2/19 WWE Elimination Chamber PPV - Raw & SD EC Matches, Cena vs Kane, Prediction Contest (p40)

Originally Posted by CelticsPride34

I don't understand the hate on Orton... dude is a great in ring worker... personaly he's number 3 in my book behind Dragon and Ziggles... he's been putting guys over for the past year... its not his fault he's booked to be Superman... he used to be a diva, deuche, a hole, and injury prone... now'shes just an a hole, which I don't view as a bad thing... give home credit he is light years ahead of Cena in every category.. there always must be an elite 3-5 guys and you can't hate on them for that... if they wasn't considered elite than RKO putting Mizark over would mean nothing...
I have no problem with Orton either.  I used to, but in the past year he's put on very good matches and been willing to put guys over.  Sure, he's a **** in real life, but whatever.  I don't know if I'd rank him #3, but he's definitely one of the best guys in WWE.
The biggest thing against him is that his character is stale.
 
Originally Posted by brasilianmami

why does anyone think that orton was winning the title at EC in the first place?

dudes really thought orton was gonna face sheamus at WM for the title?

Does it make sense, not really.  But Orton has been losing, and losing, and losing.  I could have seen WWE getting him in there.  Even with him out of EC, I could still  see a 3 way between Bryan, Sheamus, and Orton at Mania.
 
Originally Posted by hombrelobo


D. Bry's Yes gimmick.. who came up with it?
"I don't think anyone but Bryan is behind that. He just did it one day and the road agents liked it."
DIEGO SANCHEZ

Any network programming news?
"I don't really know much about the network since it's not really my division. I heard that they want to pull a Disney channel and produce a WWE made for TV movie every month and air it on the network though."
LOL this is even worse than their original programming ideas.

Future plans for D. Bry?
"As long as Bryan stays on Smackdown he'll continue to be around the main event. The idea with him right now is that it doesn't matter who he feuds with, it'll produce good results. Sin Cara is expected to work with Bryan when he returns. It's very likely that Bryan will be in the championship match at Wrestlemania. Whether he'll be the champion or not though, hard to say. Bryan is impressing the right people. Bryan had a lot of support from pretty much all of the younger writers. The seniors were the hesitant ones but I think he's winning them over now. The real test will come when he inevitably loses the title. How a wrestler performs when they go from spotlight to middle of the card means a lot to those people. Big Show won't win unless for some reason half of the chamber gets injured beforehand. "
Uh oh.... Especially with Shaq possibly falling through.

What's the deal with Drew Mac?
"Trying to turn him face. The Raw team gave him back to us at a really bad time, but after Wrestlemania I have some faith."
They'll just keep firing him every week.  Because firing/losing streaks always get guys over huge.
 
Originally Posted by Scott Frost

After the disaster that was the Rumble, I am going to pass on EC and wait until Mania. Although WWE PPV's are great Sunday night mindless viewing


May skip WM too. WM27 had the potential to be the greatest WM ever but they mucked it up hoping the Rock/HHH v Undertaker could steal the show























They have a long track record of destroying easy PPV cards with TomFoolery
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Originally Posted by hombrelobo

What's the deal with MITB @ Mania?
"MITB is almost definitely happening. Cody vs. Goldust is almost set in stone at this point but there's also some that want him in the MITB match instead. Sheamus winning the Rumble was a last-minute decision, Triple H suggested it would be less predictable and more beneficial."
Surprised about Cody/Goldust.  They seemed to have completely dropped this.

Is Miz donezo?
"There's definitely heat but not enough to ruin his career or anything. The fact that Truth isn't injured helped."
I disagree about not enough to ruin his career.

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/res/1897774.php#1897955What do people in the back think of Dunn?
"He's not popular by any means. I'd say most of the older employees aren't very well liked by the young team."
Vince loves him.  Until Vince is gone, KD stays.

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/res/1897774.php#1897960What happened to the Jerimiah kid from TE?
"He showed no respect for anyone, got in Dusty's face, called the other wrestlers (Rollins included) generic, put himself over by saying he'd do way better than they would. Stuff like that. He will never get a job working for this company."
God forbid someone isn't a company yes man.  Jerimiah's post Tough Enough interviews on Observer Radio and The Law were awesome.

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/res/1897774.php#1897972Why the %#*! is Khali back? Ring Ka King?
"Khali was rehired in part because Jinder Mahal isn't getting over.
LOL, you mean getting squashed every week by Sheamus wasn't getting him over with the crowd? I can't believe it.

What's the general feeling on Sin Cara?
"A lot of denial. I think everyone still expects him to bounce back and become one of the biggest draws in the company."
As long as he keeps selling tons of merchandise, he'll have a spot on the upper midcard.  I really hope he's learning English in this time off.

What does the company look at when hiring?
"Look and mic skills are the #1 and #2 things that are looked at first. Next would be in-ring talent and backstage personality. If you're a nice guy who has a good look and can talk on the mic, you'll probably go far. Being a good worker is more of a bonus."
Hilarious that they want mic skills when the guys never get a chance to speak for themselves.

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/res/1897774.php#1897998Are the intentionally %$#+$%* over my boy Zack Ryder?
"I don't think it's intentional. Zack Ryder has a lot of support."
Not from the right people apparently.

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/res/1897774.php#1898001Will Regal ever get a ME push?
"We've discussed Regal getting the title many times. Recently there was a movement to try to push him into a feud with Bryan at Wrestlemania but it didn't get enough steam. Every time we bring it up the seniors bring up his wellness violation that ended his last push."
He's too old for Vince to push, that's the bottom line.
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What is the attitude of Creative to people like Ryder who get over outside the mechanism of the shows? Do you think they felt forced to push him and/or disappointed with how he did?
"It's good that they're being proactive as long as they don't go too far. Ryder very very nearly went too far but luckily for him he did well enough for it to not matter."
This may be the attitude of the younger writers, but not the senior level people.  We've seen it time and time again.

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/res/1897774.php#1898033Views on Cody/Barrett?
"Barrett isn't as hot as he once was but he's still a future world champion. You can quote me on that. No plans to take the belt from Cody yet."
I think Barrett is as over as he's been since the start of the Nexus.  Plus, he's a much better performer now.  He really comes across as a main eventer.

What is up with NXT?
"I don't know what went wrong with NXT. They moved me off the team after 3 and since then everyone seems pretty uncaring about it. I think it's going to become the third brand pretty soon."
3000 people a week watch the show on Youtube.  Why would anyone care?

Does anyone watch TNA?
"The last time anyone really talked about TNA was when they let Jeff Hardy wrestle in their main event stoned out of his mind. I have never heard a company get buried more than TNA during that week."
I really wish someone watched this week, because it was really distasteful to do the neck injury angle with Ryder this week after Sorensen's injury.

Who's going to have a huge 2012?
"I think Cena but if that's too obvious I would say Sheamus."
I'm really, really interested to see how Cena is booked going into Mania, and more importantly, what happens to him after Mania.  I expect him to get the win at Mania over The Rock.  Of course he'll still get his superman push, but I think all fans, not just the adult males, may start to turn on him.

Is Skip going to be coming to the roster soon?
"Everyone is still high on Skip. Probably after WM."
This goes for anyone not currently on the active roster... there is no reason to add anyone new between now and Mania.   They will just get lost in the shuffle.

Is the Cena/Kane storyline a bust?
"The Kane storyline is considered a success and I'm inclined to agree. I like it a lot.
THIS IS WHY WWE IS SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH WHAT WRESTLING FANS WANT.  What a +$$$%*! moron.  I lost all respect for everything I've read from this dude now.
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Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Lobo, how was the crowd? Both attendance and heat.

On pg. 23 you can see the side where the hard cameras are. Usually that side is empty for SmackDown. But it was pretty much filled up this time around. The rest of the arena was filled up as well.

Good was very responsive per usual. We always have a pretty hot crowd.
 
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What the hells been goin on in here???

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@ "Not sure if racist"

I'm probably mad late, but am I the only one who noticed a guy with a rolled up piece of paper poke Kane
in the back to signal him to go on with the segment while Eve was going to sit down?? I replayed that back
like 6 times and couldn't believe what I was seeing
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Originally Posted by gunnascott

Originally Posted by Scott Frost

After the disaster that was the Rumble, I am going to pass on EC and wait until Mania. Although WWE PPV's are great Sunday night mindless viewing


May skip WM too. WM27 had the potential to be the greatest WM ever


   What? how do you figure that?

WM27 had one of the worst cards in the event's history. and frankly, a pretty forgettable event in general.


Rhodes/Mysterio, Orton/Punk, and parts of Trips/Taker II were the only aspects of the show I found enjoyable.
 
Brodus Clay is a waste of time. instead of giving him time to develop in ring skills how about they bring up some guys like Dean Ambrose or Claudio Castagonoi. you can argue that tyler black isnt that good on the mic but neither was john morrision and tyler black can surely get over more than morrision.but dont bring them up until after mania .
 
Originally Posted by VeintiSiete

Originally Posted by gunnascott

Originally Posted by Scott Frost

After the disaster that was the Rumble, I am going to pass on EC and wait until Mania. Although WWE PPV's are great Sunday night mindless viewing


May skip WM too. WM27 had the potential to be the greatest WM ever


   What? how do you figure that?

WM27 had one of the worst cards in the event's history. and frankly, a pretty forgettable event in general.


Rhodes/Mysterio, Orton/Punk, and parts of Trips/Taker II were the only aspects of the show I found enjoyable.

I mean they could have put on the best WM ever if they used their workers right

John Cena v. The Miz w/ Rock only as special guest Ref
HHH v Undertaker
Alberto Del Rio v Edge
Rey Mysterio v Cody Rhodes
Orton v Punk
Sheamus v D Bry
MITB Ladder match and No PPV version
The Corre v Kane Big Show Bourne and Kingston
  
 
Originally Posted by Peep Game

 I'm probably mad late, but am I the only one who noticed a guy with a rolled up piece of paper poke Kane
in the back to signal him to go on with the segment while Eve was going to sit down?? I replayed that back
like 6 times and couldn't believe what I was seeing
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just noticed that 
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Originally Posted by hellaones

Originally Posted by Peep Game

 I'm probably mad late, but am I the only one who noticed a guy with a rolled up piece of paper poke Kane
in the back to signal him to go on with the segment while Eve was going to sit down?? I replayed that back
like 6 times and couldn't believe what I was seeing
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just noticed that
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WOW
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I love Eve just casually walking into the ambulance as well
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Start up the clip at 1:13:37
 
Originally Posted by hellaones

Originally Posted by Peep Game

 I'm probably mad late, but am I the only one who noticed a guy with a rolled up piece of paper poke Kane
in the back to signal him to go on with the segment while Eve was going to sit down?? I replayed that back
like 6 times and couldn't believe what I was seeing
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just noticed that 
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lmao i didnt see it but i just rewatched on youtube. got me
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but this whole storyline is terrible. just a big mess
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Originally Posted by MoodMuzik75

Brodus Clay is a waste of time. instead of giving him time to develop in ring skills how about they bring up some guys like Dean Ambrose or Claudio Castagonoi. you can argue that tyler black isnt that good on the mic but neither was john morrision and tyler black can surely get over more than morrision.but dont bring them up until after mania .
I agree with you about Claudio and Dean, but Clay actually is very good in the ring, with a very nice moveset (based on
NXT & Superstars). The problem is (I think) that that gimmick really doesn't allow him to go all out like that. Plus, how

does Vince think he's not all there in the ring, when his matches have only been as long as Diva matches?? Does he expect

25 moves in under 2 minutes???
 
Originally Posted by Peep Game

Originally Posted by MoodMuzik75

Brodus Clay is a waste of time. instead of giving him time to develop in ring skills how about they bring up some guys like Dean Ambrose or Claudio Castagonoi. you can argue that tyler black isnt that good on the mic but neither was john morrision and tyler black can surely get over more than morrision.but dont bring them up until after mania .
I agree with you about Claudio and Dean, but Clay actually is very good in the ring, with a very nice moveset (based on
NXT & Superstars). The problem is (I think) that that gimmick really doesn't allow him to go all out like that. Plus, how

does Vince think he's not all there in the ring, when his matches have only been as long as Diva matches?? Does he expect

25 moves in under 2 minutes???

Of course he expects that
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BergenBrennan John Brennan

Breaking: Meadowlands' MetLife Stadium to host Wrestlemania in 2013; Giants/Jets hope event draws 70,000+

41 minutes ago

I want WM 30 at MSG but i have a strong feeling Wrestlemania 30 will go to the Jerry Jones Playground in Arlington, TX.
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Originally Posted by gunnascott

Originally Posted by Peep Game

Originally Posted by MoodMuzik75

Brodus Clay is a waste of time. instead of giving him time to develop in ring skills how about they bring up some guys like Dean Ambrose or Claudio Castagonoi. you can argue that tyler black isnt that good on the mic but neither was john morrision and tyler black can surely get over more than morrision.but dont bring them up until after mania .
I agree with you about Claudio and Dean, but Clay actually is very good in the ring, with a very nice moveset (based on
NXT & Superstars). The problem is (I think) that that gimmick really doesn't allow him to go all out like that. Plus, how

does Vince think he's not all there in the ring, when his matches have only been as long as Diva matches?? Does he expect

25 moves in under 2 minutes???

Of course he expects that
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of course
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Originally Posted by BOBtheHOE




BergenBrennan John Brennan

Breaking: Meadowlands' MetLife Stadium to host Wrestlemania in 2013; Giants/Jets hope event draws 70,000+

41 minutes ago

I want WM 30 at MSG but i have a strong feeling Wrestlemania 30 will go to the Jerry Jones Playground in Arlington, TX.
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The Final Four is at Cowboys Stadium in 2014, so WM almost certainly won't be there.
 
Originally Posted by brasilianmami

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Originally Posted by NobleKane

man someone should do a jack black in anchorman to one of your cats for that remark...
Awwww, let's all cry over a drugged out celebrity.  I can only imagine how you'll react when Kobe is murdered by one of his rape victims.

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4wrestling always been a closet racist 
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 i remember him making some remarks about my mom being a cleaning lady he SWEARS hes never said. 
I remember everything.

but then again it is 4wrestling. the epitome of pathetic 
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