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Does anybody else think Em will go at Rick Ross? If so, it's a wrap. Well it's a been a rap for that dude (sex tape) but...I dunno.
Don't really care either way.
Don't really care either way.
Yea...So...Ross won.
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Em cant say nothin according to yall hes a FRAUD too. I need proof he stuck 9 inch nails up his eyelids or killed his wife or slapped his mom or did any ofthat other crazy stuff he raps about otherwise he is a FRAAUUUUDDD
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So I guess all these people who dig Ross would also buy BowWow if he talked about pumpin weight?? Theres got to be some level of credibility and Ross hasnone... and why are none of his so called people stickin up for him or goin' in with him?
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Do people in real life give a damn?
I've heard Mafia Music and Magnificent on the radio more than I Get It In/whatever
I've heard Mafia Music and Magnificent on the radio more than I Get It In/whatever
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I don't care about this argument either way, but this type of logic is borderline ******ed. If you don't/can't see the difference inwhat Em does/did and what was Ross does/did, you're just being silly. I'll give EVERYBODY a pass on their music, fine. But he was asked in anINTERVIEW..SEVERAL times if that was him in that picture. He went as far as beating up a DJ who asked him...only to admit it actually was him. Everybodyalready knew that was him...
There was never a question about his music and whether he did everything he raps about. People who aren't stupid already knew he didn't make a couplemil last year dealing weight. People are looking at his music now because he's a liar and it's easy to listen to his music and think "This _ was aCO". The initial issue had NOTHING to do with his lyrics though.
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Ive been saying this since the beef started.
NOBODY outside the internet cares about this beef. The Ja Rule/50 Cent beef was televised and everybody knew about it. This beef is nothing like that.
50 Cent needs to stop being salty and try to make his music relevant again or just retire.
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Y'all really are if you see nothing wrong with what Rick did.Or maybe it's just that y'all can relate to him.
I swear this generation is +%$ backwards.
i think u got it with that
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how in hell will this album be bad?!
Have you all listened to NONE of the singles? They're among the best songs i've heard all year
Have you all listened to NONE of the singles? They're among the best songs i've heard all year
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JESUS. if he does....
but nah. em dont seem liek hell do anything liek that. unless ross puts sumn abut him
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Originally Posted by HARMCITY45
50 didn't end Ross career... (agreed, hope he doesn't, Ross is making good music, but look at the title of the thread)
He still eating.. (questionable, paperwork says otherwise, he makes several "mayback music" tracks and has a "lower level" maybach" while renting other things)
He still making bangers..
He'll be straight.. (thats not for me and you to decide, its in the hands of publicists, DJs, blogs, and females that buy records)
At the end of the day...
50 don't have the pull/influence he once had..
That @@@!* is a liar also..
And his album will be TRASH.. (prolly, if I buy it, its only to support all the free mixtapes + internet entertainment hes provided)
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It aint about what he did before he rapped, it's about how he handled the situation afterwards. And not all dealers end up in jail.
A real man makes no excuses for what he's done in his life.
I guess y'all enjoy ppl bs'ing y'all.
A real man makes no excuses for what he's done in his life.
I guess y'all enjoy ppl bs'ing y'all.
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The notion of "nobody" wanting to listen to Bow Wow is kinda brainless, I mean he had albums out before Rick Ross or 50 Cent could even get a deal .. . He's like 6 or 7 albums deep (they all prolly suck but that's neither here nor there) its not my type of rap, but somebodys buyin it.
As far as Rick Ross, dude is a fraud. I don't get how he's getting compared to other "fake" rappers of the past, there's no equavelent tohis level of fakeness... Even when Cube was rhymin about wild street #%%@ when he was a college student with no criminal record, he was a representation for agroup of people. He's respected by the dudes that live that lifestyle, and has always been for the past 20+ years because he was a representation of thatlifestyle... Same with Pac, he was a representation tho he may have not done all the #%%@ he said in his raps, his life was pretty public for the final 5years, and it was wilder than the #%%@ cats rap about now... His REAL life. It all came full circle.
Hip hop is a culture, rappers are just the vocal represenatives...As graff writers were once the visual side etc... Every movement has representaives its notjust limited to hip hop, or music in general...There's faces to put with damn near EVERY moment/movement in world history...
With Rick Ross, who does he represent?? Damn sure aint street ninjas, does he represent COs?? I don't know he wouldn't admit he was one, so I guessnot...That's what troubles me, I mean this dude is exploiting the hood, I can't support that level of fakeness. he's a talented dude, I aint gonnafront for one minute and say other wise, and as of tofay he's better than 50. But his whole body of work doesn't compare to 50s in the least bit, 50sgave away bigger and better hits tha Rick Ross will ever make.
As far as COs not being simular to cops, I mean they work on the same side of the law...That side of the law also includes DAs, Prosecuters, ConfidentialInformants, regular snitches... I mean its 2 sides of the law, he was one side in his REAL life, then came out rapping as if he was some high roller on theother side. & stole Ricky Ross name which is just a whole different level of blatent disrespect. (The real ones coming home...) 50 took his name fromKelvin Martin, but can we agree his life was more = to the Real 50 Cent then William Roberts is to the Freeway Ricky Ross...
Look @ the events known to the public surrounding both of their lives, can you really compare them?? I mean this dude is COP
As far as Rick Ross, dude is a fraud. I don't get how he's getting compared to other "fake" rappers of the past, there's no equavelent tohis level of fakeness... Even when Cube was rhymin about wild street #%%@ when he was a college student with no criminal record, he was a representation for agroup of people. He's respected by the dudes that live that lifestyle, and has always been for the past 20+ years because he was a representation of thatlifestyle... Same with Pac, he was a representation tho he may have not done all the #%%@ he said in his raps, his life was pretty public for the final 5years, and it was wilder than the #%%@ cats rap about now... His REAL life. It all came full circle.
Hip hop is a culture, rappers are just the vocal represenatives...As graff writers were once the visual side etc... Every movement has representaives its notjust limited to hip hop, or music in general...There's faces to put with damn near EVERY moment/movement in world history...
With Rick Ross, who does he represent?? Damn sure aint street ninjas, does he represent COs?? I don't know he wouldn't admit he was one, so I guessnot...That's what troubles me, I mean this dude is exploiting the hood, I can't support that level of fakeness. he's a talented dude, I aint gonnafront for one minute and say other wise, and as of tofay he's better than 50. But his whole body of work doesn't compare to 50s in the least bit, 50sgave away bigger and better hits tha Rick Ross will ever make.
As far as COs not being simular to cops, I mean they work on the same side of the law...That side of the law also includes DAs, Prosecuters, ConfidentialInformants, regular snitches... I mean its 2 sides of the law, he was one side in his REAL life, then came out rapping as if he was some high roller on theother side. & stole Ricky Ross name which is just a whole different level of blatent disrespect. (The real ones coming home...) 50 took his name fromKelvin Martin, but can we agree his life was more = to the Real 50 Cent then William Roberts is to the Freeway Ricky Ross...
Look @ the events known to the public surrounding both of their lives, can you really compare them?? I mean this dude is COP
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How was cube more of a representation of a street %%%!$ as a college student then ross is as a former C.O...just because he didn't get caught at the time?
They're more street $**@$! that are C.O.'s then those that are college students...
ross represents people in the hood...who would do the same thing as him and hundreds of other rappers...
Lie or exaggerate about their past to get paid...or as how Entertain I put it.....
and how do u know their are no equivalents to his fakness?
How about a dude like prodigy or Onyx...KIDS who created a image for their music...
and let me ask u would u put Malice in that catgory wit Ross?
Dude raps about more blow then ross and he was in the army...which is a government field or how u put it...the other side of the law...
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again...50 got shot 9 times right? ahhhhh no....but i dont give a damn about that either
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So you're gonna compare what NWA & Ice Cube meant to the west coast to what Rick Ross is to... Drug dealers?? (Or COs) are you kidding me, Ice Cube& NWA changed hip hop, I didn't know what was goin on in LA before them dudes came and broadcasted that !#$+... Just like Chuck D said, hip hop is theblack CNN and they were broadcasting from South Central LA showing what was goin on. Not to mention Ice Cube ALWAYS represented the duality of street life,where he talked about the glory the lifestyle sometimes brought, he always spoke from an honest point of view of how +#%%$% up the hood has become... I meanhis first album was AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted... If you think what Cube did & What Ross did are equal you need to sharpen your hip hop knowledge up...
I wouldn't compare being in the army to being a CO...(I don't really associate the law with the army because most of those dudes are off anyway... andthe army doesn't exactly abide by the laws a police officer or CO might enforce) I mean Timothy McVeigh was in the army, as was Mystical... Frank Lucas ranhis business through an military connect. I mean people in the army are prolly some of the wilder people walking the streets... Ever heard of Post tramatic warsyndrome?? I never heard of Post tramatic Correctional officer syndrom??
There's no excuse for Prodigy & Onyx dudes, but the fact remains they made better music than Rick Ross, and they were NEVER officers of the law, sothere's already NO basis for comparison other than they haven't lived out what they spit at that point in time, More so, Prodigy is sittin in prison aswe speak, like Pac his persona came full circle... Sticky got popped In the gut, also spent time on the island. So their lives eventually imitated their art.
I wouldn't compare being in the army to being a CO...(I don't really associate the law with the army because most of those dudes are off anyway... andthe army doesn't exactly abide by the laws a police officer or CO might enforce) I mean Timothy McVeigh was in the army, as was Mystical... Frank Lucas ranhis business through an military connect. I mean people in the army are prolly some of the wilder people walking the streets... Ever heard of Post tramatic warsyndrome?? I never heard of Post tramatic Correctional officer syndrom??
There's no excuse for Prodigy & Onyx dudes, but the fact remains they made better music than Rick Ross, and they were NEVER officers of the law, sothere's already NO basis for comparison other than they haven't lived out what they spit at that point in time, More so, Prodigy is sittin in prison aswe speak, like Pac his persona came full circle... Sticky got popped In the gut, also spent time on the island. So their lives eventually imitated their art.
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Wow
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I'm a 50 Cent fan... You caught me...
TIME you're a HATER who's gonna find a reason to discredit ANYone you dislike regardless of what its based on. I mean you're supporting a COP justbecause you have a strong distaste for 50 Cent... You'd prolly side with a child molester if he was beefing with a rapper you don't like...
But this issue really has nothing to do with who you're a fan of, (Ross makes pretty good music) its basically boils down to character and what standard aninja should be held to when he's talkin some BULL @+!!...
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When I talk about cube it Has nothing to do with impact of his music...I'm talking about what type of music he was making compared to the life he wasliving...
The whole NWA were playing roles and straight CB4...If the whole world knew how these dudes were really living NWA would have no impact....
Army is working for the us government...which is the same as the letter boys...(Hell Dea, feds, and !@!# like that look for miltary people.)
and i woud argue that a lot C.O.'s are just straight dirty or dirtier then anype of army dude...
and it doesn't matter that prodigy and Onyx made better music than Ross they're still frauds...the same thing that Ross is...
I guess my main point is be constant...
If you don't like a certain rapper beacuse he is fake and a fraud...That is cool and I respect that but hold those same standards for everyone...
Me...I already have a suspicion that most rappers were fake...So when it comes out that someone got caught I don't really give a !@!# and I just rememberthis !@!# is entertainment...
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i f's wit Ross' music more than 50 as of late, but I would have had a lot more respect for him if he didn't lie about the CO thing. I know COsthere's nothin to be hidin it for it don't make you any less street so idk why he felt like he had to lie about it
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people like u are the reason why black people cant get nowhere... u so worried bout the streets and u aint even in em...
mhmmm
and real talk if anybody who been in jail orgot a family member in jail know that CO's can be the most crooked pieces of crap evermy uncle used tosmash his female CO and was datin her once he got out ..im jus sayin why call him a fraud and not talk about your favorite rapper whoever they maybe ...chancesare they fraudin
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What do you think dudes are making music for?? An impact... If William Roberts thought he would have a bigger impact on the industry being himself thiswouldn't be an issue, so its ALL about impact weather that be @ the marketplace or in the hood...
NWAs music isn't 100% ignorent, bad, and or gangsta there's A LOT of reality, they were providing a voice for the voiceless, that's something Ihave always thought hip hop was here for... Not a platform to play dress up and jump into character... Cubes music was always inteligent, and his educationshowed in the greater majority of the music he made IMO... So his real life attributed to what he became as an artist a great deal...
Not everyone that goes to the army is qualified to represent the government once their duty is done with, that's why you see those cats in every field fromfactorys to goverment jobs. I mean the schools where these executives are graduating from don't have the Army recruiters all in the hallways like they dofor the less fortunate... "So the whole ARMY = Governement which should = Law enforcement" arguments hold NO water its actually kind of funny...I'm sure a lot of cats that went to the army wish they could get a good paying job of any sort. I mean the ARMY has got a lot of brothas out the hood...and for those that didn't make that choice, ended up in a cell opposite a CO like Rick Ross...
And even if this notion of him being a "gangster" CO, or a nice CO that'll talk to you about your problems, there's no evidence to supportANY of it. There's no one from his past that's coming out like "Yea I put in work with William Roberts, he's a real N" his own peopleaint *%+@%@ with him. He's about to drop a brick. His level of fakeness will prolly go unmatched. All I see is dude in a uniform shaking some white ladyhand with a certificate, then I see Rick Ross denying it... That was his 1st instinct, denial... That's just a testament to character... I mean if he wasREALLY pressed for cash, if he was a REAL hustler he would've prolly hit the streets or somethin, but he was a fat dude that wouldn't look right baggingroceries, so he became a co...
"I forgive you...Hustlin just aint you" - Jay
NWAs music isn't 100% ignorent, bad, and or gangsta there's A LOT of reality, they were providing a voice for the voiceless, that's something Ihave always thought hip hop was here for... Not a platform to play dress up and jump into character... Cubes music was always inteligent, and his educationshowed in the greater majority of the music he made IMO... So his real life attributed to what he became as an artist a great deal...
Not everyone that goes to the army is qualified to represent the government once their duty is done with, that's why you see those cats in every field fromfactorys to goverment jobs. I mean the schools where these executives are graduating from don't have the Army recruiters all in the hallways like they dofor the less fortunate... "So the whole ARMY = Governement which should = Law enforcement" arguments hold NO water its actually kind of funny...I'm sure a lot of cats that went to the army wish they could get a good paying job of any sort. I mean the ARMY has got a lot of brothas out the hood...and for those that didn't make that choice, ended up in a cell opposite a CO like Rick Ross...
And even if this notion of him being a "gangster" CO, or a nice CO that'll talk to you about your problems, there's no evidence to supportANY of it. There's no one from his past that's coming out like "Yea I put in work with William Roberts, he's a real N" his own peopleaint *%+@%@ with him. He's about to drop a brick. His level of fakeness will prolly go unmatched. All I see is dude in a uniform shaking some white ladyhand with a certificate, then I see Rick Ross denying it... That was his 1st instinct, denial... That's just a testament to character... I mean if he wasREALLY pressed for cash, if he was a REAL hustler he would've prolly hit the streets or somethin, but he was a fat dude that wouldn't look right baggingroceries, so he became a co...
"I forgive you...Hustlin just aint you" - Jay
