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Either way, i don't know what to believe or not to believe.
But tomorrow, I'm gonna try to go and cop that book.
But tomorrow, I'm gonna try to go and cop that book.
*VIDEO On to the Next One VIDEO* Vol. Weird
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This is the best thing I've heard from Kanye in a long time. If he can make anything with half the social consciousness of a Gil Scott Heron track, I'll be more than happy. Also worth noting is the second part of the paragraph, where he pretty much goes against hidden agendas and propaganda we see all too often in our society. Interesting...Originally Posted by LESfamilia
I predict a career decline if he keeps this %+!! up, word to MJ.
That's really what I was gettin at, but in a more sarcastic manner.
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horrible execution of that gif...
and Redman...WOW
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That's really what I was gettin at, but in a more sarcastic manner.Originally Posted by CROSSISOM
This is the best thing I've heard from Kanye in a long time. If he can make anything with half the social consciousness of a Gil Scott Heron track, I'll be more than happy. Also worth noting is the second part of the paragraph, where he pretty much goes against hidden agendas and propaganda we see all too often in our society. Interesting...Originally Posted by LESfamilia
I predict a career decline if he keeps this %+!! up, word to MJ.
It's all good.
But really, the more I think about it, with Jay doing his thing elsewhere, this only makes Kanye a bigger priority at Def Jam. Occult forces at work or not,I'm willing to bet they'll do everything in their power not to let his next project fail, if it ever had to anyway. They simply can't afford tolet that happen, IMO.
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u know the book is posted on the last page.
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Here's the thing, I dont know whats going on with Jay. All I know is that this video was beyond weird/creepy, therefore I dont like it. And to be frank,Jay has been declining as a rapper for a LONG time. More reason for me to finally Divorce Jay as my favorite rapper....Good riddens!
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its kinda ironic u being a Alpha somebody on the outside looking in could say alpha's symbols, rituals are weird/creepy.
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i am now 4 minutes and 15 seconds dumber for watching that
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Come on son don't be moronic. The reason you don't see me trying to disapprove anything is because speaking on speculation is called ignorance. No onein this thread can neither prove nor disapprove the claim that Jay is a mason. Me speaking on it is similar to speaking on 9/11 being an inside job... justpure speculation bordering on propaganda. Dropping knowledge lol, son how are you able to differentiate what's being posted as fact or fiction? Your beingshown a 2nd hand perspective on occult/symbolism, Haze I'm sure isn't in a secret society nor follows an occult so what he's learned isn't froma firsthand account. Yes this subject brings intrigue and is fascinating to most but at the end of the day its not fact based so why warp yourself aroundsomething that provides half truths. I'm just amazed at how Jay went from being simplistic compared to some of his peers to now being the most intricaterapper with a mastery of symbolism. What happened to him not being as deep as Nas. Now his rhymes got people deciphering his lyrics like its ancienthieroglyphics. Maybe some of y'all need to put more energy into more thoughtful thinking instead of thinking ur intellectuals because you over-analyze somelyrics. Read some real philosophical books on your own, it shouldn't take a rapper for cats to expand their mind. All the Socrates in this thread probablynever took any type of philosophy course. It's good to have an affinity to attain knowledge but not all knowledge is useful. Btw Haze u been here longenough to know I speak to people directly if I have a qualm. No sneak dissing because when I clearly was referring to you I either addressed you or said yourname. I definitely respect your mind from past posts in general but just don't see eye to eye on this topic. I double major in political science btw
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yo i read an intro lecture on metaphysics and it def
my mind. Kindaraises more questions than it answers but it def opens ur mind as well. Bout to skim through that ancient future joint brb
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Good luck getting your money back...especially after that ******ed paragraph I just stumbled through
seriously...if you know ANYTHING about FILM or VISUAL ARTS... ANYTHING....
why would someone include "random" images in something that costs them MILLIONS of dollars?
Just RANDOM...think about it.
That whole tome you just composed? you're describing the person you want to ostracize.
You're running from whats in front of you. Have fun on the treadmill...we're waiting off to the side for you.
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ummm ok the discussion about the video is going like wayyyy out there, and ireally dont care lol.
all i would like to know is what kind of jacket he was wearing in the video lol....
PLEASE HELP....
all i would like to know is what kind of jacket he was wearing in the video lol....
PLEASE HELP....
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I gotta say that I find it funny to see people so quick to dismiss the possibility of a hidden agenda/message with this video, and everything else for thatmatter.
Anything is possible. For me the old adage rings true: where there's smoke, there's fire. I won't say that Jay is a Freemason or a part of aSatanic cult or whatever--those are just sensationalized buzz words people use to evoke the worst possible image. But there is definitely more to this thanjust a weird video. As mentioned, why place random symbols in your video? To just go along with the rumors and ham it up for the conspiracy theorists? Forsome reason I can't buy that.
And it isn't like this is the only incident with Jay that has brought speculation. Could all of these incidents just be huge coincidences? Sure. But Ihave a hard time believing they are and I can't see how anyone can definitively say its all just innocent. On the flipside, I can't see any reason todefinitively deduct that Jay is an occultist or a Mason, either. But as corny as it sounds, there is more than meets the eye. There usually is in life--andthe entertainment/media industry is no different. And one thing that those who a part of the entertainment/media industry have gotten REALLY good at is makingsomething so blatant that it becomes unbelievable.
Anything is possible. For me the old adage rings true: where there's smoke, there's fire. I won't say that Jay is a Freemason or a part of aSatanic cult or whatever--those are just sensationalized buzz words people use to evoke the worst possible image. But there is definitely more to this thanjust a weird video. As mentioned, why place random symbols in your video? To just go along with the rumors and ham it up for the conspiracy theorists? Forsome reason I can't buy that.
And it isn't like this is the only incident with Jay that has brought speculation. Could all of these incidents just be huge coincidences? Sure. But Ihave a hard time believing they are and I can't see how anyone can definitively say its all just innocent. On the flipside, I can't see any reason todefinitively deduct that Jay is an occultist or a Mason, either. But as corny as it sounds, there is more than meets the eye. There usually is in life--andthe entertainment/media industry is no different. And one thing that those who a part of the entertainment/media industry have gotten REALLY good at is makingsomething so blatant that it becomes unbelievable.
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as far as the video goes.....i believe there are no such things as coincidences
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this thread wouldnt have went past the first two pages if it was your average baller/rapper music video. maybe thats what jay wanted, to get yall talking abouthim again.
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son don't come through here with something that could make logical sense... this is a speculative thread.
Good luck getting your money back...especially after that ******ed paragraph I just stumbled through
seriously...if you know ANYTHING about FILM or VISUAL ARTS... ANYTHING....
why would someone include "random" images in something that costs them MILLIONS of dollars?
Just RANDOM...think about it.
That whole tome you just composed? you're describing the person you want to ostracize.
You're running from whats in front of you. Have fun on the treadmill...we're waiting off to the side for you.
Son do you work for ROC Nation... do you know what the budgetary expenses were for the video? Cost millions of dollars? Do you know that someartists don't even pay for their videos, especially when they market big name items ie Jag in the video. Like my grandma would say yall know so much butknow so LITTLE. I didn't even think you were knowledgable about ANYTHING outside of Drake. I sure will have fun with getting a legitimate education whilepeons sit an analize rap videos thinking their "deep" or "ahead of the curve" I guess finding out Jay-z is a mason will somehow open thedoors to a successful career that will provide for you & your family.
Now cats are visual arts experts... boy yall NTers are a jack of all trades. Lemme guess you learned aboutvisual arts from watching the making of Transformers.
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Answer your own question my @@$%+. What about everything YOU consider fact right now? Is that fiction? I don't think they're gonna give you the answer to that one in your political science courses.
I feel what Ye is getting at though. I feel like we're gaining more control over the substance in our culture. Who the hell needs MTV to play their music video these days? Who the hell needs a 106? Being black we all ways here about how we need independence and entrepreneurship; well I feel like we have an opportunity to seize it and stop letting these business people ruin our artistic mediums for their financial gain.
I'd share a joint with you for this one king.
We got the world in our palms yet we fail to look towards ourselves for leadership.
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Answer your own question my @@$%+. What about everything YOU consider fact right now? Is that fiction? I don't think they're gonna give you the answer to that one in your political science courses.
I feel what Ye is getting at though. I feel like we're gaining more control over the substance in our culture. Who the hell needs MTV to play their music video these days? Who the hell needs a 106? Being black we all ways here about how we need independence and entrepreneurship; well I feel like we have an opportunity to seize it and stop letting these business people ruin our artistic mediums for their financial gain.
Huh?? I brought up me majoring in Political Science because Haze asked why Im always talking politics in General, that wasn't in reference tothis topic.
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Every thing you need to know about my fraternity are of public record. Nothing subliminal about ours, or any other member of the Divine 9 forthat matter. In fact, wiki has a GOOD page on us, check us out
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Why dudes still talking about devil worship & masonic images?
The thread was headed in a better direction.....
The thread was headed in a better direction.....
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Point out where I said that anywhere in my post. I'll wait.....
Can you prove to me that your mother is in fact your mother from a FIRST HAND ACCOUNT as you like to put it? You see wher I'm going?
No honestly I didn't see where your going because that was quite possibly the dumbest example you could use to rebut what I said.
Ohhhhhh!!! So is THAT what it takes in order for people to speak on a subject? Formal institutionalized education is what we need? Ooookaaay... I'm anxious to see your response.
Nope but it brings about the foundation for people to start expanding their mind. Question for the majority of your life until now how were you educated? self thought or American school system.
@ your avy compared to your posts.
But seriously i see where your coming from, but it's all in your presentation. You bring your thoughts to the table on some "holier than thou"type !%$$, dudes would respect your mind more if you would discuss instead of argue.
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