When is Will Smith gonna play a villian?

you said will smith is the only marketable african american worldwide, you were wrong, my point wasn't who was more marketable dumb $$%*, it was that will smith isn't the only marketable african american actor worldwide, thats really techinical huh...
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yes it is. every actor that acts generally will draw millions, and in that sense they are marketable. common sense no? when i said what i said,i gave everyone the benefit of the doubt in understanding the most actors marketable. maybe if i thought that's what your argument was, then Iwouldn't be arguing with you. but i really think you just switched up your whole stance on denzel being more marketable than will after i showed you thenumbers. r maybe i'm wrong about that. but as the numbers stand: will smith makes a lot more money than denzel does (check out the internationalnumbers). will more than doubles denzel's profits on the international level. who do you think the film industry is going to ask to star in their movies?

Black actors aren't the only ones not seeing Will Smith. NO ONE is seeing Will smith. Dude is probably the biggest hit actor ever.
very true. he's up there with cruise and hanks. but i wouldn't be surprised to see him reach #1 when his career is over.
 
you know all ya'll saying will could never be a villain... read the press before Collateral came out... no one.. NO ONE.. thought tom cruise could pull offbeing a villain... and he went and did it... and he was MORE marketable at the time than will is now
 
Will Smith>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Denzel Washington.

Denzel is great....but Will Smith beats him IMO.

LOL Matt Damon....man F' Matt Damon.....
 
Originally Posted by JordanXI45

Will Smith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denzel Washington.

Denzel is great....but Will Smith beats him IMO.

LOL Matt Damon....man F' Matt Damon.....
Until will a villain movie....Denzel>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will

we seen both sides of denzel....and he can act his A_ off...bad guy or good guy

we havent seen that from will yet
 
Originally Posted by JordanXI45

Will Smith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denzel Washington.

Denzel is great....but Will Smith beats him IMO.

LOL Matt Damon....man F' Matt Damon.....

Word? Is that why Forbes named Matt the most profitable actor?
 
Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

^^oh god, shut up. way to get technical after i gave you the damn numbers. no crap there are marketable african american actors, but NO ONE is close to will smith. all movie actors make millions, but is any black actor touching will smith? hell no. the industry is gonna bank on smith over denzel, freeman, cheadle, howard.

I don't know how he knows that europe and asia love Will, but Will has made twice as much worldwide gross as Denzel and has acted in way fewer films
i'm a Film & Media major. i had to research his film numbers and his many many guest appearances to a global audience. that's how i know.
Black actors aren't the only ones not seeing Will Smith. NO ONE is seeing Will smith. Dude is probably the biggest hit actor ever.



Dude's right. Will is the world's biggest movie star. His movies do better than anyone else period. Independence Day did 800 milli light. No one periodis touching Will's reach. White people love Will Smith so god damn much that is why he has attained such fame.
 
Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG

Originally Posted by D723

Black actors aren't the only ones not seeing Will Smith. NO ONE is seeing Will smith. Dude is probably the biggest hit actor ever.

You sure you're using the right choice of words???
Well if he keeps it up (barring any career ending scandal), then yes.
 
Will is a great actor, I'll give him that, but he's not touching Denzel. We've seen Denzel be a villain, gangster, good guy, ANY character and wewill actually sync with the character Denzel is playing. This is not always the case with Will.
 
Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG

Will is a great actor, I'll give him that, but he's not touching Denzel. We've seen Denzel be a villain, gangster, good guy, ANY character and we will actually sync with the character Denzel is playing. This is not always the case with Will.
Denzel's a great actor and definitely better than Will Smith but I'm getting so tired of people saying he's one of the greatest ever. Denzel is severely one-dimensional.
 
Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG

Will is a great actor, I'll give him that, but he's not touching Denzel. We've seen Denzel be a villain, gangster, good guy, ANY character and we will actually sync with the character Denzel is playing. This is not always the case with Will.
Denzel's a great actor and definitely better than Will Smith but I'm getting so tired of people saying he's one of the greatest ever. Denzel is severely one-dimensional.
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Originally Posted by ShoeHefner5

Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG

Will is a great actor, I'll give him that, but he's not touching Denzel. We've seen Denzel be a villain, gangster, good guy, ANY character and we will actually sync with the character Denzel is playing. This is not always the case with Will.
Denzel's a great actor and definitely better than Will Smith but I'm getting so tired of people saying he's one of the greatest ever. Denzel is severely one-dimensional.
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Great argument.
 
Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by ShoeHefner5

Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG

Will is a great actor, I'll give him that, but he's not touching Denzel. We've seen Denzel be a villain, gangster, good guy, ANY character and we will actually sync with the character Denzel is playing. This is not always the case with Will.
Denzel's a great actor and definitely better than Will Smith but I'm getting so tired of people saying he's one of the greatest ever. Denzel is severely one-dimensional.
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Great argument.
how can you argue such an absurd comment like that
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I know you're entitled to your own opinion but come on man.
 
Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG

Will is a great actor, I'll give him that, but he's not touching Denzel. We've seen Denzel be a villain, gangster, good guy, ANY character and we
will actually sync with the character Denzel is playing. This is not always the case with Will.
Denzel's a great actor and definitely better than Will Smith but I'm getting so tired of people saying he's one of the greatest ever. Denzel is severely one-dimensional.

WHAT????????????
 
OK OK OK now I know NT goes up in flames when someone attacks their saviors (Mike Jordan, Barack Obama, Denzel Washington, Jay-Z, etc.. etc...) but let'stake a look at what are considered to be Denzel's greatest films:

Training Day
Man On Fire
John Q
Deja Vu
American Gangster
Hurricane
He Got Game
Malcolm X

these are just off the top of my head mind you. In which of these didn't he play a guy who didn't have a temper?
 
Originally Posted by ShoeHefner5

Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by ShoeHefner5

Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG

Will is a great actor, I'll give him that, but he's not touching Denzel. We've seen Denzel be a villain, gangster, good guy, ANY character and we will actually sync with the character Denzel is playing. This is not always the case with Will.
Denzel's a great actor and definitely better than Will Smith but I'm getting so tired of people saying he's one of the greatest ever. Denzel is severely one-dimensional.
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Great argument.
how can you argue such an absurd comment like that
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I know you're entitled to your own opinion but come on man.
I mean really, Denzel is a great actor AND multi-dimensional. This isn't opinion either.

Originally Posted by D723

OK OK OK now I know NT goes up in flames when someone attacks their saviors (Mike Jordan, Barack Obama, Denzel Washington, Jay-Z, etc.. etc...) but let's take a look at what are considered to be Denzel's greatest films:

Training Day
Man On Fire
John Q
Deja Vu
American Gangster
Hurricane
He Got Game
Malcolm X

these are just off the top of my head mind you. In which of these didn't he play a guy who didn't have a temper?
You forgot Glory, Inside Man, Remember the Titans, and Antwone Fisher. Tell me these movies aren't all completely different form one another,and his roles aren't completely different.
Yes, those movies you listed he has a temper in but since when does a temper = one dimensional?
And sorry, but I dont know anyone who considers Deja Vu one of his best.
 
Originally Posted by 18key

Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by 18key

I mean really, Denzel is a great actor AND multi-dimensional. This isn't opinion either.

What??
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Check the edit ^^^
I've seen em all and I'm surprised I forgot to put Remember the Titans in there.. His roles may be different, but his personality isalways the same. Not to say Denzel isn't PHENOMENAL at what he does with his roles, but he's not one of the greatest working actors out right now.
 
One dimensional??? Why don't you compare Remember the Titans, Antoine Fisher, and American Gangster together and tell me those are all one dimensional.
 
Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by 18key

Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by 18key

I mean really, Denzel is a great actor AND multi-dimensional. This isn't opinion either.

What??
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Check the edit ^^^
I've seen em all and I'm surprised I forgot to put Remember the Titans in there.. His roles may be different, but his personality is always the same. Not to say Denzel isn't PHENOMENAL at what he does with his roles, but he's not one of the greatest working actors out right now.
um last time i checked..personality what made actors great at what they do. Why would you change something like that? Personality makes you whoyou are.
Quit while you're not too far behind, Your arguments are not strong at all.
 
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