Wrestling Thread March 1st-31st/ NTWT Mania Survey In OP/ WrestleMania This Sunday/ WWE Hall Of Fam

I admit they really did good with aj styles and did the right thing by removing him away from that joke tag team

They built him strong but putting him in the ic picture is dumb
 
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Is Miz the worst talent to ever main event a WM? Non-Celeb? Question open to the public

Lob to Case Case

Of course he is..Go back and look at every match that closed Mania and tell me honestly he isn't the worst full time wrestler to ever be in that spot..And throw out Mania 2 (which was in three different cities with 3 different main events) and Mania 11 with Bam Bam vs LT (and I'd say that BBB was a way better wrestler/heel than Jizface)..
 
 
 
re: Unmasked Rey

Am I the only one that ignores that part of his career like Wizards Jordan?

I swear I haven't watched any UnMasked Rey match more than one time
Dude as a kid a hated this. It crushed my tiny little soul. That and kevin Nash throwing him into the trailer. My cousin called me to rub it in to.
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I dislike the Miz character in a KAYFABE sense.

If I boo-ed and cheered folks, I would BOO him.

I don't dislike HIM.

Big difference.

So that is the cop out you are offering though?

So since you want to hop in, what makes/made Miz WM Main Event Worthy?

Man what are you talking about :lol

I didn't say you disliked him as a person. You are getting too flustered and making stuff up.

But you and Case have both said that you are biased against Miz...you said you don't see him as "legit" or some stuff like that
 
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This is yalls go to when you can't take the heat. Nice deflection

Only those not able to debate properly run to this card

You're a troll and I'm a hater cause we come with fax and logic..They mad we don't fall in line with their sheep mentality..
 
Is Miz the worst talent to ever main event a WM? Non-Celeb? Question open to the public

Lob to @casekicks
I like the Miz 2016-17 run

But yes. He is easily the worst talent to main event a WM. How is this even debatable?

The video package for that match was better than the actual match.
 
Man what are you talking about :lol

I didn't say you disliked him as a person. You are getting too flustered and making stuff up.

But you and Case have both said that you are biased against Miz...you said you don't see him as "legit" or some stuff like that
He is a midcard talent.

That is where my bias lies.

I can't see him more than that but that is because of him not because of me
 
Makes sense. I can admit it, maybe it is a personal bias against him. I don't DISLIKE him, I just never viewed him as a legit dude. He is one of the dudes that casual fans turn on RAW and see and they say, "These new wrestlers are corny as ****."
 
Man what are you talking about :lol

I didn't say you disliked him as a person. You are getting too flustered and making stuff up.

But you and Case have both said that you are biased against Miz...you said you don't see him as "legit" or some stuff like that
Name me a worse main event talent
 
I hope they build Samoa Joe up like they did aj and no way they mess up bobby roode
 
DC I see you dodging my question.
What makes someone qualified to Main Event WrestleMania?
 
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Man what are you talking about :lol

I didn't say you disliked him as a person. You are getting too flustered and making stuff up.

But you and Case have both said that you are biased against Miz...you said you don't see him as "legit" or some stuff like that

I'm biased against a lot of wrestlers but that doesn't mean I can't be objective..

Sting is my favorite wrestler as a kid, but yet I have zero problem giving you a list of 10 dudes in WCW who were better wrestlers during the pre-Monday Night Wars..

My favorite tag team of the 90's was The Eliminators, but I'll tell you they weren't nearly as meaningful to wrestling in the 90's than New Age Outlaws/Harlem Heat/LoD/Steiners..

And I can't stand Roman, but if dude was a heel I'd enjoy watching him get his *** beat every ppv..I don't like watching Miz cause he's soft and isn't convincing at his job..I don't like to watch him get beat up (like a heel is supposed to)..I enjoy going to take a **** and reading SI/Rolling Stone while he's on..
 
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So all of you jumping on my case, calling me a troll, do YALL view him as ME talent?

Or is it just easy to deflect the convo to how I troll??
 
This is yalls go to when you can't take the heat. Nice deflection

Only those not able to debate properly run to this card
Deep Sea is just trolling at this point

What you do is come into a thread, focus one part of an ongoing arguement. Then go from there with whatever points you are trying to make.

Don't care about how you feel now in 2017 about Mizanin. But he was putting in work when they put the Championship on him. His workrate and mic rate were on point. He had the audience in the palm of his hand.

Now what then happened which has been the case for a lot of superstars when they start building momentum, said momentum gets used solely to benefit John Cena. Again it was acknowledged that John Cena has been Vince McMahon's crutch for the past 10 years. But nonetheless Miz's title reign and subsequent main event spot was used solely to push Rock vs. Cena. No one knows what could have happened had they decided to fully support Mizanin.

John Chena is the roadblock. And since you want to harp on semantics. Vince McMahon's refusal to let anyone else shine besides John is why a lot of guys have not elevated to the main event position.
 
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[h2]31. ‘WrestleMania 11’ – Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Lawrence Taylor[/h2]
The ultimate showdown between the NFL and the WWF was about what you expect — two big guys, one of whom couldn’t wrestle, fumbling trough a “WrestleMania” main event. Not only was the match not fit for a “WrestleMania” main event, it also followed the much better Diesel vs. Shawn Michaels bout.
[h2]30. ‘WrestleMania 9’ – Yokozuna vs. Bret Hart/Yokozuna vs. Hulk Hogan[/h2]
The main event of “WrestleMania 9” was bad for so many reasons. First, it put a temporary halt to the rising star of Bret Hart, who lost the WWF Championship to aging sumo  wrestler Yokozuna in 8 minutes. Then, somehow, Hulk Hogan — whose popularity was dropping by the second — was granted an immediate title match, which he won in 22 seconds. It was the exact opposite of passing the torch.
[h2]29. ‘WrestleMania 10’ – Yokozuna vs. Bret Hart[/h2]
One year later, Yokozuna was champion once again, and Bret Hart got his revenge. There was no Hulk Hogan to mess things up this time, but the match was still very forgettable — especially when you consider the show also included the classic ladder match between Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon, as well as a bout between Bret and Owen Hart.
[h2]28. ‘WrestleMania 8’ – Hulk Hogan vs. Sid Justice[/h2]
Sid Justice is not someone you’d imagine main eventing a “WrestleMania,” yet he’s somehow done it twice. His bout with Hogan at “WrestleMania 8” is definitely the worse of the two. Thought it may not have gone on last, many fans consider Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage for the WWF Championship the true main event of the show.
[h2]27. ‘WrestleMania 7’ – Sgt. Slaughter vs. Hulk Hogan[/h2]
The main event of “WrestleMania 7” was just silly. Sgt. Slaughter turned his back on America to become an Iraqi sympathizer during the Gulf War. The only logical solution was to have the Hulkster destroy him for the good ol’ USA.
[h2]26. ‘WrestleMania 27’ – The Miz vs. John Cena[/h2]
This is the most forgettable main event of the modern era. The Miz’s title reign is an afterthought, and the only real marquee value to this match was the feud brewing between Cena and The Rock, which would pay off a year later.
[h2]25. ‘WrestleMania 13’ – The Undertaker vs. Sycho Sid[/h2]
This was the other main event for Sid Justice — who changed his name to Sycho Sid for kicks. It wasn’t a bad match, but it simply had no place in the main event slot. Instead, all anyone remembers from that year is Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin.
[h2]24. ‘WrestleMania 25’ – Triple H vs. Randy Orton[/h2]
While Triple H vs. Orton had a great buildup — which included Orton attacking Triple H’s wife — their “WrestleMania” match simply didn’t connect. It didn’t live up to the hype they built around the bout through storylines. It also suffered from following the far superior Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker match.
[h2]23. ‘WrestleMania 2000’ – Triple H vs. The Rock vs. The Big Show vs. Mick Foley[/h2]
The problem with the “WrestleMania 2000” main event is that it was just too crowded: four wrestlers, each accompanied by a member of the McMahon family. There’s no need for that much clutter at around the ring, and it took away from the actual match. It was at least in keeping with the WWF style of that time.
[h2]22. ‘WrestleMania 21’ – Batista vs. Triple H[/h2]
This match came at a transnational time in WWE. The new faces of the company — Cena and Batista — were emerging. Unfortunately, that led to a relatively boring main event, with Triple H being defeated by Batista in a fairly unspectacular fashion.
[h2]21. ‘WrestleMania 4’ – ‘Macho Man’ Randy Savage vs. Ted Dibiase[/h2]
While Randy Savage battling Ted DiBiase for the vacant WWF Championship sounds like an awesome match on paper, this one suffers because it came at the end of a “WrestleMania” that was essentially a tournament. Savage had already wrestled three matches that night, and both men seemed burned out by the end.
[h2]20. ‘WrestleMania 29’ – The Rock vs. John Cena[/h2]
Though their first meeting at “WrestleMania 28” was billed as a “once-in-a-lifetime” match, The Rock and Cena wrestled again a year later. The second time wasn’t the charm. Though the WWE Championship was involved, the match lacked the mystique of their first meeting and just didn’t feel as special. It doesn’t help that The Rock sustained a major injury during the match
[h2]19. ‘WrestleMania 18’ – Chris Jericho vs. Triple H[/h2]
Triple H and Chris Jericho’s match was the victim of placement on the card. While the title match is typically the main event — and should be — these two had to follow the epic showdown between The Rock and Hulk Hogan. By the time Triple H and Jericho got to the ring, the crowd was completely exhausted and the match suffered as a result.
[h2]18. ‘WrestleMania 17’ – The Rock vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin[/h2]
The Rock and Steve Austin’s second “WrestleMania” match was a good one. At least it was before Austin aligned himself with his hated enemy Vince McMahon for no apparent reason and beat The Rock with a steel chair. Austin’s heel turn would go down as the strangest part of his career.
[h2]17. ‘WrestleMania 22’ – Triple H vs. John Cena[/h2]
The first “WrestleMania” meeting between Triple H and Cena should be a memorable one. Sadly, this match was not. The story was built around Triple H winning a tournament for a title shot, which left the feud with little room to really mean something.
[h2]16. ‘WrestleMania 20’ – Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels[/h2]
The main event of “WrestleMania 20” was an emotional one. Though most of the story surrounding the match focused on Triple H and Shawn Michaels, it was Chris Benoit who emerged victorious to begin his first title reign. Appropriately, the show closed with longtime best friends Benoit and Eddie Guerrero, now both with championship belts, celebrating together.
[h2]15. ‘WrestleMania 19’ – Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar[/h2]
This was Brock Lesnar’s “WrestleMania” debut, and he landed in the main event. What’s more, he ended up winning the title. This was a great wrestling match, outside of a botched shooting star press from Lesnar. However, the majority of the drama centered around Angle and a potentially career-threatening neck injury he sustained leading up to the show.
[h2]  [/h2][h2]14. ‘WrestleMania 23’ – John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels[/h2]
Unlike his match with Triple H at “WrestleMania 22,” Cena’s fight against Michaels worked on every level. The two men had a rivalry that made sense and brought their charisma to a great match — certainly one of Cena’s very best “WrestleMania” moments.
[h2]13. ‘WrestleMania 31’ – Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar[/h2]
“WrestleMania 31” will likely go down as the year NXT made its first major impact on the WWE roster. With Roman Reigns facing Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship, he was sure to usher in a new generation of WWE performers. That is, until Seth Rollins made his entrance to cash in his “Money in the Bank” contract to insert himself into the match and win. After being introduced a decade earlier at “WrestleMania 21,” “Money in the Bank” was finally used in the main event of “WrestleMania.” Rollins went on to have an impressive run as champion before being sidelines with an injury.
[h2]12. ‘WrestleMania 30’ – Randy Orton vs. Batista vs. Daniel Bryan[/h2]
The real story behind the main event of “WrestleMania 30” was Daniel Bryan and the audience’s undying love and support for him. While he wasn’t originally scheduled to be in the match, WWE couldn’t deny his extreme popularity, and he ended up winning the WWE Championship.
[h2]11. ‘WrestleMania 24’ – Edge vs. The Undertaker[/h2]
Outside of Michaels and Triple H, there’s nobody in the modern era who’s had a better “WrestleMania” match with The Undertaker than Edge. On a card that included Ric Flair’s retirement match, Edge and Undertaker were still able to put on a showstopping bout worthy of closing the show.
[h2]10. ‘WrestleMania 14’ – Shawn Michaels vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin[/h2]
This was the match that truly introduced the Stone Cold era of WWF programming. With Mike Tyson at ringside and two big names duking it out, the “WrestleMania 14” main event proved WWF was changing with the times, while up against WCW in the Monday night wars. It was also Michaels’ last “WrestleMania” appearance for five years.
[h2]9. ‘WrestleMania 28’ – The Rock vs. John Cena[/h2]
WWE took an entire year building to the first meeting between The Rock and Cena. It was billed as a “once-in-a-lifetime” match, and the two men wrestled like it. Being that they’re two of the biggest names in wrestling ever, it’s hard not to fall in love with the spectacle surrounding this contest. Smartly, WWE decided to put it on last, learning from their mistake with The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan at “WrestleMania 18.”
[h2]8. ‘WrestleMania 6’ – Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior[/h2]
“WrestleMania 6” was supposed to herald The Ultimate Warrior’s ascension to most popular wrestler in the WWF, with beating Hogan being the final step. Sadly, the fans weren’t ready for a new hero, and Warrior’s championship reign wasn’t all that exciting.

He ended up losing the title to Sgt. Slaughter at the “Royal Rumble” and never got another chance to be World Champion. Still, put Warrior and Hogan in the ring together, and you can’t deny the electricity in the audience.
[h2]7. ‘WrestleMania 1’ – Hulk Hogan & Mr. T vs. ‘Rowdy’ Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorff[/h2]
This was the main event that started it all. Vince McMahon has admitted many times that if the first “WrestleMania” had flopped, he likely would have gone out of business. Luckily, he took some of his biggest names and threw them in the ring together, creating something special that’s still going strong three decades later.
[h2]6. ‘WrestleMania 2’ – Hulk Hogan vs. King Kong Bundy in a steel cage match[/h2]
There was no way to contain the chaos of the “WrestleMania 2” main event other than with a steel cage match. Riding high as the most popular wrestler on the planet, Hogan battled Bundy in a match for the ages and redeemed a silly format that had matches taking place in three different cities.
[h2]5. ‘WrestleMania 5’ – Hulk Hogan vs. ‘Macho Man’ Randy Savage[/h2]
The main event of “WrestleMania 5” became a major pop-culture event as best friends Hogan and Savage came to blows. The match was good, but it was the story surrounding the match that made it special. Do you remember where you were when the Mega-Powers exploded?
[h2]4. ‘WrestleMania 15’ – The Rock vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin[/h2]
The first “WrestleMania” bout between The Rock and Austin is hands-down their best. With both men’s popularity skyrocketing and Austin’s feud with Vince McMahon at its peak, the atmosphere surrounding the match was like no other.
[h2]3. ‘WrestleMania 3’ – Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant[/h2]
Hogan vs. Andre the Giant isn’t a technical wrestling masterpiece — truth be told, none of Hogan’s matches are. However, the spectacle of the “the irresistible force meeting the immovable object” is the perfect example of what wrestling can be when done right.

In front of more than 90,000 people, the two biggest names in professional wrestling at the time went at it, ending with Hogan’s iconic bodyslam of the giant.
[h2]2. ‘WrestleMania 12’ – Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels in an Iron Man match[/h2]
What happens when you put two of the best wrestlers of a generation in the ring together for an hour? The answer is simply magic. The hour-long Iron Man match between Michaels and Hart cemented both men as the true stars they knew they could be and ended with Michaels beginning his first reign as WWF Champion.
[h2]1. ‘WrestleMania 26’ – The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels[/h2]
This match features perhaps the two greatest professional wrestlers of all time leaving it all in the ring for Michaels’ swan song. The story built around the match was perfect, with Michaels putting his own career on the line.
These two surpassed even themselves — after having one of the best matches in “WrestleMania” history the year before — to give WWE perhaps its biggest in-ring moment of all time. Even in the twilight of their careers, Undertaker and Michaels showed the world why they are the very best.
 
The Miz compared to all these names is easily among the worst talent out of all these talents.

I mean look at the names...There really nothing wrong with being at the bottom of the list. 

Just see it as an honor that Miz gets to be mentioned amongst all these ppl
 
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All I get is "Miz was putting in work."

Again, is that ALL it takes to main event a wrestle mania?

Have good mic skills, work hard, and put in work?

Yall just don't want to be publicly seen agreeing with me so you take the PC approach and give these participation trophy answers to the question

"Was Miz WM MAIN EVENT material."
 
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