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'09 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFF-SEASON THREAD-recruiting/Coaching Changes/Transfers
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[h1]AP Source: Brown not expected to sign with Miami[/h1][h3]By TIM REYNOLDS[/h3][h3]AP Sports Writer[/h3]
CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Unless Bryce Brown makes a decision Wednesday, the nation's top-ranked recruit will be going somewhere other than Miami.
The national letter of intent Brown was offered by Miami expires Wednesday, and a person involved in recruiting the running back from Wichita, Kansas told The Associated Press the Hurricanes will not reissue the scholarship offer.
The person spoke on condition of anonymity because neither Brown's representatives nor Miami could authorize him to speak publicly.
"Miami will not give him another letter," the person said.
Brian Butler, Brown's advisor, told The AP that he was unaware those scholarship offers have an expiration date, but reiterated that the U.S. Army All-American - who was wooed by most of the nation's big-time programs, and still is having discussions with several of them - won't be signing until March 16.
"Not until then," said Butler, who handles all of Brown's dealings with media and coaches. "If there's no letter here from Miami on March 16, then I'll get on the phone. So that's up to Miami. Bryce has his timeline set. We're not changing it at all."
Citing NCAA rules, which specifically ban coaches from discussing recruits until their paperwork is filed, Miami coach Randy Shannon refused comment.
Signing day was Feb. 4, and that's the date on the NLI issued to Brown by Miami, which means that paper would be valid until Wednesday.
On Butler's Web site, some of the schools listed as still-in-consideration by Brown included Auburn, Kansas State, Tennessee, Oregon and Southern California. Brown will continue making official visits, and could still come to see Miami's campus in the coming weeks, Butler said.
"He's still committed to Miami," Butler said.
Even without Brown, Miami had one of the nation's highest-ranked recruiting classes this year, a group that included Parade All-American running back Lamar Miller. He rushed for 1,719 yards and 22 touchdowns this past fall for Miami Killian High.
Brown, of Wichita East (Kan.) High, committed to Miami months ago. The brother of Miami linebacker Arthur Brown rushed for 1,873 yards and 29 touchdowns in nine games this past season, averaging 9.2 yards per carry for a team that finished 6-3.
CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Unless Bryce Brown makes a decision Wednesday, the nation's top-ranked recruit will be going somewhere other than Miami.
The national letter of intent Brown was offered by Miami expires Wednesday, and a person involved in recruiting the running back from Wichita, Kansas told The Associated Press the Hurricanes will not reissue the scholarship offer.
The person spoke on condition of anonymity because neither Brown's representatives nor Miami could authorize him to speak publicly.
"Miami will not give him another letter," the person said.
Brian Butler, Brown's advisor, told The AP that he was unaware those scholarship offers have an expiration date, but reiterated that the U.S. Army All-American - who was wooed by most of the nation's big-time programs, and still is having discussions with several of them - won't be signing until March 16.
"Not until then," said Butler, who handles all of Brown's dealings with media and coaches. "If there's no letter here from Miami on March 16, then I'll get on the phone. So that's up to Miami. Bryce has his timeline set. We're not changing it at all."
Citing NCAA rules, which specifically ban coaches from discussing recruits until their paperwork is filed, Miami coach Randy Shannon refused comment.
Signing day was Feb. 4, and that's the date on the NLI issued to Brown by Miami, which means that paper would be valid until Wednesday.
On Butler's Web site, some of the schools listed as still-in-consideration by Brown included Auburn, Kansas State, Tennessee, Oregon and Southern California. Brown will continue making official visits, and could still come to see Miami's campus in the coming weeks, Butler said.
"He's still committed to Miami," Butler said.
Even without Brown, Miami had one of the nation's highest-ranked recruiting classes this year, a group that included Parade All-American running back Lamar Miller. He rushed for 1,719 yards and 22 touchdowns this past fall for Miami Killian High.
Brown, of Wichita East (Kan.) High, committed to Miami months ago. The brother of Miami linebacker Arthur Brown rushed for 1,873 yards and 29 touchdowns in nine games this past season, averaging 9.2 yards per carry for a team that finished 6-3.
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Funk
Well..
I know C-Blocking isn't part of the game
Unless "C" represents a gap in the offensive line or a route of some sort. Then I would consider it part of college football.
And interesting news to hear that Miami isn't going to "renew" the LOI w/ Bryce Brown.
I didn't know they had expiration dates either.
Oregon anybody?
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He's def. Going to Oregon.
UTk had a shot but its dwindling
UTk had a shot but its dwindling
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get it done Bryce
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Just imagine in Tahj would have signed w/ your Ducks. That backfield would have been sickOriginally Posted by dr funk 13
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Funk
Well..
I know C-Blocking isn't part of the game
Unless "C" represents a gap in the offensive line or a route of some sort. Then I would consider it part of college football.
And interesting news to hear that Miami isn't going to "renew" the LOI w/ Bryce Brown.
I didn't know they had expiration dates either.
Oregon anybody?
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Mike Leach could be gone from Texas Tech possibly as early as this Friday...
The AD gave him a deadline of today to accept their contract extension, and he didn't accept it. The Board of Regents are meeting Friday to discuss thesituation. They'll either accept Leach's counteroffer (the contract Leach proposed), or give him the boot.
The AD gave him a deadline of today to accept their contract extension, and he didn't accept it. The Board of Regents are meeting Friday to discuss thesituation. They'll either accept Leach's counteroffer (the contract Leach proposed), or give him the boot.
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I'm not a Leach fan but Tech firing him would be the stupidest move EVER.
They're playing hardball in the negotiating room that's all. No way they could be that DUMB
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There's no way they have the balls to fire him...the AD has already pushed back the "deadline" three times...Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
I'm not a Leach fan but Tech firing him would be the stupidest move EVER.
They're playing hardball in the negotiating room that's all. No way they could be that DUMB
I'll have to look for the article again detailing what's going on, but here's something for now:
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Just saw this. Props to Randy.
We start Spring Football next week and Bryce just wants to wait and see how our offense is looking.
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Tech is playing hardball and frankly, they don't have much leverage... Mike Leach would be out of a job for one season... What does Tech do if Leachleaves? Texas Tech isn't exactly a premier job...
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No kidding.Originally Posted by gobucksBC
Just imagine in Tahj would have signed w/ your Ducks. That backfield would have been sickOriginally Posted by dr funk 13
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Funk
Well..
I know C-Blocking isn't part of the game
Unless "C" represents a gap in the offensive line or a route of some sort. Then I would consider it part of college football.
And interesting news to hear that Miami isn't going to "renew" the LOI w/ Bryce Brown.
I didn't know they had expiration dates either.
Oregon anybody?...actually as long as CK is around you guys will always have a good backfield.
We've still got Darron Thomas who has some serious upside. I'm very excited about his prospects after Masoli leaves.
Oregon is also getting looks from players across the country for the 2010 class. I think we'll be alright. CK clearly has been Oregon's best commit inthe past while.
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Neither side has much leverage anymore...both sides are pretty much losing by getting to this point, which is pretty unfortunate for Leach seeingas how he hasn't really done anything wrong.
If Leach is given the boot, the top two candidates have to be Briles and McNeill. It's way too late to try to get a decent coach right now, and I reallydon't see Briles leaving Baylor at this point to go to Tech.
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I've heard Leach is one weird dude
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Found this regarding the 4 clauses that have essentially been the sticking points...
If the words of Mike Leach and subsequent news reports are to be believed implicitly, there are four stumbling blocks that stand between Leach and an extended contract with Texas Tech University. Those four barriers were termed "unacceptable" by Leach with each individual clause constituting a deal-breaker.
Obviously, much is at stake for both parties in the ongoing dispute and negotiations, and therefore, the clauses were not inserted frivolously, nor is Leach's opposition to them a case of meaningless grandstanding. There are reasons for those clauses, just as there are reasons for Leach's rejection of them.
Leach is seven wins away from being Texas Tech's all-time winningest football coach.
The first clause has to do with the amount of money guaranteed to Leach should the university fire him without cause. Under Leach's existing contract, the guaranteed sum is 40 percent of his base salary. Under the terms of Tech's latest publicized proposal, Leach would receive only 1.5 million dollars of an 11.1 million dollar base, which amounts to 13.5 percent of that base.
The reasons for Leach's opposition to these numbers are clear: he wishes to maximize the money due to him in the event of a non-cause firing, and he wishes to fortify his job security by positioning a large fiscal sword over Tech's head should the university ax Leach over a comparative trifle.
The reasoning behind Tech's position is less clear. Nevertheless, what looks to be a punitive measure against Leach, despite one of the best football seasons in Tech history, could indicate various tensions within the Athletic Department that, while not constituting juridically just cause for termination, could rise to the level of personal cause for Gerald Myers and Myers' superiors in the university administration.
The second clause is the buyout clause, and it is rather straightforward. Currently an entity competing for Leach's services would have to recompense Texas Tech with half a million dollars should they hire him away. Under the new proposal that number is $300,000 for every year remaining; meaning it would at first be $1.5 million but decrease every year.
Tech's interest in this clause is readily apparent; the university would like to make it prohibitively expensive for other entities to pry Leach away, and in the process secure the stability of the football program over the long haul.
Leach, conversely, seeks as much personal latitude as possible and the bargaining power that comes with being a sought-after commodity. A massive buyout clause significantly diminishes that freedom and renders him a university asset rather than an agent on his own behalf.
Clause three, at least according to the letter of the document, endeavors to restrict Leach's pursuit of other job opportunities while under contract with the university. Specifically, it mandates that Leach first receive permission from Myers before speaking with other prospective employers. Leach's current contract contains no such language.
Given Leach's history of dalliance with other universities at the conclusion of past football seasons, it is obvious that Tech is seeking to curtail this activity which may be construed as harmful to the university and its football program.
Leach, yet again, is seeking to preserve as much of his personal freedom as possible by rejecting this clause.
There has been mention that Tech may change the language of the clause, replacing "permission" with "notification." This would certainly enhance Leach's latitude, but it is not clear how the requirement of mere notification would thwart his pursuit of other positions, which is the gravamen behind the clause to begin with.
The final clause would allow the university to acquire "coach's rights for outside athletics related income." The language is the same that is in the contracts of all of the other head coaches on campus, and indicates Tech's desire to recoup some of the money owed to Leach through his involvement with fund-raising.
If this is the case, Leach's freedom to spend his "down time" as he sees fit would be diminished, and that could well be the gist of his objection to the clause.
Boiled to the bare bones, the essence of the struggle between Tech and Mike Leach, as indicated by the offending clauses, is one of Texas Tech's security versus Leach's freedom. Money is not the issue.
Hitherto, Leach has enjoyed a tremendous amount of freedom vis-à-vis Texas Tech. If he is to continue as the university's coach over the long haul it is likely that he will have to surrender some of that freedom. How much is the imponderable.
The first clause seems almost pathetic on Texas Tech's end... Only 13.5% of my contract is guaranteed to me if you decide to go anotherdirection? Hell no...
Clause #3 seems a tad ridiculous as well, though I'm not familiar with how prevalent that kind of thing is nation wide...
I've heard Leach is one weird dude
Yeah, he absolutely is...
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FTI was right. Joyner is officially part of the student body at STA. Rich getting richer...
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STA is gonna be soooo nasty this year
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i haven't read this thread but what's going on with robert marve?
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Here's a link to some future SEC OOC games. Tennessee has a buttload of them. Most schools have some good games in the coming years.
http://myespn.go.com/blog...ents-for-SEC-schools.html
But...
at Florida
If they're such the all-world team everybody says they are, why don't they schedule some decent games?
Their OOC games this year are just pathetic.
Charleston Southern?
Florida International?
C'mon.
http://myespn.go.com/blog...ents-for-SEC-schools.html
But...
If they're such the all-world team everybody says they are, why don't they schedule some decent games?
Their OOC games this year are just pathetic.
Charleston Southern?
Florida International?
C'mon.
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Originally Posted by dr funk 13
Here's a link to some future SEC OOC games. Tennessee has a buttload of them. Most schools have some good games in the coming years.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sec/0-5-75/Future-opponents-for-SEC-schools.htmlhttp://myespn.go.com/blog...ents-for-SEC-schools.html
But...
at Florida
If they're such the all-world team everybody says they are, why don't they schedule some decent games?
Their OOC games this year are just pathetic.
Charleston Southern?
Florida International?
C'mon.
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UT has always been a team to play a strong oOc schedule. Its how they build their recruiting base around the States
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Speaking of OOC, Michigan plays Delaware St., WMU, EMU, and of course ND. There's 3 wins to help RRod keep his job. Also, only 4 road games, with PSU andtOSU at home.
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Those games won't be gimmies for Michigan.
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True. Western is just as good as Toledo was.
