⭐ OFFICIAL 2020-2021 NBA Off-Season Thread: Olympics begin 7/23; NBA Draft 7/29⭐

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Klutch looking at Dray after this.....


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I think you are being a little obtuse about this, but if you insist.

Backpacks had good stuff on this.


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"Assists at the rim are a decent indicator of these kinds of high-leverage, quality dishes, and incidentally, Paul’s layups assists (as a percentage of his overall assists) were below-average every year he was a Hornet."

This is only a small piece of that picture but thanks for this anyway. (No Sarcasm)
 
Yah call me a Stockton skeptic.

I don't think he's as good a passer as Nash, Lebron, Bird, Magic and I have him firmly in a teir below.

And I don't see why I should be moved by longevity and gaudy raw assist totals.

The Utah Jazz's offensives were generally between mediocre and just solid untill Malone best seasons into the late 90s which tells me it wasn't John's passing that was stirring the drink.

And just watching him more closely after the last dance, going back and watching some his high assist games there just not a ton of truly elite eye popping passes. Probably due to his conservatism.

And imo the best make the passes almost no one would see. John Stockton imo doesn't do that enough to be in the convo for goat passer.

Great passer yes, as good as Nash, Magic Bird level? nah def below.
 
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Again to be clear.

Stockton, Kidd, CP3. all time great passers.


just not quite in GOAT passer level for me.


but reasonable minds can differ.
 
Again to be clear.

Stockton, Kidd, CP3. all time great passers.


just not quite in GOAT passer level for me.


but reasonable minds can differ.
You explained why you excluded CP3 and Stockton.

Why are you excluding Jason Kidd from that TOp Level?

I come in Peace.
 
You explained why you excluded CP3 and Stockton.

Why are you excluding Jason Kidd from that TOp Level?

I come in Peace.

I rank him just a little bit below because Kidd never QB'd truly great offenses, generally ran pretty terrible to mediocre offenses.

it's just hard for me to call you the goat passer when your teams average offensive rating ranking is like between 17-25.

so i put him a shade below. def above stockton tho.
 
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I think you are being a little obtuse about this, but if you insist.

Backpacks had good stuff on this.


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"Assists at the rim are a decent indicator of these kinds of high-leverage, quality dishes, and incidentally, Paul’s layups assists (as a percentage of his overall assists) were below-average every year he was a Hornet."
Could have to do with who Paul had on those Hornet teams. Besides Chandler for those few years, who else was really supposed to finish at the rim

West, Peja, Brown, Butler, Thornton, Bellenili don't seem to fit that bill
 
shaq embarrassing himself
the game is in good hands. guys are getting paid and are able to take care of themselves and their families. he really has to put himself in the conversation for what?

old head hating and counting another man's wallet :smh:
 
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