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IMO the rush to get games in by Christmas is turning the league into amateur hour. It tells you something when my guy Bud Selig does a better job than Stern.
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Originally Posted by Mamba MVP
Terrible trade for ORL but whatever.
Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04
Originally Posted by Mamba MVP
Terrible trade for ORL but whatever.
I agree, but if they can't do anything with the best center in the league, so anything they get in return is gonna seem like it's not worth it. What is Andrew Bynum gonna do for you that Dwight couldn't, besides shatter his knees? Pau? I'll take that, but you're still gonna have a high payroll and suck. Might as well throw in the towel and rebuild. And this is coming from a Magic fan
"Stuckey balking at Pistons' five-year, $40-45 million offer. His people [are] threatening to take Pistons' one-year qualifying offer. If they do, he's an unrestricted FA in summer of 2012." tweeted Ford.
This Guy...No team is gonna pay him that much so just sign my dude
HOLY COW...you can't be serious with this charade of discrediting Dallas over and over...stop give props or keep it moving. How is it a fluke, THEY RAN THROUGH THE BEST TEAMS IN THE NBA TO GET TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP.Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
Winning the title= fluke. Getting to the playoffs? The norm.Originally Posted by hpscots0906
But you said the Mavs season last year was a flukeOriginally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
Like I always said about the Odom trade, and the pick.
Orlando didnt want to trade for more or Equal salary salary unless it was Bynum and Gasol coming back. Heck even the NBA/ New Orleans knows they cant take back Odom. While the pick wasn't Odom's value, it helps, cause you dont have to sell a team on taking 20 million in salary. Realistically, was Orlando ever going to take back Odom in a trade? Was the NBA ever gone take Odom back in a trade? NO had concerns after that Thursday twitter meltdown.
Houston being the 4 seed with Nene out west wasn't that far fetched. Young legs, and good talent. But not having Nene shouldn't keep them out the playoffs.
Since you are talking so much about playoffs who are your playoff teams? here is mine as the teams currently stand
Lakers
Clippers
Spurs
Mavs
Rockets
Portland
Memphis
OKC
The order as of right now is to be determined.
There is no one on the market for Denver, and NO to significantly improve themselves to get back
Utah could click, but they could also trade the vets they have.
Golden State hasn't made a move, and Mark Jackson will be worse than Keith Smart was, but he will play Steph.....
Phoenix? Robin Lopez, and Gortat could be a very good front court on D, but they still will have to play guys like Channing Frye, Shannon Brown, and Josh Childress
Hey that's my opinion. Though.
Your turn Doink.
Originally Posted by tupac003
Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04
Originally Posted by Mamba MVP
Terrible trade for ORL but whatever.
I agree, but if they can't do anything with the best center in the league, so anything they get in return is gonna seem like it's not worth it. What is Andrew Bynum gonna do for you that Dwight couldn't, besides shatter his knees? Pau? I'll take that, but you're still gonna have a high payroll and suck. Might as well throw in the towel and rebuild. And this is coming from a Magic fan
And that's why you take the Andrew deal..he has a TEAM option next year...you can shed that contract and send hedo's contract over as well. If your going to rebuild, that's the way to go. The pick's the nets give would be just as bad as our picks. But I have a slanted view...
Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
Originally Posted by 10027
Originally Posted by hpscots0906
How can you say it was a fluke though? They won the title, what more concrete proof does there need to be?
I dunno about 'fluke' but I can understand one argument... I love the Mavs but the best comparison is the '08 Giants. They had a talented but not stellar team that hit its peak (or went beyond its peak) at exactly the right time. They'll be good next year but they're not automatic title favorites because they're far from the most talented team in the league and they could easily revert to the norm (playoffs, first or second round exit).
Only real thing you can expect to stay consistent about that team is Dirk carrying them on his back year in, year out. The other guys have always been incredibly inconsistent (looking at you, Jason Terry)
Its not even that just Terry, and Marion playing like they did in their primes. That's to be expected in the finals especially. It was a combination of getting every matchup.LA on its last legs? No Memphis or even San Antonio? And those series being exclusively based on matchups. They avoided every bad matchup they could have gotten.
Its just my opinion but they are the most flawed team to win a title in the past 30 years.
They are the most flawed team to win a title in the past 30 years. To me that qualifies as a fluke.
I like Dirk, like a lot of the guys on their team. Don't think you can quantify having a group of vets who are desperate for a title, and play their +$%++ off to win. But the bottom line is that 3 of the teams they played beat themselves.
They wont win 40 games this year.
Another thing that bothered me is the all time PF discussions guys like Japan, CP, Pmatic etc had this summer. If the guy was better than Karl Malone, he was better than Karl before he won the title. That playoff run to the finals wasn't better than either of Karl's. While I think Dirk is specifically better than Karl having a title doesn't elevate him as much as we want to think. I'm taking Barkley's prime over anything Dirk does. Even if Barkley doesn't do it. That's my personal opinion, but its indicative of what I felt about last year basketball wise.
Originally Posted by The Wizard
I don't know if that's a bad trade for the Magic.
The Nets are basically offering to eat EVERY bad contract the Magic has given out in the past.
Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04
Originally Posted by tupac003
Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04
I agree, but if they can't do anything with the best center in the league, so anything they get in return is gonna seem like it's not worth it. What is Andrew Bynum gonna do for you that Dwight couldn't, besides shatter his knees? Pau? I'll take that, but you're still gonna have a high payroll and suck. Might as well throw in the towel and rebuild. And this is coming from a Magic fan
And that's why you take the Andrew deal..he has a TEAM option next year...you can shed that contract and send hedo's contract over as well. If your going to rebuild, that's the way to go. The pick's the nets give would be just as bad as our picks. But I have a slanted view...
obviously you have a slanted view. But why not just rebuild now? How is Bynum going to help? Bynum is 1 jump away from being out for the season. He acts like a little %!@## many times, and this is when he's on a championship team. Just imagine the attitude he'll have on a team competing for the #1 pick in next years draft. If they had any chance in the east, I'd say risk it with Bynum. But they won't, so what's the point?
It would've been an easier deal to offer if Odom was still in LA but at this point with how the roster looks, I understand LA's skepticism.Originally Posted by DubA169
I would offer both Bynum and pau. Wouldn't even give much thought. U have to do it
The funny ***# is Stern forced himself on the CP3 deal and wants to dictate where he'll go and at what price because he didn't want a repeat of the Melo drama last year...yet he's made this situation look much, much worse than Melo's and it's a bigger blow to the image of the league with the actions he's taken as GM of the Hornets/Commissioner.Originally Posted by CP1708
The Melo deal was bad enough, having 2 deals like that would be insane.