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Trae is more of a product of the current NBA. Curry was just #lightyears ahead of the rest of the nba when it came to shooting
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You talk about nuance...but this isn’t it. You know the conversation around Steph are an outlier in how we discuss great players. The slander culture has gone od for sure. Not trying to waste more time in this thread...because it will always be derailed. And strawmen will be brought to make arguments that aren’t even there. Then some out of context receipts. Some LOL’s. And people continue just being misinformed and going with their confirmation bias. Nothing of substance. At all. The general takes on his weakness or failures are terrible...in comparisons to his success. Always a caveat. GOAT shooter....but, is a pejorative for a player of his caliber. That’s what you will hear.
The discussions in this thread (and social media, real life in general when it comes to Steph) are like going back n forth with Glenn Greenwald.
Thats not to say he isn’t a fan favorite as an athlete. He is. But I still stand on how who HE is, how he plays, who he stopped from winning and what he represents...amongst other factors contribute to why there is so much skeptism Of his true greatness as an all time great (something we agree on)....and where he was during his peak (one of the best ever). And he’s as accomplished as they come.
It’s clear as hell...there is no way to even get people to try to understand this.
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Relevant.
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Steph must have personally offended
QU!K
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Siakam my guy, but he needs a more diverse array of moves.
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Simmons my guy but mad disingenuous to say he locked up Love when 1. Love got hurt and 2. Sexton was cooking him
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Ruh roh
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Which one of y’all did this?
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He gone
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I’m just the Yin to the Bistephual YangSteph must have personally offended
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This screams “I don’t know any Filipino people in real life”.
He's also black which DC is familiar with being a black man himself.
aepps20
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Lebbie had a squad where Donneyell Marshall and a guy named Boobie Gibson were key contributors. This Dubz squad is better than that. Wiggins would be the clear number 2 on that squad
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He's a racist bedsheet wearing *****. You can't expect anything better.Steph must have personally offended
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I told y'all siakim was a madagascar all star. He ain't been it since day 1. Kawhi saved that boy.
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IMO - it’s a bit unfair to compare the 2007 Eastern Conference to the 2021 Western Conference.
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I think that’s a fair point, but IMO that’s where the subjective nature of it comes in. I think the world of Steph as a player and that year was absolutely phenomenal, but I think his role and the role his teammates play is understated. I don’t think he reaches the peak of 2016 without the team support. Dame said as much. Steph had the luxury of quality talent around him. To his credit, he maximized it and went supernova in 2016, but they still lost to Bron in the finals.When people tout his otherworldly efficiency, I don’t think it’s an unfair criticism to say that some of that is attributable to his team.
aepps20
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Boobie Gibson is best known for being Keyshia Cole's side dude. The Dubz are barely competitive right now.
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I’m not Freeze. Try again. But it’s truth to what he said
. Doesn’t detract from LeBron’s accomplishments when it counts. But the blemishes are the blemishes, when you’re wanting to be considered the GOAT. I’m simply stating Steph belongs in the top 10-20 convo of all time. The 2nd best PG of all time, and one of the best primes ever. No laughing emojis or somebody else’s receipts are going to counter that doggy . But cool.Back to BronTalk (because it always goes back there
). That’s all basketball related. LeBron is still one of the greatest players of all time, who benefited from a historically weak East and handpicked his all stars for a decade. Then went west, struggled. Til he got another top 5 player....who actually tanked his season to get to LA...but that’s another story. This is true. LeBron is still one of the most purely talented basketball players I’ve ever seen...and his longevity, counting stats are remarkable. He’s top 5. I’ve said this like a billion times. And most people believe this.
The difference is, I’m never “discrediting” his talent or who he is as a basketball player.
People do that with Steph Curry. And bend and shift narratives at their convieneice with him. And flat out lie. It is not the same thing. It’s different. But I already know...exactly how this convo will go and what the responses will be.
Let’s just make a thread! And start the real convo. Or y’all going to duck it
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I mean, Giannis just went for 30/14/6 on 55% shooting in 30 min a night AND won defensive player of the year.
He’s obviously had his issues with the playoffs, but I’m assuming you’re just talking about the regular season.
That’s definitely comparable.
MVP
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Dynasty is a term that's used too loosely. Never won b2b, nah... not a dynasty
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All of you are saying Steph was was the best in 2016 the year Lebron dominated him in the Finals.
So was he really even the best?
So was he really even the best?
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Simmons my guy but mad disingenuous to say he locked up Love when 1. Love got hurt and 2. Sexton was cooking him
He shooting yet?
Yea, I’m purely talking about regular season though. It’s not like Giannis and Harden paired their peak regular seasons with postseasons that matched. Steph has the Finals blemish and deserves every bit of blame for it, but he was ridiculous the rest of those playoffs too. His usage was also 30+% that year. Regardless of having those other guys, he was the system. He was the engine that made that whole thing go. How many games does that team win without Steph? Maybe mid-40s? It’s hard for me to knock him down for the supporting cast there because he definitely elevated each of those guys too.
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