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Maryse really rejuvenated The Miz' career lol

Yeah, her coming back has really helped him.

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Who woulda have thought this dweeb would land her :lol
 
You always let your personal feelings about guys and your back in my day vision of pro wrestling cloud your judgement.

The point is a lot of guys from this era should have become way bigger than they are but haven't because of the roadblock that is John Chena

The company intentionally self sabotaged Punk when he started selling more merch than Chena
Here we go with this.

Don't blame the person who MAKES the decisions (Vince), blame the person who YALL think makes the decisions. (Cena)

Literally makes no sense
 
Here we go with this.

Don't blame the person who MAKES the decisions (Vince), blame the person who YALL think makes the decisions. (Cena)

Literally makes no sense

What doesn't make sense?

John Chena's been the "man" for 10 years which didn't allow for anyone else to become said man. Whenever anyone tried to break through, they were intentionally road blocked. Whoever you want to blame for it, Vince or Chena, go for it but it doesn't change what happened. Which is what is being siscuaaed right now.

You harp too much on past debates, stay in the present.
 
Why do YOU think that John Cena is the one to blame for people not fulfilling their potential as if HE calls the shots?

I will ask again

Why do you think that JOHN CENA is the one to blame for people not fulfilling their potential as if HE calls the shots?
 
He's right

No matter who was responsible, Cena was the man and nobody was going to be given an opportunity to take his spot
 
Anything that happens in WWE, blame Vince.

He makes the decisions.

Don't sit here and say, "CM PUNK didn't reach his heights because of CENA."

No, it is because of VINCE McMahon.

Vince chose to keep Cena #1

VINCE chose to hate on Punk when he started outselling Cena.

CENA didn't do those things.

Stop blaming CENA is all I am saying
 
Granted it was 2001, but Vince's ego with the XFL still translates to todays product :lol .
 
Cena/**** shoulda main evented WM 29 instead of the Twice in a Lifetime match...
 
That is a got damn shame
How? Serious question
Miz put in work when he got the WM main event. He held every title leading up. Miz had a great build. I will say this that Mania match was a cluster **** but yall won't take away how proud I was of my dear friend from going from the real world to WM main event.
 
Granted it was 2001, but Vince's ego with the XFL still translates to todays product :lol .

This is very true :lol Vince was brash, over-confident, and thought he had all the answers then, and still does that today
 
Blaming Cena for "holding people back" is like when people blame a starting QB for holding the backup QB (that everyone loves) instead of the front office / coaching staff.

It is literally the same thing.

It was Brett Favre holding back Aaron Rodgers

It was an old Joe Montana holding back Steve Young

See how ridiculous that sounds when you type it out?
 
How? Serious question
Miz put in work when he got the WM main event. He held every title leading up. Miz had a great build. I will say this that Mania match was a cluster **** but yall won't take away how proud I was of my dear friend from going from the real world to WM main event.

He isn't WrestleMania main event material.

That is why.

You know that.
I know that.
The world knows that.

He is a career mid-card talent.

That is where he belongs.

He doesn't have IT man.

YOU know this
 
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