Wilt's 100 vs. Kobe's 81. Discuss

[goldmember]

When MJ scored 63, did they win that game?

 

[seth k]

Im not impressed by the 100 and was shocked to see it voted best record.

 

[xsalvioutlawx]

The Kobe hate on here is crazy.

Dudes honestly think their opinions are more valid than everyone else and they try calling out Kobe stans when they're the first ones flocking to any Kobe related thread for one purpose. To somehow try and disregard anything and everything he's done.

How is your opinion more valid than a Kobe fans when you hate Kobe? I mean seriously....

You can't hate on Kobe fan's and then try acting like your opinion isn't also bias when you hate the guy smh.

 

[wiredz3]

I could careless about who's a more dominate feat but let me add this to all you pro Wilt as I don't know if these points were discussed yet. 1) Offensive goal tending was legal. There's a quote from Wilt's teammate hinting he was "selfish" at times, a portrayed during the 100 pt feat. Shots would go up and he would camp in the lane and throw it down, whether the shot was going in or not. 2) Wilt's teammates were fouling the opposing team to get the ball back so Wilt could reach the 100 mark, even though they were up big.

 

[Air273]

1) Offensive goal tending was legal. 

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]wow i didnt even know about that.....wilt is an all time great physically  ahead of his time......now i see how he could get some many rebs just steal the ball off the rim and dunk...point and reb....nice.....when did offensive goal tending go into effect[/font]

 

[mr j 858]

Originally Posted by Goldmember

When MJ scored 63, did they win that game?

Nope !
And a first round playoff exit. I believe it was a sweep also.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

you guys are dumb


kobe>*

half of us would be more than willing to ____ just to be in his presence.

 

[M. Fresh]

Originally Posted by Futuristic

I'll take David Robinson's 71 over both games. He needed to come through with the scoring title and he did it.

my man

 

[ace rawstein]

Originally Posted by CP1708

Guys, the 62 thru 3 is nice, but that's a 38 point quarter he would have needed ya know.  Come on. 

As for the 81, what many may not remember is he could have EASILY been at 88. 

He missed 2 free throws, those are easy on a night when you're feelin it, shoulda hit them.
He had a cherry pick all alone down court play, but Odom threw the ball too damn far, it went out of bounds, better pass, easy dunk
He had a basket waived off, one ref called block, other called charge, they went with charge, and the block ref had called an and 1. 

That's 7 easy points right there that puts him at 88. 

Add in that he sat 6 minutes of the second quarter (before anyone knew what was coming) plus the final minute of the game he came out.  Shave that down a couple minutes, give him 3-4 more minutes (no worries about minutes, the Lakers next game wasn't for 5 more nights, Phil could have played Kobe 48 if he thought it was needed) Kobe would have needed a dozen points in 3-4 more minutes to approach 100. 

In today's game, from the perimeter. 

Kid did 55, in a HALF.  Absurd. 


But none of us have seen anything in Wilt's game.  No one knows how it was, what he did that night, he just went off, plain and simple.  I have no idea which was more impressive nor does it matter to me.  Grand scheme, 100 is still 100.  Period.  Not ever going to be topped, Kobe gave one good run at it, still needed a few extra minutes and a couple extra bounces to get close.  *shrugs* 

great post!
still got my newspaper clipping for Kobes 81

 

[abutta13]

not sure if true but i remember hearing that the same game wilt dropped 100 he had a teammate who was 8-8 from the field and had 20 assists

 

[futuristic]

Furthermore, I'll take Jordan's 69 point, 18 Rebound, 6 Assist, 4 Steal, and 1 Block game over Kobe's game too.

 

[|A-Man|]

Originally Posted by MR J 858

Here is the crazy thing and a lot of people forget about Kobe's 81 point game.
The same season he also dropped 62 in 3 quarters against the Mavs

The same Mavs team that went to the Finals that season and he sat out the entire 4th quarter also.

That was the game where I seriously thought Wilt's record was in trouble.

Phil Jackson even asked him if he wanted to be put back in the 4th.

And Wilt had like 58 pt game against NY a few days later that season. If I bothered to look I'm sure he had several other 40+ games that season.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Originally Posted by MR J 858

Here is how stupid the statement of MJ's 63 point game against the Celtics in the playoffs is better than Kobe's 81 point game.

-First off MJ needed overtime in that game just to get 63 points.
-Second the Bulls lost that game and were bounced out of the 1st round that year.

*Looks at avy, laughs and leaves thread*

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by Futuristic

Furthermore, I'll take Jordan's 69 point, 18 Rebound, 6 Assist, 4 Steal, and 1 Block game over Kobe's game too.

If this thread lasts just a bit longer, pretty soon we'll have

Wilt 100 > Jordan 63 > Jordan 69 > Lebron 50+ > MJ 55 > Melo 40 something > Kareem 38 > random guy getting 22 and 4 rebounds > Pau 19 points > someone's 11 points off the bench in the third game of the season > Kobe 81. 

All we have to do is wait long enough, it's going to look just like that real soon.  Watch. 

  

 

[srvballer]

Kobe's 81 is more impressive.

Wilts 100 was like if durant or lebron was playing against a high school team.

 

[kash55]

I think Kobe's was more difficult when comparing the two, but more points is more points, so Wilt's record is technically the best.
But I always present this fact when talking about these two games, in these two eras.

The basketball of the 1960s was fast pace, up and down, quick possessions.

Wilt's Philadelphia Warriors had 115 FGAs and the New York Knicks had 118 FGAs

In Kobe's 81 point game the Lakers had a total of 88 FGAs while the Toronto Raptors had 76 FGAs 

So you can see that the style of play of Wilts era greatly attributed to that unprecedented achievement.

 

[mister friendly]

Originally Posted by kash55

I think Kobe's was more difficult when comparing the two, but more points is more points, so Wilt's record is technically the best.
But I always present this fact when talking about these two games, in these two eras.

The basketball of the 1960s was fast pace, up and down, quick possessions.

Wilt's Philadelphia Warriors had 115 FGAs and the New York Knicks had 118 FGAs

In Kobe's 81 point game the Lakers had a total of 88 FGAs while the Toronto Raptors had 76 FGAs 

So you can see that the style of play of Wilts era greatly attributed to that unprecedented achievement.

Finally someone on the other side bringing some reasoning to the argument.

Yes what you said is very true but he still scored 19 more points then Kobe did. Do yall realize scoring 19 points in a game this year would put you 10th in the league!

 

[acbboyz84]

End this thread right now. Go to NBA TV. They are showing Wilt 100 point games document right now.

They said most of the guys back then couldn't even dunk. The game was a slow pace game. They also have some highlights. It's not even close. Wilt had it way easier than Kobe. Go check out for yourself . Kobe 81 > Wilt 100

 

[struong8]

Originally Posted by S4L3

Comparing a game in which there were no three pointers to Kobe's 81 is ridiculous...

100>81 and it's not even close.

I've never really given the nod to big men in term's of accomplishments because, well they're the biggest guys on the court

LOL. That logic is pathetic...





why should the 3 point line matter for wilt? he was a center..
plus wilt had an advantage compared to everybody back then..a huge advantage. he did not have that many big mens to worry about back then. hint, his 50 point a game average. that game he scored a 100 in had a final score of 160 something to 140 something. showing that defense back then was not even up to par to what it is today. not taking any credit away from wilts 100 point game but kobe's 81 is just a better feat IMO. kobe literally put his team on his back during that game and that season. kobe even said that he should have had 90+ points or more from easy shots that were missed and freethrows.

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Jordan's 63>*

 

[night marcher01]

Originally Posted by CP1708

Originally Posted by Futuristic

Furthermore, I'll take Jordan's 69 point, 18 Rebound, 6 Assist, 4 Steal, and 1 Block game over Kobe's game too.

If this thread lasts just a bit longer, pretty soon we'll have

Wilt 100 > Jordan 63 > Jordan 69 > Lebron 50+ > MJ 55 > Melo 40 something > Kareem 38 > random guy getting 22 and 4 rebounds > Pau 19 points > someone's 11 points off the bench in the third game of the season > Kobe 81. 

All we have to do is wait long enough, it's going to look just like that real soon.  Watch. 

  

Jeremy Lin's 38 point game on the 17 time Champion Lakers >>>>>> ________ (And y'all better not argue with me)

 

[IATT]

jalen rose, who was on the raptors team, talks about it here (fast forward to the 13 min mark):

http://espn.go.com/espnra...ntland/player?id=7520836

 

[buggz05]

Originally Posted by S4L3

Height measures your physical attribute, not your skill level. I'm just saying, if I had Wilt's height and length in that era, 100 would be much easier than Kobe's 81.

You really have no clue how impressive that game was from Wilt.

Scoring 100 was tough enough, grabbing 25 boards to go along with it, is another. No matter how tall you are or whoever your playing against. Ya'll lucky they didn't keep track of blocks back then too...






I'd just like to say that there was no goal-tending back then. All of his rebounds and points were pretty much goal tends.

 

[sohi 23]

Kobe 62, Dallas 61 after 3 quarters > *

 

[PRIME]

Originally Posted by LovesIt

Kobe's was more impressive. 

And you say this because.... You saw Wilt's game? 
Both games are historic and the caliber of the players were unmatched in both games. 

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Why compare though? Why compare? Why downplay one situation for the sake of another? Let both of those games rest in peace man.

But it is funny how people downplayed Kobe's 81 when it happened.

"He played the Raptors"

Sad. 

But people downplayed Wilt's as well, as if he had any control on the competition level. He can only play vs. the people in front of him.

All of this.