sequan
Banned
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Buchanon suspended for first four games?
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“Oh, man,
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This "no fans came to watch them practice" thing is no surprise.
There is nothing to be excited about this year for us. No big FA signing like usual. No high expectations, like us loyal fans have every year. We all know John Beck is not the answer. Our WR core is old and little. Our running back had one good year...will prob struggle this year...sophomore slump more tape on him to watch. Athough i have faith in mike shanahan's scheme and i think Torrain will be fine. Over 1k yrds. I really like Tim Hightower and think he will help us out.
Not to mention our Defense was in the bottom 5 in almost all important categories last year....so add that with our offensive problems....and our impossible division....im saying 5 wins all year.
There is nothing to be excited about this year for us. No big FA signing like usual. No high expectations, like us loyal fans have every year. We all know John Beck is not the answer. Our WR core is old and little. Our running back had one good year...will prob struggle this year...sophomore slump more tape on him to watch. Athough i have faith in mike shanahan's scheme and i think Torrain will be fine. Over 1k yrds. I really like Tim Hightower and think he will help us out.
Not to mention our Defense was in the bottom 5 in almost all important categories last year....so add that with our offensive problems....and our impossible division....im saying 5 wins all year.
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Sad time to be a Skins fan.. fur rill.
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Folks over in the DMV Section don't seem to know what the hell they want...one hand they want to kinda rebuild but want us to pick up bums hoping they are the difference in doing something this season. Season is a lost cause barring a miracle. (ie, Beck actually being good.) Just want to see the young guys perform and the defense start to gel for this season. *Shrug*
PS : Beck changed his number to #12. Kelly to #14 and Shayne Graham has #5. I don't expect Graham to beat out Gano though.
PS : Beck changed his number to #12. Kelly to #14 and Shayne Graham has #5. I don't expect Graham to beat out Gano though.
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I'm 100% fine w. the rebuilding effort that's going on....this was an OLD team for the past couple of seasons and didn't get the results that Snyder & Co. hoped. This is the first time that I can remember that there is an actual youth movement on the roster. This is a GOOD thing! Let the young guys develop and take their lumps this season. Use teams like the 2009 Bucs as a blueprint as far as how to build the roster while trending upwards. 7 wins is overly optimistic....4-5 wins is most likely going to be the reality. The latter will get us in a great spot to land Luck/Barkley/Jones. Get your franchise QB in 2012 and keep adding pieces. One day it will all pay off.
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For me its just has a different feel than the last few years. Like it or not we are rebuilding. We are trying to get younger that's a good sign.
Hopefully some of these players workout.
My thing is we went 6-10 last year and I can name atleast 3 games that we should have won. Things go right we 9-7 Mcnabb played horrible last season. Yea the line was bad. But at times his feet was set missing open WRs throwing at their feet and #%%!.
I don't know what's going to happen but I'm not gonna kill it before the first preseason game.
Hopefully some of these players workout.
My thing is we went 6-10 last year and I can name atleast 3 games that we should have won. Things go right we 9-7 Mcnabb played horrible last season. Yea the line was bad. But at times his feet was set missing open WRs throwing at their feet and #%%!.
I don't know what's going to happen but I'm not gonna kill it before the first preseason game.
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That's pretty much the 49ers mentality right now. Some how some way I just hope we get Andrew Luck, that would be such an ideal fit. Switching gears though back to the article in the Express I'm really surprised to see the lack of fan support this year. I was talking to my boy who is a long time Skins fans that got rid of his season tickets 2 years ago because he didn't want to support Synder anymore. I was just chopping it up to him about the low fan turnout at Skins camp and he's all for it as well. Like I said earlier, when I went to Fed Ex last week to see the Manchester and Barcelona game I couldn't believe that they took 10,000 seats out of Fed Ex., granted they were all noose-bleed seats but the stadium just looked different and strange with that gap in the upper bowl. All these years all the media and Skins organization have told us about this long season-ticket wait list and now it appears that list is completely gone with fans not wanting to purchase tickets.
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Every year when training camp starts, it's a damn circus. There is ALWAYS some huge FA signing and thus it begins...the usual cycle of playoff-talk, only to be let down by the reality of how poorly constructed the actual team is. This is the first year in a long time I can remember that the Skins aren't the offseason "champs." This is a good thing. For as poorly as Shanahan has handled guys like McNabb/Haynesworth, I can't say I'm too disappointed in how they accumulated draft picks (not trading away) and had some quality low-key FA signings. Those FA signings, aren't the big-splash like we've seen in years past, but rather guys who can be solid contributors and not create any unnecessary drama because of a bloated contract or something else.
I'm totally fine w. this team winning around 4-5 games. That's what I honestly think is the ceiling for the 2011-12 Skins team. Anything more than that would be a bonus. All I want is more youth on the roster and depth. That seems to be the direction the team is headed in. It's been long overdue, but the previous method of trying to BUY championships just wasn't working. This is the way to build a team. There are going to be PLENTY of bumps in the road, but as long as this team plays hard and shows somewhat of a pulse, I think most Skins fans would be fine with whatever the record.
The sparse crowds are a sign of a couple of things IMO. 1) Folks are tired of Snyder and how he has come close to ruining a once proud franchise. 2) No big FA acquisitions or players brought in via trade. Like the Junkies said today, if the team went out and signed Nnamdi, Ochocinco, or traded for Palmer...the crowds would be there. I have to agree. No one is going to sit out in 95+ degree heat to watch Anthony Armstrong drop balls or John Beck throw ducks. It's not happening.
The only thing that Snyder and Co. can do to get folks back out in Ashburn is to put a winning product on the field. Like I said, it will come in due time. I think most Skins fans can agree that they do like the direction of the team. Yea, they're at the bottom and the only way to go is up....but it's a different vibe/feeling because of how the team is starting to be constructed.
2012 is gonna be huge. I think we're gonna roll w. Beck/Grossman for this year and end up w. a top-10 pick. That pick (I'd almost guarantee) will be spent on a QB. Luck, Barkley, Jones, etc....whoever Shanahan feels will be the franchise QB for the next decade WILL be selected next year barring a miracle season from Beck (which I think none of us believe is happening
*As far as your 49ers...wow, I don't know what the $%!$ yall are doing out there
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For as poorly as Shanahan has handled guys like McNabb/Haynesworth, I can't say I'm too disappointed in how they accumulated draft picks (not trading away) and had some quality low-key FA signings
Personally, I think no FA really wanted to come to DC given the way McNabb and Haynesworth were treated by Shanahan last year (be it right or wrong). I think the Skins had no choice but to go the draft pick route this year at least. Meaning, if you were a free agent this year with the way Shanahan was so critical of McNabb and Haynesworth and seeing how neither of those guys are really known as character issues on and off the field you would have to second guess the way they were treated by the coach during the season. It's like somebody signing up to work for a company that is known to have a bad boss running it or from the perception that is seen on the outside by new potential employees, why would you want to put yourself in that position.
No one is going to sit out in 95+ degree heat to watch Anthony Armstrong drop balls or John Beck throw ducks. It's not happening.
That's an excellent point champ. There are really no BIG names to draw the crowds out there to go and see.
Off subject, what's Patrick Willis' contract looking like? Do you fear losing him at some point?
I'm not sure what his contract is looking like, meaning how many years we still have him on contract but I'll look it up. I'm not worried about losing him at all this season or next season unless we don't land a high draft pick in order to get Luck or Barkley. However, for the long-run of the organization I can see the 49ers using him as bait to trade up to get that draft pick they want to get Luck or Barkley. Although I would NEVER want to see Willis play elsewhere or go elsewhere I can see how the front office would want to do anything to get us in a better position to win more games in the future and turn this franchise back around and that starts with having a good QB.
The only way I see Willis leaving or asking to leave is if we stink it up for the next 2 years, so meaning on year 3 he would probably want to leave, and I can't see that I would blame him.
Edit--DoubleJ's, Patrick Willis contract is 5 years for 50 million which was signed in 2010. So after 3 years, which is the same timeframe that I guessed at earlier I'm sure both sides will review things that the 49ers have or haven't done at the point and go from there.
Umm...
In my statement I said "neither guys are REALLY known" meaning on a consistent basis or having more than just 1 occurence. I'm not saying both those guys are angels, but if all you or the public got on Albert is a video clip of him kicking somebody on the ground it's going to have to be a little bit more than that champ for people to actually say Albert has character issues, prior to his stint with the Skins of course. One mishap doesn't determine a person's career or character depending on the situation.
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Personally, I think no FA really wanted to come to DC given the way McNabb and Haynesworth were treated by Shanahan last year (be it right or wrong). I think the Skins had no choice but to go the draft pick route this year at least. Meaning, if you were a free agent this year with the way Shanahan was so critical of McNabb and Haynesworth and seeing how neither of those guys are really known as character issues on and off the field you would have to second guess the way they were treated by the coach during the season. It's like somebody signing up to work for a company that is known to have a bad boss running it or from the perception that is seen on the outside by new potential employees, why would you want to put yourself in that position.
You might be right on that...at least for this year. In years past, folks would put money ahead of their own happiness. This is why Washington would routinely land big-time FAs, only to have them sour on the organization in one way or another.
Dudes in the NFL (if they consider coming to DC) have to see that the entire culture of the organization has changed before they sign here. If they see guys like Bowen and Cofield get good money, but also see that 1) they're happy 2) team is headed in the right direction, future FAs might not be so reluctant to sign a contract to play for the Skins.
FWIW, Haynesworth had some major red-flags (off the field) before he came to DC...McNabb, not so much....
