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[noskey]

Don't know what's stopping Wenger from signing a 50m check for Lacazette and calling it a day,that's a bargain these days

Wenger still tries to buy players using1995 transfer money. They way he refuses to spend money, makes it seem like the club givs him a extra bonus for finishing top 4 without spending

Stan needs that money for personal use. Wenger cant touch.

 

[User 37837]

Son is gonna die of alcohol poisoning in Oktoberfest

I was thinking this when I firt saw the pic

Wish Jese gonna eat No buyback clause in France so he's there for a while


Does this mean Lucas is out? DiMa prefers the right and Pastore just got the #10 shirt

 

[AZwildcats]

Veratti isn't leaving PSG because he's a champion.

He's focused to CL trophies. He's won domestic trophies. Sure it's great to go play in other leagues, but if he's committed and wants to stay, I definitely want him to stay.

William came out and had the same type of statements towards Chelsea. Commitment goes a long way and reflects on the pitch. A player who cares about the organization will give that much more in effort to win.

Jesse to PSG is a good move also. I'm liking the way this summer has gone.

This is shaping up to be a great summer for PSG. These moves wouldn't have been made by Blanc as he had his favorites and didn't seem to want to change the team too drastically.

I'm excited to see how this next year goes under Emery

PSG are focused on CL trophies? Have these guys even got to the semis before?

 

[SadBoi]

People sign contract extensions all the time and they leave. I wouldn't be so sure about him being in PSG until 2021.

 

[User 37837]

People sign contract extensions all the time and they leave. I wouldn't be so sure about him being in PSG until 2021.

Man Marco isn't staying at PSG for another 5 years

As soon as Iniesta is done he's heading to the Nou Camp

 

[Retroballer]

It's just a pay raise and the club prob raised his buy out clause. Win-win for team and player.

 

[vtotheinay]

Veratti isn't leaving PSG because he's a champion.

He's focused to CL trophies. He's won domestic trophies. Sure it's great to go play in other leagues, but if he's committed and wants to stay, I definitely want him to stay.

William came out and had the same type of statements towards Chelsea. Commitment goes a long way and reflects on the pitch. A player who cares about the organization will give that much more in effort to win.

Jesse to PSG is a good move also. I'm liking the way this summer has gone.

This is shaping up to be a great summer for PSG. These moves wouldn't have been made by Blanc as he had his favorites and didn't seem to want to change the team too drastically.

I'm excited to see how this next year goes under Emery

PSG are focused on CL trophies? Have these guys even got to the semis before?

 

[PRIME]

Veratti isn't leaving PSG because he's a champion.

He's focused to CL trophies. He's won domestic trophies. Sure it's great to go play in other leagues, but if he's committed and wants to stay, I definitely want him to stay.

William came out and had the same type of statements towards Chelsea. Commitment goes a long way and reflects on the pitch. A player who cares about the organization will give that much more in effort to win.

Jesse to PSG is a good move also. I'm liking the way this summer has gone.

This is shaping up to be a great summer for PSG. These moves wouldn't have been made by Blanc as he had his favorites and didn't seem to want to change the team too drastically.

I'm excited to see how this next year goes under Emery

PSG are focused on CL trophies? Have these guys even got to the semis before?

What is there to focus on?

They want to win the CL, that's their focus.

What else do the have to worry about? Ligue 1? Domestic cups?

I need to post more trophy pics for y'all?

He wants to win the CL with PSG before he leaves. That's what he said.

PSG aren't worried about anything but the CL. Whether they've gotten to a final or not. It's their goal above anything else.

If it weren't, Blanc wouldn't be unemployed right now


If he leaves in 2018-19 or whenever, he re-upped as a commitment to the club.

 

[nomadicsole21]

Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1 aren't lower tier European leagues.

Primiera Liga is incredibly top heavy. Outside of The big three, few teams year-to-year could finish in the tto half of MLS.

Few leagues in the world can match the Eredivisie in terms of attractive attacking football but overall level of play isn't greatly superior to MLS. Earnie Stewart played a career there, and was recognized as the best front office director in the league the past few years before moving to the Philadelphia Union. He compared MLS and Eredevsie directly on a recent Men In Blazer's podcast, top to bottpm he believes they're about even in 2016, didn't think that was the case 6 years ago.


Liga MX suffers in the same way as MLS in terms of how it's perceived in America because it exists outside the Euro-soccer sphere.

Being an inferior league to Mexico is no cause for embarrassment. Top to bottom Liga MX > Primiera Liga and Eredivisie.

That said, CONCACAF Champions League results aren't really an accurate depiction of the gap between the two leagues.

MLS rosters aren't deep enough to handle the additional fixtures in competiton like CCL, Mexico's are. If you took the top half of MLS and had it compete in Liga MX there would be a gap but it wouldn't be the washing we see in CCL.

I think you kind of debunked your own argument on why we don't believe the MLS needs to expand no? Teams aren't deep enough with quality from top to bottom even in some teams starting XI.

You can't honestly think adding more teams will improve the quality of the MLS do you? Talent will be thinned out so much it will take hardcore fans to actually appreciate a Houston Dynamo v. Philadelphia Union match.

I believe the Eredivisie is superior to the MLS why? Because they develop players that go on to top clubs in Europe. You cant say the same for the MLS. The Netherlands itself develop world class players that go on to play for their own National Team and succeed in international competition. A nation of 17 mill vs 350 mill. Bigger is not always better and in this case I don't think mass expansion will benefit the MLS at all.

The problem is our college and youth systems can't produce the amount of quality players it will need to supply teams in the MLS year in and year out. The NBA and NFL can get away with having 30 teams because our college programs can pump out the Ben Simmons, and Marcus Marriota's year in and year out. Drafts are stacked b, the MLS don't get a Cyle Larin every year.

 

[Verde Shuttles]

According to Bild Draxler wants to leave Wolfsburg

 

[PRIME]

NBA is trash now anyways.

I don't want the MLS to model itself after the NBA

Whole ******* eastern conference is trash.

They gotta focus on building higher quality in the teams they have now versus putting nets in smaller markets.


They're trying to create fanbases in new markets, but adding more teams isn't the answer imo


I ain't got the answers tho, sway


All I know is, A league filled with FC Dallas and LA Galaxy caliber teams are better than the entire eastern conference.

That's realistically what I want. I don't even care about us being as good as England or Spain. I know that ain't happening any time soon. I just want the teams we have now to be better and to have a better youth system to pump quality for the national team

 

[vtotheinay]

According to Blid Draxler wants to leave Wolfsburg

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[rolaholic]

@English_AS
Pogba to complete world record-move to Manchester United tomorrow http://en.as.com/en/2016/08/02/football/1470170348_126957.html …

Some Italian papers are saying Thursday but the main thing is that it's looking like we might finally be close to the finishline . Not gonna get my hopes up just yet since it feels like we've been at the "announcement coming within 48 hours" stage forever though now

Kinda doubting it'll be tomorrow with Wazza's testimonial going on...

 

[Verde Shuttles]

Not gonna lie every time I see a post about the MLS becoming better and all that it evokes an eye roll.

 

[rolaholic]

Apparently Draxler favors a move to England...it's being served up on a silver plater Arsene

 

[nomadicsole21]

NBA is trash now anyways.

I don't want the MLS to model itself after the NBA

Whole ******* eastern conference is trash.

They gotta focus on building higher quality in the teams they have now versus putting nets in smaller markets.


They're trying to create fanbases in new markets, but adding more teams isn't the answer imo


I ain't got the answers tho, sway


All I know is, A league filled with FC Dallas and LA Galaxy caliber teams are better than the entire eastern conference.

That's realistically what I want. I don't even care about us being as good as England or Spain. I know that ain't happening any time soon. I just want the teams we have now to be better and to have a better youth system to pump quality for the national team

I disagree on the NBA but yes more FC Dallas in the MLS. They are a prime example of how to run a team in the MLS.

They promote the most homegrown players and guide them up through the ranks to the senior team iirc. They develop and scouted well to be where theyre at now. They also have 2 of my favorite MLS players in Fabian Castillo and Max Urruti.

But for every FC Dallas, there are 5 more clubs doing it wrong in the MLS.

 

[kanyeezy411]

Draxler seems to be no clever person.

How can you sign a contract until 2020 and then want to leave after one season, because of a verbal agreement from a year ago?

Why did he even sign with the club then last year, when he wanted to play for a better club? 

 

[noskey]

Is anyone else hoping Juve trolls United and waits until deadline day to do anything, and then they call reporters and say their fax machine keeps jamming?

 

[nomadicsole21]

Is anyone else hoping Juve trolls United and waits until deadline day to do anything, and then they call reporters and say their fax machine keeps jamming?

Laughing at my Man U friends like
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[noskey]

NBA is trash now anyways.

I don't want the MLS to model itself after the NBA

Whole ******* eastern conference is trash.

They gotta focus on building higher quality in the teams they have now versus putting nets in smaller markets.


They're trying to create fanbases in new markets, but adding more teams isn't the answer imo


I ain't got the answers tho, sway


All I know is, A league filled with FC Dallas and LA Galaxy caliber teams are better than the entire eastern conference.

That's realistically what I want. I don't even care about us being as good as England or Spain. I know that ain't happening any time soon. I just want the teams we have now to be better and to have a better youth system to pump quality for the national team

I disagree on the NBA but yes more FC Dallas in the MLS. They are a prime example of how to run a team in the MLS.

They promote the most homegrown players and guide them up through the ranks to the senior team iirc. They develop and scouted well to be where theyre at now. They also have 2 of my favorite MLS players in Fabian Castillo and Max Urruti.

But for every FC Dallas, there are 5 more clubs doing it wrong in the MLS.

Yeah, Castillo will be gone soon if things go the way it looks like they are.

And there's no creating new fanbases. The MLS knows they can't go that route; you take current USL or NASL teams with solid bases (Minn., Detroit, St Louis, etc) and build them into a top league team. It worked fantastically for Orlando most recently. With how global soccer is, the quality will come. It has been inflowing like crazy if you look beyond the marquee names.

 

[QU!K]

With Brexit, and the EU on the verge of falling apart, the MLS should soon be able to become an attractive option for some no?

Then again I dunno, heard MLS pays like trash for most players

 

[northoaklandfc]

  You can't honestly think adding more teams will improve the quality of the MLS do you? Talent will be thinned out so much it will take hardcore fans to actually appreciate a Houston Dynamo v. Philadelphia Union match.

Not at all. At the crux of my argument is the notion that satisfying market demand and increasing quality of play are not mutually exclusively. 

I stated from the very beginning that continued expansion within reason, in a manner that's strategic and consistent with what we've seen in the last decade, will not lower the quality of play.

I know a lot of people here didn't follow MLS in 2005 but I did.  The league is of astronomically higher quality today than it was then, and it's nearly doubled in size in terms of teams, and it's more than doubled in size in terms of players under contract. The objective empirical evidence is there to support that claim. 

The term mass expansion isn't applicable to MLS either. MLS expansion has been slow, steady, and impeccably strategic.   We're not talking about expanding the league to 30 teams over night, we're talking about the exact same incredibly well documented process that's taken place for the past 10-12 years.  The addition of  1 - 2 extremely well vetted markets, every 3 - 4 years. 

I believe the Eredivisie is superior to the MLS why? Because they develop players that go on to top clubs in Europe. You cant say the same for the MLS. The Netherlands itself develop world class players that go on to play for their own National Team and succeed in international competition. A nation of 17 mill vs 350 mill. Bigger is not always better and in this case I don't think mass expansion will benefit the MLS at all.

I think there's a serious flaw in that method of evaluating league quality.  Do a small subset of of players from the Eredivisie go on to top clubs in Europe? Yes, but the vast majority of them don't and will never play in a league better than the Eredivise.

Does the Eredivisie produce a disproportionate amount of talent that matriculates up to the top leagues in Europe? Yes, but you still can't use the top 10% of players who happen to pass through the league as your benchmark when comparing the league as a whole to others. Luis Suarez and Christian Ericksen are the exception and not the rule.  Completely disregarding the fact that the Eredivisie is a developmental league and MLS isn't, that's already flawed logic.

Here's a link to Earnier Stewarts thoughts directly comparing the two leagues.  As he mentions you can't compare leagues in a vacuum. It's nuanced and largely depends on how you frame things. Ajax, PSV and Feyenord have players in their reserve set ups that might be in the upper 90th percentile of MLS talent. Meanwhile Willem II and Excelsior would get washed by MLS playoff teams.

I didn't say MLS was superior to the Eredivisie, my point was that the gap between Roda, Vitesse, Heerenveen, etc and the average MLS club isn't quite what people think. 

 

[arstyle27]

Nope every city signing is a perfect one. All world class. At least that's what they tell you.

Lol..
Go watch a Brewers game

 

[lovehateself]

 
Draxler seems to be no clever person.

How can you sign a contract until 2020 and then want to leave after one season, because of a verbal agreement from a year ago?

Why did he even sign with the club then last year, when he wanted to play for a better club? 

same reason why nfl players want to re up their contracts after like 2 years after getting wide eyed seeing that guaranteed money. 

dude got his wages up, but is now at the teams mercy. 

 

[Verde Shuttles]

@Flyeed what you think about this deal

"The £35m price tag on Sissoko may slow things down but it appears Madrid may offer the Championship club two young players, most probably Mariano Diaz and Marcos Llorente, on season-long loans in order to make a deal more attractive."