what are the benefits for a man to get married?
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Not me, my parents have been married for 25 years.
I don't see how it's cynical to examine the status quo and determine whether it actually applies to your life situation or not. You can't just do something because everyone else is doing it.
The only way I'd consider getting married is if I want to raise a family, which is not even remotely on my horizon at the moment. And even then, I know dudes who are raising families with women they aren't married to, and the fact that they aren't married doesn't really seem to bother them. So I don't know if I'll ever see marriage as a necessity. It certainly isn't the "default" option for me but I'm open to it.
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This logic might be valid if you are an awful person and you choose to date awful people.if wanted to go sky diving...
So many already setting themselves up for failure with these presumptions/excuses. Over 50% is high, but that doesn't negate that there are millions of other couples out there still going strong with assets actually being the least/last of their worries...
Dudes out here trying to live that Clooney life while looking like Popeye Jones with no actual assets regardless if they got married or not...
and your parachute had a 50% failure rate... would you still go?
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im with my girlfriend and have a child, looking to buy a house and dont plan on getting married
all depends on how both of yl go about marriage
im happy the way things are and she is too
why fix something thats not broken
all depends on how both of yl go about marriage
im happy the way things are and she is too
why fix something thats not broken
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Hearing these justifications for the divorce rate is hilarious.
These dudes really think they have all the answers for a long lasting relationship.
If you really could lay out how to have a successful relationship in 10 bullet points or less the divorce rate wouldn't be so high. Like I said, the illusion that marriage is the endgame to adulthood is slowly being phased out by the up and coming generation.
Will catch flack on my opinion being raised by a single father though. The "**** these ****" was strong in me from a young age. Marriage never, kids never.
These dudes really think they have all the answers for a long lasting relationship.
If you really could lay out how to have a successful relationship in 10 bullet points or less the divorce rate wouldn't be so high. Like I said, the illusion that marriage is the endgame to adulthood is slowly being phased out by the up and coming generation.
Will catch flack on my opinion being raised by a single father though. The "**** these ****" was strong in me from a young age. Marriage never, kids never.
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The 50% divorce rate is a myth, is it not?
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Not sure if serious...yes.
b/c marriage = forever not alone.
makes sense.
if wanted to go sky diving...
So many already setting themselves up for failure with these presumptions/excuses. Over 50% is high, but that doesn't negate that there are millions of other couples out there still going strong with assets actually being the least/last of their worries...
Dudes out here trying to live that Clooney life while looking like Popeye Jones with no actual assets regardless if they got married or not...
and your parachute had a 50% failure rate... would you still go?
The fact that he's comparing actual marriage failure rates to an extreme sport, hobby, etc. with an insinuated % failure rate is, in itself, already amusing...
if wanted to go sky diving...
So many already setting themselves up for failure with these presumptions/excuses. Over 50% is high, but that doesn't negate that there are millions of other couples out there still going strong with assets actually being the least/last of their worries...
Dudes out here trying to live that Clooney life while looking like Popeye Jones with no actual assets regardless if they got married or not...
and your parachute had a 50% failure rate... would you still go?
This logic might be valid if you are an awful person and you choose to date awful people.
Seems like we've got more than one Popeye in here...
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I think you missed the point because your analogy was bad.
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No. It's true. I actually believe it's still rising, but as previously stated; it still doesn't negate that there are millions of couples out there still going strong for the right reason(s). I'm not going to go on a tangent as there are hundreds (if not thousands) of articles, surveys, etc. that confirm many people get married for the wrong reasons. However, to completely dismiss marriage as a useless certificate can be subjective. If you're with your better half, a piece of paper stating so won't make a difference. However, the celebration of that bond (whether simple or grand) doesn't really seem that far-fetched. As I said, many of you are already setting yourselves up for failure with the impression that your 'significant' other has a hidden agenda. Marriage & monogamous relationships aren't for everyone, but I see nothing wrong with the act of marriage. That certificate doesn't dictate how everything will play-out...
Edit: Grammar mistake...
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I mean like the data itself is skewed. Accounting for people that have gotten into multiple marriages - thus multiple divorce, length of marriages, etc ..?
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it's higher
both if you criticize and rate relevance of my analogy...
Instead of telling why you don't agree.
Both are risking livelihood
Both can end up devastating if not executed properly
Both require trusting other people
Both require factors that are outside of your control for it to work.
Insinuated percentages? Those are facts, bro.
Collected by people... Not somw fairy tale that's pushed on you by your parents and religion...
It's a government contract. Period.
It doesn't sprinkle magic "commitment" dust on you at the ceremony
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Great thread. I think ima still get married though.
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Wasn't this thread already made like a few years ago? or at least there was a thread that veered off topic to this for sure
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If you're in business.
Some could say, it depends on who her father is.
"You haven't done the time and that first marriage to the girl with the right father."- Carl Van Loon
Some could say, it depends on who her father is.
"You haven't done the time and that first marriage to the girl with the right father."- Carl Van Loon
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The way I see it, the only true benefit is to say that you genuinely loved and were loved unconditionally by one person. In society, the way to prove that love exists between two people is by taking a chance and getting married. That's just how it is. So the only benefit is to say that you truly loved someone so much that you were willing to perform a ceremony that has been around possibly since the dawn of man, and adhering to the vows you took, all for the sake of love.
The answer to your question isn't going to be some witty philosophical response. It's not going to be about the options you're giving up. It's not going to be about finances. It's love. Promise you it's that simple.
The answer to your question isn't going to be some witty philosophical response. It's not going to be about the options you're giving up. It's not going to be about finances. It's love. Promise you it's that simple.
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Again. Not sure if serious...it's higher
both if you criticize and rate relevance of my analogy...
Instead of telling why you don't agree.
Both are risking livelihood
Both can end up devastating if not executed properly
Both require trusting other people
Both require factors that are outside of your control for it to work.
Insinuated percentages? Those are facts, bro.
Collected by people... Not somw fairy tale that's pushed on you by your parents and religion...
It's a government contract. Period.
It doesn't sprinkle magic "commitment" dust on you at the ceremony
I'd suggest sitting this one out and/or letting your asinine posts get diluted into the mix like another 'knowledgeable' NTer does...
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my parents divorced but ended up remarrying each other about 18 years later. however what keeps them together is that they live 800 miles apart.
my parents' current marriage is a "security blanket - safety net" relationship. my dad can say he is "has" someone in his older age, while my mother has someone to handle her finances.
if it works for them, more power to them i guess
my parents' current marriage is a "security blanket - safety net" relationship. my dad can say he is "has" someone in his older age, while my mother has someone to handle her finances.
if it works for them, more power to them i guess
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fontaine
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my dude...
I'm trying to have a legitimate conversation but instead of responding like a person that truly believes their stance...
You just tell me how mine is so "ridiculous"...
No evidence, no statements. Just, "I can't believe it".
I'm done yo.
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Way too many people buy into the "you need to be married to raise a family" concept. Successfully raising a child or children depends upons how responsible and dedicated the parents are. Two stupid, irresponsible people are going to suck being parents whether they're married or not.
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Oh this thread again
Since ninjahood is against marriage I expect him to impose his own views and opinion onto others as 100% indisputable fact, copy and paste a number of articles stating that putting off marriage/not getting married at all is an increasing trend, and be stubborn in even considering the views of others on the topic since he is right (#factsonly). Argue until the thread derails with someone personally attacking his living situation or car situation. Thread will then derail into a discussion about rent control/living in NYC or cars.
I'll check back later and see how things turned out. I am expecting a ksteezy post vouching for marriage to set this thread off.
Since ninjahood is against marriage I expect him to impose his own views and opinion onto others as 100% indisputable fact, copy and paste a number of articles stating that putting off marriage/not getting married at all is an increasing trend, and be stubborn in even considering the views of others on the topic since he is right (#factsonly). Argue until the thread derails with someone personally attacking his living situation or car situation. Thread will then derail into a discussion about rent control/living in NYC or cars.
I'll check back later and see how things turned out. I am expecting a ksteezy post vouching for marriage to set this thread off.
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You do it to solidify a relationship, strengthen a bond and because you strongly believe in the institution of marriage, not because of the financial benefits/disadvantage....I'm the only one out of my boys that's married and the others have kids and not married...I actually like to do things with my wife, go out and stuff, they seem to be imprisoned, cheat and one even made it seem like having sec was a chore...weirdest thing in the world, like fam if its so cool to not be married and with a kid, why do you look trapped?
But hey what do I know, I'm just a simp in this world of alphas.
But hey what do I know, I'm just a simp in this world of alphas.
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What makes no sense and I'll wait for someone to answer, is this...you have 1-2 kids with a woman, buy a crib with her, been with her for over 15 years, do you really believe not signing a marriage certificate somehow gives you a "one up" over her?...lmao
Btw no shade on single people, lifestyle seems fun, go out socialize with different people, no real responsibility to explain yourself for anything you do, pick up and go as you wish...I get it, I understand why dudes in their early 30's dig it...but is the trade off worth it when you get into your later years and are not as desirable and you outgrow the fun spontaneous crowd?...all of a sudden you find yourself very alone, wanting to magically turn on the commitment switch out of desperation and that's when you are most vulnerable to pay for beauty and companionship...
Btw no shade on single people, lifestyle seems fun, go out socialize with different people, no real responsibility to explain yourself for anything you do, pick up and go as you wish...I get it, I understand why dudes in their early 30's dig it...but is the trade off worth it when you get into your later years and are not as desirable and you outgrow the fun spontaneous crowd?...all of a sudden you find yourself very alone, wanting to magically turn on the commitment switch out of desperation and that's when you are most vulnerable to pay for beauty and companionship...
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But seriously, how many of the parachutes were visibly ****** up and people put them on anyway?
How much of the 50% or higher divorced rate was forced and doomed from day one?
Yall really letting what other people do dictate your life? I thought NT was better than that...
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