⭐ OFFICIAL 2020-2021 NBA Off-Season Thread: Olympics begin 7/23; NBA Draft 7/29⭐

Status
Not open for further replies.
Russ was drafted in 2008 and just now in the past year, it’s like “he doesn’t want to win titles”... he’s past his young-athletic prime and still gets numbers, but if you wanted to litigate this “he doesn’t want to win” nonsense you should’ve been saying this in 2015-2016 era, not when he’s past his actual prime. Now he’s just at the mercy of his situation.

People have been saying his style of play and unwillingness to make any adjustments was problematic going back to his OKC days.
 
Russ in the bubble playoffs last year was a hilarious watch. It was like dude was trying to perform at the combine showing us how great of an athlete he was while completely disregarding the game of basketball.

I kinda give him a pass though cause last season was B/S, he caught COVID, a messed up knee and had to co-exist with Ranger Jim.
 
What do you call a high IQ basketball player with good stats that consistently makes low IQ plays in crucial situations? Is that a bad player as well? Just trying to gauge what the sliding scale on players is since a 9 time all star, 9 time all NBA player is a bad and losing player.
 
Do the Warriors (Steve Kerr) actually care about making the playoffs? I can’t tell. They’re not good, but it also seems sometimes like Kerr isn’t that concerned with winning.

If they don’t care, then just go ahead and shut Steve down.
 
Do the Warriors (Steve Kerr) actually care about making the playoffs? I can’t tell. They’re not good, but it also seems sometimes like Kerr isn’t that concerned with winning.

If they don’t care, then just go ahead and shut Steve down.
He had a quote from early in the season, "we're not going to chase wins" that fans/media are using to kick his ***. :lol
 
Do the Warriors (Steve Kerr) actually care about making the playoffs? I can’t tell. They’re not good, but it also seems sometimes like Kerr isn’t that concerned with winning.

If they don’t care, then just go ahead and shut Steve down.

He's having fun regardless
 
Do the Warriors (Steve Kerr) actually care about making the playoffs? I can’t tell. They’re not good, but it also seems sometimes like Kerr isn’t that concerned with winning.

If they don’t care, then just go ahead and shut Steve down.
There was a recent about whether they were doing a “soft tank” or failing to adapt to the NBA (I’ve included the piece on the Warriors in the spoiler below). I think it’s a mix of both. Kerr’s system hasn’t changed and Meyers ‘n em have compiled a roster of developmental players and pieces that don’t fit in said system. I feel Kerr isn’t interested in making the appropriate adjustments to fit the personnel and here we are. As far as Steph, if he is healthy then I’m onboard with playing him.



It’s time to embrace the pick-and-roll.

Last week, the Warriors ran 10 pick-and-rolls with Steph Curry as the ball handler and James Wiseman as the screener. It was the most Curry and Wiseman had tallied together in a game since late January. Steve Kerr was asked after the game whether he plans to use more pick-and-rolls, which is something he’s long resisted with Golden State’s past contenders.

“We want to continue to run plenty of pick-and-rolls,” Kerr said, noting Wiseman’s grasp of the intricacies of screening—timing, angles, and skills like that—as a reason. The next game, a 53-point loss to the Raptors, Curry didn’t play. And on Sunday against the Hawks, they ran seven, near their season average of 6.5, according to Second Spectrum. None of these totals come close to pick-and-rolls run per game by duos ranging from Trae Young and Clint Capela (19.2) to De’Aaron Fox and Richaun Holmes (15.7) to even Dejounte Murray and Jakob Poeltl (9.1).

It’ll take more than one game to know whether Golden State will really run more pick-and-roll with Curry and Wiseman this season, but Warriors fans have been asking for it all year, for good reason. Since 2017-18, including this disappointing season, the Warriors score 1.07 points per pick-and-roll with Curry as the ball handler, which leads the league during this time frame. Here is the top five:

Pick-and-Roll Maestros

BALL HANDLERPOINTS PER CHANCEPICKS PER 100 POSSESSIONS
BALL HANDLERPOINTS PER CHANCEPICKS PER 100 POSSESSIONS
Stephen Curry1.0732.1
Kyrie Irving1.0437.9
Damian Lillard1.0450.1
Luka Doncic1.0456.8
James Harden1.0348.6
Even if Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, and Green are all off the court, Curry’s name would still rank first (1.05) when he’s running a pick-and-roll. That stat surprised me, but it speaks to his greatness. This is precisely why many Warriors fans have been frustrated: Curry is the NBA’s most efficient pick-and-roll scorer and a dynamic playmaker, yet Kerr rarely utilizes him in this action even when Klay is out, KD is gone, and the team drafted a rim-running rookie whose best skill is finishing.

Adaptability is the hallmark of sustained success in sports history—from the New England Patriots to the New Zealand national rugby union team to the NBA’s own Spurs. After the Warriors lost to the Raptors in the 2019 Finals, I wondered how they’d change in the years to come. Two years later, the system is analogous and the roster has only gotten worse. Kerr and his coaching staff aren’t entirely to blame—Bob Myers and the front office chose to stock the roster with a lot of players who are still in a developmental phase. Even if Curry went full Harden, teams would just blitz and trap his pick-and-rolls all day long to make someone else beat them. Unless Thompson returns to full powers and stays healthy, there’s no other scorer on this team who makes defenses sweat. This team is filled with players—including Wiseman—who struggle to make rapid decisions in the read-and-react system that worked for past veteran teams.

This speaks to the importance of maximizing the coming years by tweaking the system to fit the talents of the players, by finding new players, or both. Curry is 33. Thompson and Green are both 31. Do these three really have time to wait for Wiseman to figure out how to help on defense? Or for Kerr to make the pick-and-roll the first play up the court, and not the last option at the end of the clock? The passage of time in sports often necessitates change. This season has shown the Warriors are in need of a makeover.
 
i have

time and time again.

tho ultimate goal is to ride the sexiest and hardest wood here in this thread.

light skinned papi aka NT booker aka my laker toy boy rodeo

my man, MVP MVP

this post made me horny thanks nick. nick.

C2DDAFAC-FA39-464D-AB43-036F816CEFD8.gif
 
What do you call a high IQ basketball player with good stats that consistently makes low IQ plays in crucial situations? Is that a bad player as well? Just trying to gauge what the sliding scale on players is since a 9 time all star, 9 time all NBA player is a bad and losing player.
Harden is objectively better than Westbrook though
 
People have been saying his style of play and unwillingness to make any adjustments was problematic going back to his OKC days.

It feels like though that an unwillingness to make any adjustments ≠ doesn't care about winning.

Some of these guys are just stubborn believing they'll come through, while caring about winning, and will throw up 20+ inefficient shots in a losing effort. I don't think if he had played a more controlled style they end up beating the 2014 Spurs or 2016 Warriors (this one is debatable). There was a lot that went wrong for the Thunder in those two. But then again we don't know.

And then any adjustments wouldn't have equaled winning anything for those post-KD Thunder or Houston teams, they wouldn't have had enough no matter if he adjusted his type of play.

I don't think he doesn't care about winning though at all.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom