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Mannnnn I swear I feel you. But me just me as a gm...I can’t pay that. You think I can get a all star wing back for him? I think I can. I would figure out the big man spot. I understand the situation they was in, I just can’t see paying it.
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I have anxiety watching Cousins run up and down the court
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It wasn’t just shooting though. His playmaking too. That was also where the whole talk about “gravity” started too. His impact was crazy that year.
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Giannis averaged an assist less than Steph did in 2016 last season. 30/14/6 in only 30 minutes a game is absurd.
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Oh I'm not in the just a shooter camp or anything like that. I know the playmaking is there. With that said, is there really much difference in playmaking between him and Giannis last year? I certainly don't think so.
Add in that Giannis was 2nd in the league in rebounding and won DPOY on top of that.
None of this is a knock on Curry. He had an all-time great season. I just don't see how any argument could be made that the 2 "peaks" aren't at least comparable.
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Was Yawnist really the DPOY tho.
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Christian Wood is gifted offensively, but I underestimated his defensive shortcomings. He needs to bulk up a little to compete better on that end.
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This Rockets team is way more enjoyable than with Harden out there. Wall looks pretty good.
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Absolutely. There's a reason he won by a landslide.
AD was better than him in the playoffs. Unfortunately for him, it's a regular season award.
If the NBA Season Is Over, Who Deserves Defensive Player of the Year?
Giannis Antetokounmpo was the focal point of a historically dominant defense, but there’s a chance he loses out on this year’s DPOY race
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No defender in the league covers ground like Giannis, with his condor wingspan and ZIP-code-clearing strides; he’s virtually never out of a play, so his presence short-circuits forays into the paint, resets possessions, and strikes fear in the hearts of drivers. When someone’s bold enough to try to take it straight up against him, he snuffs them out. Davis held opponents to 52.2 percent shooting at the rim, good for 20th place among players who made at least 10 appearances and defended more than three up-close shots per game. Giannis: 41.8 percent, good for first. Remember the part about opponents shooting 38.5 percent when AD was guarding them, second best among high-volume defenders? Giannis: 36.1 percent, no. 1 with a bullet.
He’s a straightjacket one-on-one. Opponents shot just 7-for-20 (35 percent) in the post against him this season, according to Synergy Sports, and only 4-for-27 (15 percent) on isolation possessions, putting him the 99th percentile among all ISO defenders; just as notable as those percentages is just how few attempts dudes even bothered making on him. And he’s become the most fearsome transition defender in the league, daring opponents to try to get it on the glass before he can get there, and obliterating them with extreme prejudice:
He’s a straightjacket one-on-one. Opponents shot just 7-for-20 (35 percent) in the post against him this season, according to Synergy Sports, and only 4-for-27 (15 percent) on isolation possessions, putting him the 99th percentile among all ISO defenders; just as notable as those percentages is just how few attempts dudes even bothered making on him. And he’s become the most fearsome transition defender in the league, daring opponents to try to get it on the glass before he can get there, and obliterating them with extreme prejudice:
The Bucks led the league in defensive efficiency this season, allowing just 102.3 points per 100 possessions. With Giannis on the floor, that number plummeted to a microscopic 97.7 points per 100. And as valuable as the Lopez twins were to Milwaukee’s scheme, the Bucks were even more suffocating when Giannis came in from the perimeter to man the middle; Giannis-at-the-5 lineups put the clamps on to the tune of just 94.8 points per 100 when Mike Budenholzer unleashed them.
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I might be overdoing it by saying not comparable given what Giannis brings on defense. Can definitely concede that. I think that what Steph was actually doing in PnR and passing wise is definitely a big difference than Giannis though. Comparable, but still Steph by a safe margin is probably a better way to phrase it. Could be the moment too. It just felt different
. I didn’t feel like I was living through something that was must see TV last year with Giannis in the same way that I did with Steph at all, and that may be coloring it as well.
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I still had AD, Simmons and Lopez over him. He just got the narrative backing himAbsolutely. There's a reason he won by a landslide.
AD was better than him in the playoffs. Unfortunately for him, it's a regular season award.
If the NBA Season Is Over, Who Deserves Defensive Player of the Year?
Giannis Antetokounmpo was the focal point of a historically dominant defense, but there’s a chance he loses out on this year’s DPOY raceNo defender in the league covers ground like Giannis, with his condor wingspan and ZIP-code-clearing strides; he’s virtually never out of a play, so his presence short-circuits forays into the paint, resets possessions, and strikes fear in the hearts of drivers. When someone’s bold enough to try to take it straight up against him, he snuffs them out. Davis held opponents to 52.2 percent shooting at the rim, good for 20th place among players who made at least 10 appearances and defended more than three up-close shots per game. Giannis: 41.8 percent, good for first. Remember the part about opponents shooting 38.5 percent when AD was guarding them, second best among high-volume defenders? Giannis: 36.1 percent, no. 1 with a bullet.
He’s a straightjacket one-on-one. Opponents shot just 7-for-20 (35 percent) in the post against him this season, according to Synergy Sports, and only 4-for-27 (15 percent) on isolation possessions, putting him the 99th percentile among all ISO defenders; just as notable as those percentages is just how few attempts dudes even bothered making on him. And he’s become the most fearsome transition defender in the league, daring opponents to try to get it on the glass before he can get there, and obliterating them with extreme prejudice:
The Bucks led the league in defensive efficiency this season, allowing just 102.3 points per 100 possessions. With Giannis on the floor, that number plummeted to a microscopic 97.7 points per 100. And as valuable as the Lopez twins were to Milwaukee’s scheme, the Bucks were even more suffocating when Giannis came in from the perimeter to man the middle; Giannis-at-the-5 lineups put the clamps on to the tune of just 94.8 points per 100 when Mike Budenholzer unleashed them.
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He needs to holla at Whiteside’s PED plug and then he’ll be straight
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Feel like only so much can be attributed to "the narrative" when he literally has the best opposing FG% of any high volume defender in the league.
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Hunter & Reddish combining to shoot 42% from 3 so far is huge. After Collins got suspended last year, it was just Trae & Huerter bombing. Now they have 5-6 dudes stretching the floor
Jerami Grant averaging 27 since opening night
Collin shot 40%from 3 last year on a pretty diversified shooting profile
cam shot much better as the season went on and Hunter showed flashes
what really killed the hawks last year is that all of their rotation players were either hella young (reddish, Hunter, Goodwin) or old and not serviceable (Carter Turner parsons) and their second best player missed 25 consecutive games due to steroids
Trae was incredible and if ppl would have just actually looked into ATL they would of seen that what he was surrounded by barely qualified as NBA talent last year.
good health, actual good NBA players around him = wins. I hope they keep this up because the empty stats talk around he, Booker, etc have always been stupid as hell.
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I don't know about Bagley man. I think he's definitely a good rotation player, but I'm not sure what he's actually really good at on the NBA level other than maybe rebounding.
Obviously still really young so we'll see how he develops. Just don't think I've seen anything particularly promising from him yet.
Obviously still really young so we'll see how he develops. Just don't think I've seen anything particularly promising from him yet.
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I see why boogie gets so many techs. hard to officiate someone that big.
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Really no reason for Boogie to be out there other than to space the floor. Giving him a side of the floor to iso on in 2021 ain't it.
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they ain’t helping him playing him at the 4 but I agree.
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