🦉The Official Drake Thread6️⃣ - Drake & PND Album Fall 2024

[godry]

 
writing FOR someone = / Writing WITH someone

This isn't semantics. It's a big difference

Say the reference track is real, would you call that Quentin writing with Drake?

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Its kinda a what's there to see here moment at this point. Homie is all over the album credits, we got the reference track. This isn't just someone casual connection like Drake camp is tryna make it seem. Being objective Drizzy probably does write his own **** but the evidence is here, he gets assistance and clearly a lot of it. The "everybody gets help" argument is null & void here when homie is laying down tracks for you to copycat. Not a huge fan of Drakes music but I'm not tryna hear no more of that drake ft. drake **** Def an asterisk in the books now

 

[heliumclinton]

 
We should change "ghostwriting" to "writing for someone" for the people who like to argue semantics.

writing FOR someone = / Writing WITH someone

This isn't semantics. It's a big difference

Thats I thought

But hey apparently you can be a ghostwriter even if you have writing credits as well

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Kobe ain't win championships alone

 

[broncos19dm]

Heat of the Moment has been getting a lot of spins lately 

 

[pastor glo]

How does that letter in any way negate the audio? If everything was all done, what was the point of Q recording a track?

If "your destined for greatness" why not give him a feature, hook or some type of recognition?

I mean who reaches out to a stranger over the Internet just to be homies and chill in the studio?

It ain't addin up to me

 

[godry]

Thats I thought

But hey apparently you can be a ghostwriter even if you have writing credits as well

 

[flesh prince]

Thats I thought

But hey apparently you can be a ghostwriter even if you have writing credits as well

What does the semantics of ghostwriter vs. credited change if someone still helped him write the raps

That's a pointless side argument

 

[Majorbread]

I don't get how having a writer help = Drake not writing any of his own music for the past 8 years

Especially if QM is just linked IYRTITL... What an even bigger troll by Drake then if you consider that album was to essentially fufill the last album of his CM contract, and he didnt even write it?? genius

This is the definition of the bigger you are, that people cant wait to bring you back down to their level, **** is disgusting, the hate is thick

Drake makes great music, y'all getting lost in the sauce

 

[flesh prince]

Kobe ain't win championships alone

But he did do this alone

Spoiler

 

[degenerate423]

Homie is all over the album credits, we got the reference track.

He's credited on 5 songs... out of 17 .

 

[pastor glo]

 "how is he a ghostwriter if hes credited" argument is comedy

thats like arguing that someone isnt considered an employee if they're getting paid under the table instead of a taxable income

 

[heliumclinton]

 "how is he a ghostwriter if hes credited" argument is comedy

thats like arguing that someone isnt considered an employee if they're getting paid under the table instead of a taxable income

no

 

[the 7th mile]

[emoji]128551[/emoji][emoji]128551[/emoji][emoji]128551[/emoji] The hold Drake got on his fans is crazy!

Some of yall cats really disgust me.

 

[shoeking2102]

 
Say the reference track is real, would you call that Quentin writing with Drake?

Yes because he didn't write the entire song. The entire second verse is written by Drake, and drake slightly changed the 1st verse and the hook.

That's literally the definition of a collaborative effort.

 

[shoeking2102]

 

Because he didn't do the same thing ghostwriters do man. He didn't write the entire song lol

 

[$tacy]

Anybody can write verses tho. What makes songs successful nowadays is the production, hooks and melodies all of which he didn't do. I could've took real sisters from future and added a different 2nd verse and put a few extra words in the hook and it would still be a banger. But its cool #drakehive I'm out, hope he comes back with a WRITTEN for meek or something soon no way he can let this slide.

 

[shoeking2102]

Anybody can write verses tho. What makes songs successful nowadays is the production, hooks and melodies all of which he didn't do. I could've took real sisters from future and added a different 2nd verse and put a few extra words in the hook and it would still be a banger. But its cool #drakehive I'm out, hope he comes back with a WRITTEN for meek or something soon no way he can let this slide.

You're just being a drake hater. 

And please don't start with the Drake hive bs. It isn't about that. It's really about you not understanding the purpose of a reference record. Not to mention you're moving goal post.

Again, the degree that an artist uses a reference record varies. Sometimes it's just a hook, sometimes it's just a line, sometimes it's an entire verse, it all varies. You're taking one reference in which he used a verse and a hook to say Drake doesn't write his own music. That's just silly, and it's clearly wrong.

 

[dh1water]

 
You're just being a drake hater. 

And please don't start with the Drake hive bs. It isn't about that. It's really about you not understanding the purpose of a reference record. Not to mention you're moving goal post.

Again, the degree that an artist uses a reference record varies. Sometimes it's just a hook, sometimes it's just a line, sometimes it's an entire verse, it all varies. You're taking one reference in which he used a verse and a hook to say Drake doesn't write his own music. That's just silly, and it's clearly wrong.

you just being a stan

 

[Gordonson]

Don't waste your time King, just let them get these posts off

Son called Drake a culture vulture in the Meek thread, like this ___'s entire transformation over the last decade from an awkward teen to the biggest rap artist under the age of 30 isn't entirely visible online.

Drake clearly makes my man's eyes turn too red to even hear reason.

 

[shoeking2102]

 
you just being a stan

I don't even stan Drake though. This isn't even a matter of being a stan, it has everything to do with how music is made.

A ghostwriter and a collaborator are not the same things. You can write your own music, and collaborate with others on the piece in the process.

To say Drake doesn't write his own music would be the equivalent of saying virtually every rapper in music doesn't write their own music. 

 

[godry]

 
Because he didn't do the same thing ghostwriters do man. He didn't write the entire song lol

That's exactly what ghostwriters do tho

 

[dh1water]

 
I don't even stan Drake though. This isn't even a matter of being a stan, it has everything to do with how music is made.

A ghostwriter and a collaborator are not the same things. You can write your own music, and collaborate with others on the piece in the process.

To say Drake doesn't write his own music would be the equivalent of saying virtually every rapper in music doesn't write their own music. 

I agree with that.  Rap is a weird culture.  I mean I get it, but take country for example...folks gladly tell you who wrote their song.  It's just a different musical culture I suppose

 

[comptonprince]

Ghostwriter write verses/bars

The artist then makes edits/additions

Drake is a Fraud

QM is the real 6 Gawd

 

[dmvisrnb]

at all the people talking about credits and songwriting when you have no idea what it even entails.

And then caping hard AF after that fact