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Originally Posted by CHRISblazinNJ
I don't really care to be honest. Do whatever is necessary
Necessary for what?
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Originally Posted by CHRISblazinNJ
I don't really care to be honest. Do whatever is necessary
Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11
I think someone should generalize all US servicemen now.
Originally Posted by DecemberLove
Originally Posted by CHRISblazinNJ
I don't really care to be honest. Do whatever is necessary
wow...
Necessary for what?
Originally Posted by AR Guy
Hell look at the Russians in Chechnya but nobody on this board cares about that...Originally Posted by DaNiKeRhiNo
Completely agree. There are bad apples in every Military in the world. But, it's only our atrocities getting the headlines these days because we've been constantly at war as of late. I guarantee you when we see another country get in a major war (50,000+ troops), we will see similar incidences. Unfortunately everybody, there are crimes committed in wars also since the beginning of time, but, believe it or not, the US is way more compassionate than other countries when it comes to war, why do you think we constantly work on precision-bombs, intel equipment, and various other methods to prevent collateral damage. The only crime I see is this being covered up and government denial, but I guess they don't want to mess up the world's image of the US military.Originally Posted by Kramer
I mean its sad but who knows maybe they had a reason. I dont see why everytime somethin comes up like this everyone says how horrible America is.
It's the fact people on this board look for a reason to bash America and the Armed Forces. Here are a few excerpts from an article I found about the Russians in ChechnyaOriginally Posted by James Earl Zones
Originally Posted by AR Guy
Hell look at the Russians in Chechnya but nobody on this board cares about that...Originally Posted by DaNiKeRhiNo
Completely agree. There are bad apples in every Military in the world. But, it's only our atrocities getting the headlines these days because we've been constantly at war as of late. I guarantee you when we see another country get in a major war (50,000+ troops), we will see similar incidences. Unfortunately everybody, there are crimes committed in wars also since the beginning of time, but, believe it or not, the US is way more compassionate than other countries when it comes to war, why do you think we constantly work on precision-bombs, intel equipment, and various other methods to prevent collateral damage. The only crime I see is this being covered up and government denial, but I guess they don't want to mess up the world's image of the US military.
I didnt care about most of this stuff. Then I saw the "chechclear" video years ago and from then on my view on the world warped a bit. I didnt know things like that were really happening at the age I saw the video. It's not surprising to me that no one comments on Eastern European atrocities here for some reason though.
I'm anti war through and through, but turning what happens in Afghanistan and Iraq into America bashing is ******ed. Blame the people who do it, and those who condone it and let it slide.
“At first the older one denied everything,
Bolded for emphasisOriginally Posted by ATLsFinest
Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11
I think someone should generalize all US servicemen now.
This x1000. Although this is a terrible story please don't generalize all those who serve
Originally Posted by JD214
Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae
I thought it was common knowledge that the U.S. brutally murders innocent civilians.
THIS.
[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]It's a double edged sword.....but at the end of the day, war @@@%+@ up everybody's mind[/color]Originally Posted by JD214
Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae
I thought it was common knowledge that the U.S. brutally murders innocent civilians.
THIS.
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy
Where all the dudes that were mad at me the other day for not respecting soldiers at???
+1Originally Posted by High Altitude
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy
Where all the dudes that were mad at me the other day for not respecting soldiers at???
You're dumb as all hell. You're grouping all US soldiers in the same category.
Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK
I think this might be extreme - but I don't necessarily mind it. We are one of the few countries that adhere to the Geneva convention, unlike many of these 3rd world countries. IMHO no matter if we treated a lot of these human being in those country with dignity and respect at the end of the day, they are set in their ways. The ways of lying, cheating, stealing, etc. You have to be there in the trenches to fully understand the psychological effect these people can have by their actions.
Case in point, a kid goes to a Marine and tell him, hey they are planning IED's in such and such place .. Of course this kid wants a reward - He leads you straight to the place to only set you up in an ambush .. 3 Marines die and multiple are injured.
Another example - Old man (65 or so) goes to the base everyday - Smile in your face act's like his your friend, tells you all sorts of good information, he is a good person. One night the base gets hit with mortars, the Marine on watch kills 2 men believe to be part of the ambush .. when they go to scout the remains/area - gets who was leading the charge ....
So in order for me to feel pety, it takes a whole lot than OLD news .. I wonder how many of you guys would react if a best buddy of yours is shot and killed in front of your face and only after the attacker runs out of bullets he surrender and you can't do @%#% to him .... smh!
Technically because we're fighting a group that hasn't signed the Geneva Convention we're not bound to follow its rules, but we do any ways.Originally Posted by kdawg
Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK
I think this might be extreme - but I don't necessarily mind it. We are one of the few countries that adhere to the Geneva convention, unlike many of these 3rd world countries. IMHO no matter if we treated a lot of these human being in those country with dignity and respect at the end of the day, they are set in their ways. The ways of lying, cheating, stealing, etc. You have to be there in the trenches to fully understand the psychological effect these people can have by their actions.
Case in point, a kid goes to a Marine and tell him, hey they are planning IED's in such and such place .. Of course this kid wants a reward - He leads you straight to the place to only set you up in an ambush .. 3 Marines die and multiple are injured.
Another example - Old man (65 or so) goes to the base everyday - Smile in your face act's like his your friend, tells you all sorts of good information, he is a good person. One night the base gets hit with mortars, the Marine on watch kills 2 men believe to be part of the ambush .. when they go to scout the remains/area - gets who was leading the charge ....
So in order for me to feel pety, it takes a whole lot than OLD news .. I wonder how many of you guys would react if a best buddy of yours is shot and killed in front of your face and only after the attacker runs out of bullets he surrender and you can't do @%#% to him .... smh!
Except for Guantanamo Bay...
I'm missing the point of your examples too - so, because some young or old men have been spies or whatever you want to call it that gives you justification to kill other old men and children?
Originally Posted by AR Guy
Technically because we're fighting a group that hasn't signed the Geneva Convention we're not bound to follow its rules, but we do any ways.
Originally Posted by Hendrix Watermelon
Originally Posted by justforsneaks
Wikileaks is so 2010
deep web is where it's at
Originally Posted by kdawg
Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK
I think this might be extreme - but I don't necessarily mind it. We are one of the few countries that adhere to the Geneva convention, unlike many of these 3rd world countries. IMHO no matter if we treated a lot of these human being in those country with dignity and respect at the end of the day, they are set in their ways. The ways of lying, cheating, stealing, etc. You have to be there in the trenches to fully understand the psychological effect these people can have by their actions.
Case in point, a kid goes to a Marine and tell him, hey they are planning IED's in such and such place .. Of course this kid wants a reward - He leads you straight to the place to only set you up in an ambush .. 3 Marines die and multiple are injured.
Another example - Old man (65 or so) goes to the base everyday - Smile in your face act's like his your friend, tells you all sorts of good information, he is a good person. One night the base gets hit with mortars, the Marine on watch kills 2 men believe to be part of the ambush .. when they go to scout the remains/area - gets who was leading the charge ....
So in order for me to feel pety, it takes a whole lot than OLD news .. I wonder how many of you guys would react if a best buddy of yours is shot and killed in front of your face and only after the attacker runs out of bullets he surrender and you can't do @%#% to him .... smh!
Except for Guantanamo Bay...
I'm missing the point of your examples too - so, because some young or old men have been spies or whatever you want to call it that gives you justification to kill other old men and children?
Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK
+1Originally Posted by High Altitude
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy
Where all the dudes that were mad at me the other day for not respecting soldiers at???
You're dumb as all hell. You're grouping all US soldiers in the same category.
I don't see him doing anything about it!