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the mvp is brady and its not even close. dont confuse a great story as an mvp
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Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Bingo. And for the record, I rather Vick win (N- okay... slight Jets biasOriginally Posted by ricerocket1
Brady, but not mad if MV7 wins it
Bingo. And for the record, I rather Vick win (N- okay... slight Jets biasOriginally Posted by ricerocket1
Brady, but not mad if MV7 wins it
*looks at sig*Originally Posted by Down By Law
Brady will win it and a lot of you guys are going to be upset when they reveal the voting too. I don't think Vick will get nearly as many votes as a lot of people are thinking.
*looks at sig*Originally Posted by Down By Law
Brady will win it and a lot of you guys are going to be upset when they reveal the voting too. I don't think Vick will get nearly as many votes as a lot of people are thinking.
Originally Posted by Down By Law
Brady will win it and a lot of you guys are going to be upset when they reveal the voting too. I don't think Vick will get nearly as many votes as a lot of people are thinking.
Originally Posted by Down By Law
Brady will win it and a lot of you guys are going to be upset when they reveal the voting too. I don't think Vick will get nearly as many votes as a lot of people are thinking.
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Its not, its just people on this site swing from Vick's sack.
Same rules can apply to all these Brady lovers we have on here, cause there's many of them to go around.
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Its not, its just people on this site swing from Vick's sack.
Same rules can apply to all these Brady lovers we have on here, cause there's many of them to go around.
Same rules can apply to all these Brady lovers we have on here, cause there's many of them to go around.Originally Posted by Deuce King
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Dam champ, when Brady is involved you don't miss a beat do you??......... As far as stats go.......
Brady
31 TD's
4 Ints.
3,561 yards passing
109.9 QB rating
14 games played
17 rushing yards
1 rushing TD's
Vick
20 TD's
5 Ints.
2,755 yards passing
103.6 QB rating
11 games played
613 rushing yards
8 rushing TD's
The fact that Vick missed 3 games this season and has stats that are comparable to Brady speaks for itself. Also, Vick not even being his team's starting QB at the beginning of the season and still leading his team to the record that have says alot as well. I think alot of people, not just on here but in the media as well sort of overlook Vick rushing yards or the he is a THREAT in that area as a quarterback, at least the MVP voters. The traditional mindset is that a QB is suppose to pass only but Vick as well as others before him broke that mold.......or at least attempted to. The problem is that alot of people still have that mentality that a "real" QB isn't suppose to run........according to their definition. I've seen it happen with Randall Cunningham and I've seen it happen with my boy Steve Young. Now I'm seeing it with Micheal Vick. At the end of the day for any and everyone saying that Brady is or should be the MVP ask yourself if you were a defender, doens't matter which position which QB between Brady and Vick would you have more problems with right now trying to defend?? Matter of fact just ask any defensive coordinator if you can and see what they tell you.
Its not, its just people on this site swing from Vick's sack.
Same rules can apply to all these Brady lovers we have on here, cause there's many of them to go around.Originally Posted by Deuce King
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Dam champ, when Brady is involved you don't miss a beat do you??......... As far as stats go.......
Brady
31 TD's
4 Ints.
3,561 yards passing
109.9 QB rating
14 games played
17 rushing yards
1 rushing TD's
Vick
20 TD's
5 Ints.
2,755 yards passing
103.6 QB rating
11 games played
613 rushing yards
8 rushing TD's
The fact that Vick missed 3 games this season and has stats that are comparable to Brady speaks for itself. Also, Vick not even being his team's starting QB at the beginning of the season and still leading his team to the record that have says alot as well. I think alot of people, not just on here but in the media as well sort of overlook Vick rushing yards or the he is a THREAT in that area as a quarterback, at least the MVP voters. The traditional mindset is that a QB is suppose to pass only but Vick as well as others before him broke that mold.......or at least attempted to. The problem is that alot of people still have that mentality that a "real" QB isn't suppose to run........according to their definition. I've seen it happen with Randall Cunningham and I've seen it happen with my boy Steve Young. Now I'm seeing it with Micheal Vick. At the end of the day for any and everyone saying that Brady is or should be the MVP ask yourself if you were a defender, doens't matter which position which QB between Brady and Vick would you have more problems with right now trying to defend?? Matter of fact just ask any defensive coordinator if you can and see what they tell you.
Its not, its just people on this site swing from Vick's sack.
so you showed me statistically, brady is better (3 more games, but it is what it is) but that defensive coordinators would most likely rather face brady than vick, because he's a duel threat, which is a huge assumption, but cool.Originally Posted by Deuce King
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Dam champ, when Brady is involved you don't miss a beat do you??......... As far as stats go.......
Brady
31 TD's
4 Ints.
3,561 yards passing
109.9 QB rating
14 games played
17 rushing yards
1 rushing TD's
Vick
20 TD's
5 Ints.
2,755 yards passing
103.6 QB rating
11 games played
613 rushing yards
8 rushing TD's
The fact that Vick missed 3 games this season and has stats that are comparable to Brady speaks for itself. Also, Vick not even being his team's starting QB at the beginning of the season and still leading his team to the record that have says alot as well. I think alot of people, not just on here but in the media as well sort of overlook Vick rushing yards or the he is aTHREAT in that area as a quarterback, at least the MVP voters. The traditional mindset is that a QB is suppose to pass only but Vick as well as others before him broke that mold.......or at least attempted to. The problem is that alot of people still have that mentality that a "real" QB isn't suppose to run........according to their definition. I've seen it happen with Randall Cunningham and I've seen it happen with my boy Steve Young. Now I'm seeing it with Micheal Vick. At the end of the day for any and everyone saying that Brady is or should be the MVP ask yourself if you were a defender, doens't matter which position which QB between Brady and Vick would you have more problems with right now trying to defend?? Matter of fact just ask any defensive coordinator if you can and see what they tell you.
so you showed me statistically, brady is better (3 more games, but it is what it is) but that defensive coordinators would most likely rather face brady than vick, because he's a duel threat, which is a huge assumption, but cool.Originally Posted by Deuce King
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
can you explain why it's so obvious that it's vick? i'm not saying it's not vick, but clear cut? how so?
Dam champ, when Brady is involved you don't miss a beat do you??......... As far as stats go.......
Brady
31 TD's
4 Ints.
3,561 yards passing
109.9 QB rating
14 games played
17 rushing yards
1 rushing TD's
Vick
20 TD's
5 Ints.
2,755 yards passing
103.6 QB rating
11 games played
613 rushing yards
8 rushing TD's
The fact that Vick missed 3 games this season and has stats that are comparable to Brady speaks for itself. Also, Vick not even being his team's starting QB at the beginning of the season and still leading his team to the record that have says alot as well. I think alot of people, not just on here but in the media as well sort of overlook Vick rushing yards or the he is aTHREAT in that area as a quarterback, at least the MVP voters. The traditional mindset is that a QB is suppose to pass only but Vick as well as others before him broke that mold.......or at least attempted to. The problem is that alot of people still have that mentality that a "real" QB isn't suppose to run........according to their definition. I've seen it happen with Randall Cunningham and I've seen it happen with my boy Steve Young. Now I'm seeing it with Micheal Vick. At the end of the day for any and everyone saying that Brady is or should be the MVP ask yourself if you were a defender, doens't matter which position which QB between Brady and Vick would you have more problems with right now trying to defend?? Matter of fact just ask any defensive coordinator if you can and see what they tell you.