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L.....M.....A.....OOriginally Posted by cacz0rz
pacquiao vs money mayweather would be a bestter fight than cotto williams mosley margarito and cintron combined
Originally Posted by Proshares
Did anyone get a chance to see the new P4P rankings on ESPN? I skimmed over the list yesterday but it was a Free Insider Preview.
Originally Posted by kicks4days
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by: dennis PRINCIPE
APART from Oscar Dela Hoya, add Ricky Hatton and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in the mix when it comes to possible future foes for Manny Pacquiao.
In an interview with the daily morning Philippine radio program "Sports Chat" last Tuesday, American trainer Freddie Roach said Hatton is being mentioned by Golden Boy Promotions as a potential opponent for Pacquiao.
"They're talking about Manny Pacquiao as future opponent for somebody like Ricky Hatton down the line," said Roach.
http://sportschat.multiply.com/photos/hi-res/upload/R194LAoKCDMAAEt19hI1Pacquiao, who will be celebrating his 29[sup]th[/sup] birthday on the 17[sup]th[/sup], is set to challenge bitter Mexican rival Juan Manuel Marquez, the World Boxing Council (WBC) super featherweight champion, on March 15 at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Roach said these developments make the Marquez fight very crucial for Pacquiao, especially if Hatton decides to return to his natural weight at 140.
Roach said a Dela Hoya-Pacquiao fight, which has been talked about the past couple of weeks, looks unfeasible for the hall-of-fame trainer.
I don't believe Oscar can go down to 147. I'm not that sure if that will work out. But against Ricky Hatton who's maybe just as popular in his home country, it will be a huge fight for everybody," added Roach. "That makes the Marquez fight that much more important for Manny."
In the same interview, Roach laid out his initial training plans for Pacquiao in preparation for the Marquez fight.
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Mayweather comes down to 140 we could have another mega fight
Manny Pacman vs. Money Mayweather
And Pacquiao gets by destroyed by Hatton, Mayweather & De La Hoya. He also loses to Katsidis, Juan Diaz, and Nate Campbell at lightweight.
Amo, just broke a lot hearts on NT with that comment
Amo, just broke a lot hearts on NT with that commentOriginally Posted by Stringer Bell 32
And Pacquiao gets by destroyed by Hatton, Mayweather & De La Hoya. He also loses to Katsidis, Juan Diaz, and Nate Campbell at lightweight.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. solidified his place atop the Yahoo! Sports boxing rankings with his 10th-round stoppage of Ricky Hatton on Saturday.
It did not, though, come without a price. Mayweather said Thursday that he was in great pain throughout his training camp and that he needs a long rest to allow back, elbow and hand injuries to heal.
Mayweather said Thursday by telephone from New York, where he was taping a segment for HBO's rebroadcast of his fight with Hatton, that he injured his elbow during sparring with Carlos Baldomir.
He further added that his upper back was hurting, which limited his mobility.
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"Boxing has taken one hell of a toll on me and my body is breaking down now," the 30-year-old Mayweather said, five days after his 39th professional fight. "I'm not the same now as when I was younger. My body is telling me the time is getting close when I can't do this any more."
He said he needs a long vacation and wouldn't commit to fighting again at all. While he stopped short of saying he's going to retire, he said he won't fight unless his body feels better than it does now.
He praised his most logical next potential opponent, WBA welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, but wouldn't commit to facing the Puerto Rican star at some point.
"I don't have to beat anyone to prove anything about my skills and my talents, because my credentials speak for themselves," Mayweather said. "Cotto is a good, young fighter; a good, young champion. I have nothing negative to say about him. He has had some nice wins. There are a lot of good, young fighters out there. He's definitely one of them, maybe one of the best."
Mayweather said he had the television turned down in his locker room before the fight and said he wasn't aware the largely British crowd was so resoundingly booing the U.S. national anthem.
A member of the 1996 U.S. Olympic team, Mayweather said he could hear the crowd booing but wasn't sure what it was about. When he learned of it after the fight, he said he was upset.
"It brought tears to my eyes," he said. "I was on the Olympics. I represented my country. This victory, more than any other I've had, I fought for my country. I had my country on my back. I was respectful toward Ricky Hatton and all of his fans, but that was totally disrespectful to this country. I'm pretty sure Ricky Hatton would tell you that was wrong, too. It bothers me they did that."
The top seven spots in the rankings remained as they were in November. Hatton dropped out and the fighters who were below him moved up a notch.
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Points: 198 (18 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 39-0 (25 KOs)
Title: WBC welterweight champion
Last outing: Stopped Ricky Hatton in the 10th on Dec. 8
Last month's ranking: 1
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Clearly the most complete and most gifted fighter in the world
2. Manny Pacquiao
Points: 171 (1 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 45-3-2 (35 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: Won a unanimous decision over Marco Antonio Barrera on Oct. 6
Last month's ranking: 2
Up next: Fights No. 6 Juan Manuel Marquez on March 15 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Continues to face top opposition
3. Joe Calzaghe
Points: 159 (1 of 20 first-place votes)
Record: 44-0 (32 KOs)
Title: WBA, WBC, WBO super middleweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Mikkel Kessler on Nov. 3
Last month's ranking: 3
Up next: Negotiating for spring bout with No. 5 Bernard Hopkins
Analysis: A win over Hopkins would greatly raise his profile among American fans.
4. Miguel Cotto
Points: 122
Record: 31-0 (25 KOs)
Title: WBA welterweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Shane Mosley on Nov. 10
Last month's ranking: 4
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Fans are beginning to clamor for a 2008 match with Mayweather
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
Points: 92
Record: 48-3-1 (35 KOs)
Title: WBC super featherweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over Rocky Juarez on Nov. 3
Last month's ranking: 6
Up next: Faces No. 2 Manny Pacquiao on March 15 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Vastly underrated boxer
6. Bernard Hopkins
Points: 91
Record: 48-4 (32 KOs)
Title: Light heavyweight champion
Last outing: Won unanimous decision over No. 10 Winky Wright on July 21
Last month's ranking: 5
Up next: Negotiating for spring bout with No. 3 Joe Calzaghe
Analysis: Could move into third-spot with win over Calzaghe
7. Israel Vazquez
Points: 60
Record: 42-4 (31 KOs)
Title: WBC super bantamweight champion
Last outing: Stopped Rafael Marquez in probable Fight of the Year on Aug. 5 in Hidalgo, Texas
Last month's ranking: 7
Up next: Fights rubber match with Marquez on March 1
Analysis: The best of the lower weight fighters (under 126)
8. Kelly Pavlik
Points: 58
Record: 32-0 (29 KOs)
Title: WBC, WBO middleweight champion
Last outing: Won middleweight title with seventh-round TKO of Jermain Taylor on Sept. 29
Last month's ranking: 9
Up next: Rematch with Taylor on Feb. 16 in Las Vegas
Analysis: Hardest puncher in the top 10
9. Juan Diaz
Points: 32
Record: 33-0 (17 KOs)
Title: IBF, WBA, WBO lightweight champion
Last outing: Unified belts with ninth-round TKO of Julio Diaz on Oct. 13
Last month's ranking: T10
Up next: Considering bout with mandatory challenger Michael Katsidis
Analysis: Volume puncher always delivers an exciting show
10. Winky Wright
Points: 24
Record: 51-4-1 (25 KOs)
Title: None
Last outing: Lost unanimous decision to No. 5 Bernard Hopkins on July 21
Last month's ranking: T10
Up next: Nothing scheduled
Analysis: Waiting in the wings if negotiations for a Hopkins-Calzaghe fizzle
Others receiving votes: Ricky Hatton, 17; Ivan Calderon, 14; Rafael Marquez, 13; Wladimir Klitschko, 12; Paul Williams, 11; Chad Dawson, 6; Chris John, 5; Cristian Mijares, 5; Shane Mosley, 3; Mikkel Kessler, 2; Jermain Taylor, 2.
Kevin Iole rankings.
your not alone, im going to ask my die hards in here GUNNA,stringer and AMO why the hell does manny keep getting all this hype like he is good. dudeant that nice IMO and if he moves up in weight to fight anyone good he is going to get beat downOriginally Posted by Air 23 AJ
Anyone else believe Manny Pacquiao is overrated? He won't be very good if he moves up in weight and fights the baby bull Juan Diaz and i think if he goes up to 140 he will get KNOCKED OUT in any fight he is overrated for beating up 2 old fighters in Barrera and Morales and he didn't win IMO vs Juan Manuel Marquez but the rematch Marquez will win for sure he knows how to beat Pacquiao.
BREAKING NEWS: DIAZ-KATSIDIS FIGHT IS A NO GO
By Dong Secuya
PhilBoxing.com
Fri, 14 Dec 2007
GUADALAJARA, MEXICO -- Topnotch matchmaker Sampson Lewkowicz said that the highly anticipated fight between world champion Juan Diaz Of Mexico and Michael Katsidis of Australia scheduled on February 9 next year in the United States wouldn't push through.
"Someone botched during the negotiation and purse bidding so we ended up with no fight," Lewkowicz, who is in Guadalajara for the Solis-Batawang fight, told PhilBoxing.com.
Earlier, Golden Boy Promotions has earned the right to promote the Diaz-Katsidis fight by winning the purse bidding of the fight for 1.5 million dollars. The agreement calls for 1.2 million dollars going to Diaz and 300,000 dollars to Katsidis. It was also reported that both Katsidis and Diaz have already signed the contract. Don King Promotions, who holds Diaz's promotional right for one more fight, and any other promoter did not participate in the bidding.
The catch however is that Don King Promotions, who promotes Juan Diaz and who has one last fight for Diaz until March next year has a fine print in his contract with Diaz that states that "DKP (Don King Promotions) has the exclusive right to promote the last bout of Juan Diaz." The 'exclusivity' phrase pretty much negate any agreement entered into by Juan Diaz with any other promoter for his next fight.
Asked whose fault was it, Lewkowicz would say that "Willie Savannah, Diaz's manager, had a copy of the contract with him all the time but apparently failed to review it. Now, I've got a copy of the contract and I would say it's a no go."
Would it still be possible for the fight to push through if Don King would be involved? "Well, money talks. But at this time I highly doubt if the fight would ever materialize," Lewkowicz concluded.
Anyone else believe Manny Pacquiao is overrated? He won't be very good if he moves up in weight and fights the baby bull Juan Diaz and i think if he goes up to 140 he will get KNOCKED OUT in any fight he is overrated for beating up 2 old fighters in Barrera and Morales and he didn't win IMO vs Juan Manuel Marquez but the rematch Marquez will win for sure he knows how to beat Pacquiao.
Who is in his weight class that should be rated higher? Hes coming from light flyweight all the way to super featherweight. He destroyed MAB in 2003 TKO himfor the first time in his career. MAB was 29 years old so i dont know what you define as over the hill. Juan Diaz started at 144 he has come down to 135 itsnot like he started at flyweight and moved up. Manny will have trouble if he tries to fight with the Big Boys but i dont know about being "not verygood" or even knocked out.
yo jag, what fight is your avy from?
Like gunna said, it's from the Hopkins-Trinidad fight when Hopkins finished him off in the 12th.
kicks4days:Who is in his weight class that should be rated higher? Hes coming from light flyweight all the way to super featherweight. He destroyed MAB in 2003 TKO him for the first time in his career. MAB was 29 years old so i dont know what you define as over the hill.
Marco Antonio Barrera started his boxing career at the young age of 15 i believe and he has been boxing for 14years so Manny Pacquiao definitley beat a washed up Barrera at 29 years of age as well as Erik Morales they have both started boxing young and been in wars andit caught up to them. Manny was just up and coming and is in his prime right now but NO WAY is he in the top P4P RANKINGS.