Where my Angel fans at???? Official Offseason Thread: Pujols/CJ Wilson agree to Halos

I'd absolutely say that.

And it would make me appreciate 2002 even MORE. If we won the championship, my loyalty to the Angels would make it sweet, but my sports philosophies would make it better.
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And if we bought our way to 28 more titles, I would hate the Yankees no more.
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I'd absolutely say that.

And it would make me appreciate 2002 even MORE. If we won the championship, my loyalty to the Angels would make it sweet, but my sports philosophies would make it better.
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And if we bought our way to 28 more titles, I would hate the Yankees no more.
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by tim teufel

He was a great player in his prime but pujols is still on a next level. Now he will get those days where he will rest and be a dh certain days. Also think it was factored in his decision going to the American league.At 31 he's only 4 homeruns away of passing vlad,better average,better overall hitter and to me not even in the same discussion as players.
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You're missing the point.  COMPLETELY.  When the Angels signed Vlad, you could make a serious case for him being the best player in MLB.  This Pujols signing mirrors that.  The Angels have gone "all in" before and it yielded no rings.  I'll remain skeptical of this signing (and their others) because they've been down this road before with no success. 
    
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Vlad's career with the Angels included facing those good Redsox teams (WS 2004,2007) in the playoffs.
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 They completely OWNED the Angels back then.
We got rid of the Redsox Playoff curse back in 2009 though 
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 then faced the eventual champs the Yankees in the ALCS
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by tim teufel

He was a great player in his prime but pujols is still on a next level. Now he will get those days where he will rest and be a dh certain days. Also think it was factored in his decision going to the American league.At 31 he's only 4 homeruns away of passing vlad,better average,better overall hitter and to me not even in the same discussion as players.
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You're missing the point.  COMPLETELY.  When the Angels signed Vlad, you could make a serious case for him being the best player in MLB.  This Pujols signing mirrors that.  The Angels have gone "all in" before and it yielded no rings.  I'll remain skeptical of this signing (and their others) because they've been down this road before with no success. 
    
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Vlad's career with the Angels included facing those good Redsox teams (WS 2004,2007) in the playoffs.
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 They completely OWNED the Angels back then.
We got rid of the Redsox Playoff curse back in 2009 though 
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 then faced the eventual champs the Yankees in the ALCS
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Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

^ Oooooohhh, I can't agree with saying 'no success'. I've already said that I agree with what you're saying, but I can't agree with the phrase 'no success'. I mean, Vladdy did help us get back to the ALCS, and we did win the division like 5, 6 years in a row, something like that. That's not completely unsuccessful.

Obviously, that's not the return we wanted on that investment, but 'no success'? I can't agree with that; too 'black-and-white' for me.
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"no success" may have been a bit harsh....but when you spend like the Yankees, anything less than a WS win is a disappointment.  That's all I meant by it. 
 
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

^ Oooooohhh, I can't agree with saying 'no success'. I've already said that I agree with what you're saying, but I can't agree with the phrase 'no success'. I mean, Vladdy did help us get back to the ALCS, and we did win the division like 5, 6 years in a row, something like that. That's not completely unsuccessful.

Obviously, that's not the return we wanted on that investment, but 'no success'? I can't agree with that; too 'black-and-white' for me.
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"no success" may have been a bit harsh....but when you spend like the Yankees, anything less than a WS win is a disappointment.  That's all I meant by it. 
 
Originally Posted by Kookcle

Heres how i see it
CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

LF-Hunter

3B-Trumbo

C- Ianetta

DH - Abreu/Kendry

RF-Wells/Trout

SS-Aybar

1.Weaver

2.Haren

3.Wilson

4.Santana

5.Williams/Richards?
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How I see it. Made a little change 
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(BTW, we need to find a way to get Abreu the hell outta town.)

CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

3B-Trumbo

LF-Hunter

RF-Wells/Trout (Well had a good 2nd half of the season)

DH -Kendry

C- Ianetta

SS-Aybar
 
Originally Posted by Kookcle

Heres how i see it
CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

LF-Hunter

3B-Trumbo

C- Ianetta

DH - Abreu/Kendry

RF-Wells/Trout

SS-Aybar

1.Weaver

2.Haren

3.Wilson

4.Santana

5.Williams/Richards?
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How I see it. Made a little change 
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(BTW, we need to find a way to get Abreu the hell outta town.)

CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

3B-Trumbo

LF-Hunter

RF-Wells/Trout (Well had a good 2nd half of the season)

DH -Kendry

C- Ianetta

SS-Aybar
 
Originally Posted by ORSRT8

Originally Posted by Kookcle

Heres how i see it
CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

LF-Hunter

3B-Trumbo

C- Ianetta

DH - Abreu/Kendry

RF-Wells/Trout

SS-Aybar

1.Weaver

2.Haren

3.Wilson

4.Santana

5.Williams/Richards?
Click to expand...
How I see it. Made a little change 
tongue.gif

(BTW, we need to find a way to get Abreu the hell outta town.)

CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

3B-Trumbo

LF-Hunter

RF-Wells/Trout (Well had a good 2nd half of the season)

DH -Kendry

C- Ianetta

SS-Aybar
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Shouldn't we keep Torii in RF though? His arm > Trout/Wells.
 
Originally Posted by ORSRT8

Originally Posted by Kookcle

Heres how i see it
CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

LF-Hunter

3B-Trumbo

C- Ianetta

DH - Abreu/Kendry

RF-Wells/Trout

SS-Aybar

1.Weaver

2.Haren

3.Wilson

4.Santana

5.Williams/Richards?
Click to expand...
How I see it. Made a little change 
tongue.gif

(BTW, we need to find a way to get Abreu the hell outta town.)

CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

3B-Trumbo

LF-Hunter

RF-Wells/Trout (Well had a good 2nd half of the season)

DH -Kendry

C- Ianetta

SS-Aybar
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Shouldn't we keep Torii in RF though? His arm > Trout/Wells.
 
Originally Posted by ORSRT8

Originally Posted by Kookcle

Heres how i see it
CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

LF-Hunter

3B-Trumbo

C- Ianetta

DH - Abreu/Kendry

RF-Wells/Trout

SS-Aybar

1.Weaver

2.Haren

3.Wilson

4.Santana

5.Williams/Richards?
Click to expand...
How I see it. Made a little change 
tongue.gif

(BTW, we need to find a way to get Abreu the hell outta town.)

CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

3B-Trumbo

LF-Hunter

RF-Wells/Trout (Well had a good 2nd half of the season)

DH -Kendry

C- Ianetta

SS-Aybar
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Not to say he should play but you get rid of Abreu that is an awfully right handed lineup.  Phillies were a classic opposite example of that.  Plowed through the season and NL playoffs but had no right handed bats besides Werth and Damaso Marte shut them down.  Point is not matter how good the hitters are, this stacked right handed could be pitched to in a short series.  Keep him around to get on base like he does and limit his play in the field.
 
Originally Posted by ORSRT8

Originally Posted by Kookcle

Heres how i see it
CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

LF-Hunter

3B-Trumbo

C- Ianetta

DH - Abreu/Kendry

RF-Wells/Trout

SS-Aybar

1.Weaver

2.Haren

3.Wilson

4.Santana

5.Williams/Richards?
Click to expand...
How I see it. Made a little change 
tongue.gif

(BTW, we need to find a way to get Abreu the hell outta town.)

CF-Bourjos

2B -Kendrick

1B - Pujols

3B-Trumbo

LF-Hunter

RF-Wells/Trout (Well had a good 2nd half of the season)

DH -Kendry

C- Ianetta

SS-Aybar
Click to expand...

Not to say he should play but you get rid of Abreu that is an awfully right handed lineup.  Phillies were a classic opposite example of that.  Plowed through the season and NL playoffs but had no right handed bats besides Werth and Damaso Marte shut them down.  Point is not matter how good the hitters are, this stacked right handed could be pitched to in a short series.  Keep him around to get on base like he does and limit his play in the field.
 
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So it begins...

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So it begins...

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Off Season thread already longer than last years season thread...

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^ I mean, with an explanation and analysis THAT clear, there's no point in arguing.
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^ I mean, with an explanation and analysis THAT clear, there's no point in arguing.
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You can't compare vlad and pujols.
Pujols is a hall of famer already.
Vlad was very good, a CANON in the outfield, but the stats help put things in perspective.
Props to the halos.
 
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