UNDENIABLE Hip Hop Classic Albums (NO skips)/Albums considered Classic that aren't

[greezee]

Why do people keep saying The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is a hip hop album? It's not.

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Son said Outkast has no classics. Put Lupe & Canibus in Tier 1. I'm out

 

[va757va]

Fam put canibus, lupe nd mos def above tupac nd big? Lol...

Outkast has no classics? 3k overrated?

Blueprint, reasonable doubt, life after death, all not classics?!? LIFE AFTER DEATH NOT A CLASSIC!?!

Were all entitled to our opinions but.....
Op u have zero.credibility from me for those statements alone...

 

[feedtheego1982]

Not putting Black Thought up there for lyrics is a fail.. 

Lupe has no business in a top 5, 10, or 20 debate..  IMO of course.

All of these artists have had their fair share of strong and weak moments..  But I think Common has had the most consistent run as an artist.  I sort of agree with what was said about Andre, but when he sits down and is straight rhyming, without the gimmicks..  There are few that can beat him.

I like Kanye for the most part, but he is not a true lyricist..  There have been very few times Kanye has wowed me with a verse, but he carried Jay on WTT IMO

 

[Peep Game]

Originally Posted by Greezee

Why do people keep saying The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is a hip hop album? It's not.

Same people who called Take Care a classic.

 

[i live in texas]

 @ Mexican rappers being at the bottom tier. Unfortunately, you have a point. Except Grimm could be considered the only exception, son was talented before he switched up his whole style copying Chingo Bling.
And Outkast having no classics is the dumbest %++# I've ever read.

 

[dior paint]

Hip Hop Elitists are really just undercover trolls at the end of the day

 

[illphillip]

Originally Posted by Greezee

Why do people keep saying The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is a hip hop album? It's not.

It's a Hip Hop album. Not a RAP album though.

I consider Main Source "Breaking Atoms" a classic.

 

[sooperhooper]

Oh another "what's your favorite hip hop album" thread in disguise.
No point in arguing over this stuff, it's all opinion. Like arguing over top 10 hottest women.

 

[AZwildcats]

Me against the world
All eyes on me
Both dr dre albums
Illmatic



These are the only albums I don't skip a track on. There are other albums I consider classics, but they have tracks I skip




And why doesn't graduation get more love? I thought it was a very good album

 

[cyber smoke]

Originally Posted by heelish

any Outkast album - Most overrated duo ever, also most overrated rapper ever with Andre 3000. The South is just grasping to have that "lyricist" so they run with 3000 as their man. They tried the same sh*t with Lil Wayne when he jacked Dipset's style in the mid 2000's

 Disgraceful sh*t.

 

[twozerosix]

Originally Posted by il prescelto

Originally Posted by heelish

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius

^ Jigga That _ gets skipped every time.


This dude just said 3000 is the most overrated rapper ever. You serious???

Dead @ss serious. Dudes think he's a main eventer but he's a midcarder. He's Road Dogg status, Big Boi is Billy Gunn. Good tag team but not solo. I can't think of a rapper more overrated than him besides Jay-Z/Eminem but that's ONLY because they're considered the GOAT, when really they're not. Both are top 15 though. 3K isn't even top 20. We can break it down further:
Tier 0

Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem, Rakim, Kane, GZA, KRS, Lupe, Pun, Mos Def, Canibus




Tier 1

Tupac, Biggie, Ice Cube, Ghostface, Slick Rick, Scarface, AZ, Lord Finesse, Kool G Rap




Tier 2

Kanye, Raekwon, Andre 3000, DMX, LL Cool J, Beanie Sigel, 50, Cam




Tier 3

Snoop Dogg, Lil Wayne, Twista, Mystikal, Nelly, Jeezy, Ross, Young Buck, Ja Rule




Tier 4

E-40, Silkk The Shocker, Lil B, Gucci Mane, Lil Boosie, Soulja Boi, Plies, Mac Dre, Mexican rappers

JordanFan04 wrote:

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Rae borderline MK/U-God status? FOH. 

Nah hear me out. GZA, Ghost, Deck, & Meth are better than Raekwon. You can't count RZA since he's a producer first, rapper second. So really, Rae is better than ODB, MK, & U-God. So he's borderline.

Millzhouse719 wrote:

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I was about to come bash you about "Braveheart Party", but did my research and realized he took it off his later version of the album. Nas must of known that song was garbage 

; do not want to even listen to it and curse my pov of Stillmatic.

Unfortunately, it still happened, I bought that version. 

 You're a lucky one, don't ever listen to it. It's worse than his Ginuwine collabo

Mac Dre > your life.





qft

 

[checks mcgee]

son said reasonable doubt isn't a classic.........................

opinion. invalid.

 

[ham city]

OP you are me at 17.

Eventually you'll come full circle and be rockin a Gucci avy.

 

[crime wave]

Crying at NT's methods of identifying hip-hop classics 

 

[ajmasta]

My personal UNDENIABLE Hip-Hop classics:

Top 10 (Flawless Classics. It's not even a matter of opinion for these, it's a matter of fact)

Nas-Illmatic
Outkast-Aquemini
Jay-Z-Blueprint
Notorious B.I.G.-Ready To Die
Scarface-The Fix
A Tribe Called Quest-The Low End Theory
Dr.Dre-The Chronic
Snoop Dogg-Doggystyle
Wu Tang Clan-36 Chambers
Raeqwon-Only Buily 4 Cuban Linx

Honorable Mentions (Arguable for some)

Mobb Deep-The Infamous
Notorious B.I.G.-Life After Death
2pac-All Eyez On Me
2pac-Me Against The World
Ice Cube-Death Certificate
Eric B. & Rakim-Paid In Full
Jay-Z-Reasonable Doubt
A Tribe Called Quest-Midnight Marauders
Dr.Dre-2001
Outkast-ATLiens
Bun B-Trill OG

Just Because I love these albums

Kanye West-My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Kanye West-Late Registration
Eminem-Marshall Mathers LP
50 Cent-Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
Nas-Stillmatic
Jay-Z-Black Album
Jay-Z & Kanye West-Watch The Throne
Scarface-The Diary
Common-Be
Lupe Fiasco-The Cool

 

[stevesofresh]

Originally Posted by jm2000

*Master Troll level unlocked*

 

[sparklecity sc]

I'm just leaving this here....OUTKAST HAS THE MOST SOLID CATALOG FRONT TO BACK!!!!

 

[ninjahood]

Originally Posted by heelish

By "undeniable" I mean there is NO SKIPPING tracks (skits/intros that aren't songs don't count). 

Ghostface - Supreme Clientele: find myself listening to this more than Ironman



Ironman - call me crazy but I always hated Daytona 500

other then not calling jay-z's first album not classic (you smoking paint chips) how do you not like daytona 500 and turn around and co-sign



let's not get it twisted, i love this joint now...but it had to grow on me HARD

 

[soundnfury]

food and liquor is a classic.
sunshine is the only skip worthy song. but i dont give a %*%%

 

[debso]

wu tang forever is a classic. nobody can tell me otherwise.

and rae is ILL. lol @ him being u god status.

@ninjahood: na, song was ill the first time i heard it. the beat is crazy. wish it didn't end suddenly tho. shoulda let the beat play more.

 

[D StaXX]

Originally Posted by heelish

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius

^ Jigga That _ gets skipped every time.


This dude just said 3000 is the most overrated rapper ever. You serious???

Dead @ss serious. Dudes think he's a main eventer but he's a midcarder. He's Road Dogg status, Big Boi is Billy Gunn. Good tag team but not solo. I can't think of a rapper more overrated than him besides Jay-Z/Eminem but that's ONLY because they're considered the GOAT, when really they're not. Both are top 15 though. 3K isn't even top 20. We can break it down further:
Tier 0

Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem, Rakim, Kane, GZA, KRS, Lupe, Pun, Mos Def, Canibus




Tier 1

Tupac, Biggie, Ice Cube, Ghostface, Slick Rick, Scarface, AZ, Lord Finesse, Kool G Rap




Tier 2

Kanye, Raekwon, Andre 3000, DMX, LL Cool J, Beanie Sigel, 50, Cam




Tier 3

Snoop Dogg, Lil Wayne, Twista, Mystikal, Nelly, Jeezy, Ross, Young Buck, Ja Rule




Tier 4

E-40, Silkk The Shocker, Lil B, Gucci Mane, Lil Boosie, Soulja Boi, Plies, Mac Dre, Mexican rappers

 

[heelish]

LOL @ "troll". There are lots of people that don't get the thread. This is STRICTLY for rap albums that have NO SKIPPABLE songs. How hard is this thread to follow?

Out of the albums I've listed, only 7 are in my favorite albums. You can have classic albums that have skips but that's not what this topic is about. For example, I listen to 2001, GRODT, Hell On Earth, Street's Disciple, & American Gangster more than most of the CD's I put up. Do I skip some songs on those albums? Hell yeah, but I still love them.

Look, there is NO WAY Canibus is better than BIG or Tupac. Those rankings are based on technical rapping skills, to prove why I called Andre 3000 the Road Dogg of rap.
I'd consider Immortal Technique a Tier 0 rapper but the dude is straight trash for the most part, he wouldn't even crack my top 100.
Three 6 Mafia & Project Pat are Lil Boosie status when it comes to rapping but they have classic tracks out the a*ss.
When it comes down to it, there are only THREE actual rap ARTISTS, and they are Tupac, Nas, & Kanye West. 'Ye & Pac aren't "lyrical" like Pun or Jay but their music is timeless.
All 3 are in different tier spots so the rankings don't mean sh*t when it comes to the top spots. There is a difference between best & favorite, like I said, it's all opinion.

Life After Death can be a classic to you, that's cool and all... but it has Biggie's worst three songs on the 2nd disc, how can anyone co-sign those songs?

Lupe Fiasco lost ALL hope in being top anything, he was on a roll based off the strength of his mixtapes & first 2 albums. Don't know why he f*cked it up for himself. Still the best rapper from the 2000's.

Mac Dre is just like Souljah Slim & Slim Dunkin. Trash when they were alive & s*cked off when they died. That's some demonic sh*t.

I love Outkast, I really do. I'd consider all their albums minus Speakerboxxx classics to near-classic, but they all have songs I skip over. Therefore, those albums don't count when it comes to this thread. I swear some of you are dense as hell. 3K is still the most overrated, followed by Jigga, and Jay is top 5.

And Black Thought is definitely Tier 0, can't believe I forgot him. That does not make him top 10 or anything. The Roots are a top 10 group though.

How can ANYONE co-sign trash like "Ain't No N*gga" off RD?!? Are you guys kidding me?

Agreed about Common. Him, Tupac, & Nas have the best overall discography in hip-hop history.

 

[il prescelto]

Originally Posted by heelish


Mac Dre is just like Souljah Slim & Slim Dunkin. Trash when they were alive & s*cked off when they died. That's some demonic sh*t.

. Just stop. Have you even listened to all of Mac Dre's albums? Young Black Brotha and 15 Years Deep are easily classics with no skippable tracks, I can listen to both in their entirety and do so often. And that's just the young Mac Dre; that's not even getting into his later stuff and the hyphy/thizz movement.

I'm not saying he would fit in what you call "tier 0", but he's definitely not a "tier 4" artist, and definitely wasn't "trash" when he was alive...

I'd argue his work fits in your list of hip hop classic albums, but that's my personal preference.

 

[kicksboywonder]

Originally Posted by sparklecity SC

I'm just leaving this here....OUTKAST HAS THE MOST SOLID CATALOG FRONT TO BACK!!!!