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They don't buy the cds for good. Consignment
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You heard? From who exactly?
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You're in a thread talking about artist revenue streams in 2014 and you're seriously talking about albums and CD's?
OK
OK
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You're in a thread talking about artist revenue streams in 2014 and you're seriously talking about albums and CD's?
OK
When I say that I thought you smart enough to know I mean digital albums sold, amazon sell alot, best buy sell alot etc. All sales
All sales are tracked by the barcode, digital downloads tracked as well and riaa
When a artists sell iTunes or anywhere it's all tracked
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You're in a thread talking about artist revenue streams in 2014 and you're seriously talking about albums and CD's?
OK
When I say that I thought you smart enough to know I mean digital albums sold, amazon sell alot, best buy sell alot etc. All sales
All sales are tracked by the barcode, digital downloads tracked as well and riaa
Oh word? So when you said this....
Word?
You were talking about digital albums? iTunes pays "wholesale price" for an album?
No.....they take a PERCENTAGE.
Boy stop it. You're talking in circles. Even using the term "barcode", you're talking about physical.
So you're talking about the wrong thing in 2014.
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Listen on YouTube to tlc at the Grammy when left eye said they were broke. She broke down everything
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Also, just because you on the squad don't mean ****. Cash money has and will sign anybody. You mean to tell me that Fred Durst ghostwriting for Lil Twist or something?
Never forget "Ya'll lil bustas just a tax write off"
Never forget "Ya'll lil bustas just a tax write off"
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OK. I'm going to run right now and listen to Left Eye break down the music business for me.
Because artists have such a firm grasp of business.
You got it.
No disrespect to Left Eye. RIP.
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Itunes yes they pay wholesale as well and send when album sells they keep the profit and send she rest back to industry
Like if they wholesale young thug cd for $6 I can sell for whatever I want but the industry want their $6 per album sold and it gets tracked
Bow I don't know the exact amount but it's around that
If I want to sell it for $5 to get people in my iTunes Store and upset that's my business unless the contract says otherwise
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THAT might be the most ridiculous thing you've said so far.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Period.
The term "stuck on stupid" comes to mind.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Period.
The term "stuck on stupid" comes to mind.
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She broke it down in the tlc lifetime movie towards the end they were getting paid pennies per cd.
Remember at the Grammies she went on tv and complained. Said they are broke bla bla. It was a shocker. They sold so many albums everyone thought they had money
But they rebound because some agent got them out the shady contract and gave them a tour for like 40 million
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Is that where you acquired your vast knowledge of the music business?
The TLC Lifetime movie?
I'm done
The TLC Lifetime movie?
I'm done
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My dude...
I believe what
illphillip
is trying to say is that NOBODY (not just the artist) can receive a set amount of money per album/song sold is because prices can change.An album can be $10.99 at a store in NYC and $7.99 at some store in Colorado. If you can't see how someone receiving a set amount of money per sale wouldn't make sense in that case then it isn't even worth explaining.
Prices can change but legally percentages can't. That's why I'm pretty sure there are accountants or whatever all throughout the industry doing the math of how much money everyone is supposed to make so that other people won't have to worry about it.
If you supposed to receive 10 percent of every single sold, then the song drops from $.99 to $.60 on iTunes, the amount you get has to be recalculated. You can't just get no damn flat rate a sale then a price drop/increase happens and receive the same amount cause then you would receive the lions share or less than what your supposed to. That's why it has to be done by percentages.
Quite simple really, I could be wrong though...
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Publishing and royalties is where the money is at. Every artist contract is different. Owning your publishing and royalties is where it is at.
Say 10 years from now I release your album as a digital master or special album. That's why they rename the album when released and add a few songs so it's it's not the same album. I keep all profits basically if I got publishing royalties
Clubs and bars, radio, commercials, football and NBA games, music machines have to pay royalties everytime they play a song. That's alot of money
Say 10 years from now I release your album as a digital master or special album. That's why they rename the album when released and add a few songs so it's it's not the same album. I keep all profits basically if I got publishing royalties
Clubs and bars, radio, commercials, football and NBA games, music machines have to pay royalties everytime they play a song. That's alot of money
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Tlc at Grammies saying their broke and getting jerked
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My dude...
I believe what
An album can be $10.99 at a store in NYC and $7.99 at some store in Colorado. If you can't see how someone receiving a set amount of money per sale wouldn't make sense in that case then it isn't even worth explaining.
Prices can change but legally percentages can't. That's why I'm pretty sure there are accountants or whatever all throughout the industry doing the math of how much money everyone is supposed to make so that other people won't have to worry about it.
If you supposed to receive 10 percent of every single sold, then the song drops from $.99 to $.60 on iTunes, the amount you get has to be recalculated. You can't just get no damn flat rate a sale then a price drop/increase happens and receive the same amount cause then you would receive the lions share or less than what your supposed to. That's why it has to be done by percentages.
Quite simple really, I could be wrong though...
I understand but that's the game
It's whole sale prices. Like car dealerships. Do you see Gm trying to change their contracts
Car dealerships pay mrsp or whatever. Whatever they sell it for is there busimess
An artist don't have dealings in wholesale prices that's the distributer such as universal
The wholesale price changes per album if your hot depending on record label Not the artist. Artist have no say so
Distributer package the album, press it, and get it out to stores. The artist have no dealings with them or prices
Artist rarely have any say-so except make this money
It's like if you worked in a car factory getting paid commission $10 per car you build. If the car sells for $15 or $30 you still get paid the same. If it's a hot car the dealer ship have to pay more for the car.
But it doesn't changes the fact you still get paid the $10 per car built
Now ofcourse those aren't car prices just making examples
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There isn't any artist majority that get paid over $1 per cd sold unless your hot! Like jay Z or Eminem.
Some artist may own some part of royalties or publishing but not all.
Rkelly does I know and master p, cash money
Beatles didn't even own their stuff, Michael Jackson did, if a company wanted to use their song, radios, Spotify etc Jackson got paid only
Probably why Juv and other cash money mad, they sign the contract they didn't understand their contract. Lil Wayne didn't even know about publishing and royalties
Some artist may own some part of royalties or publishing but not all.
Rkelly does I know and master p, cash money
Beatles didn't even own their stuff, Michael Jackson did, if a company wanted to use their song, radios, Spotify etc Jackson got paid only
Probably why Juv and other cash money mad, they sign the contract they didn't understand their contract. Lil Wayne didn't even know about publishing and royalties
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Yall arguing with a dude that said gillie wrote carter 3
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Dj jazzy Jeff broke it down on YouTube as well
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Is that where you acquired your vast knowledge of the music business?
The TLC Lifetime movie?
I'm done
No. Actually I had my foot in the biz. Read alot of books and my cousin actually got gold records for albums he produced I went to industry seminars as well in Florida
He actually worked with Wayne once and other major artist
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Is that where you acquired your vast knowledge of the music business?
The TLC Lifetime movie?
I'm done
No. Actually I had my foot in the biz. Read alot of books and my cousin actually got gold records for albums he produced I went to industry seminars as well in Florida
He actually worked with Wayne once and other major artist
Here's the problem. A book written in 1990 isn't going to explain the business in 2014.
You're still talking wholesale/retail as if that's an integral part of the industry today.
It's not. itunes doesn't pay wholesale anything. You deliver them the music. They sell it. You track it.
They take their share and account back to you.
Streaming services don't pay "wholesale" anything. They pay out royalities. Artists make their percentage. As do writers, label etc.
So much of what you're saying make no sense. Everything you're talking about is past tense.
Welcome to the now.
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