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I was just checking BoxRec and it has David Diaz as Pac-Man's next opponent
2008 NT Boxing Post Vol. Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao 12/6/08 HBO PPV
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Boxrec also had Yankee Stadium as the venue for Hopkins-Calzaghe which was nothing more then Hopkins fantasy. So I don't really trust them for officialnews when it comes to future fights and/or venues since they've had some other strange stuff up as well.
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String, never believe boxing rec.
I agree with BigMike's unbiased belief that De La Hoya would KO Pac-Man within a few rounds. Like Amo said there are lower tier fighters at that weightthat would put Pac-Man away.
Rafael just posted up his P4P rankings and still has Cotto at 6th, even though he writes that he is still amazed that some people underrate him. How are yougoing to write that and then put him at 6? He slides in there at #3 in my opinion, especially considering his recent body of work/activity.
I agree with BigMike's unbiased belief that De La Hoya would KO Pac-Man within a few rounds. Like Amo said there are lower tier fighters at that weightthat would put Pac-Man away.
Rafael just posted up his P4P rankings and still has Cotto at 6th, even though he writes that he is still amazed that some people underrate him. How are yougoing to write that and then put him at 6? He slides in there at #3 in my opinion, especially considering his recent body of work/activity.
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Boxrec also had Yankee Stadium as the venue for Hopkins-Calzaghe which was nothing more then Hopkins fantasy. So I don't really trust them for official news when it comes to future fights and/or venues since they've had some other strange stuff up as well.
That would have been awesome
String, never believe boxing rec.
I love boxrec
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Shane Mosley freely admits to jumping from the lightweight division to welterweight in the late '90s in order to challenge Oscar De La Hoya. Mosley, the reigning IBF lightweight titlist at the time, skipped over the 140-pound division knowing that his eventual showdown with the Golden Boy, which occurred in June of 2000, would earn him instant mainstream respect and millions of dollars.
So former the three-division title holder says he can't blame welterweight champ Floyd Mayweather Jr. for accepting a return match with De La Hoya later this year instead of taking on the many formidable challengers that reside in the 147-pound division. Mosley, 36 years old but still very much a player at welterweight as evidenced by his closely contested decision loss to Miguel Cotto last November, believes that he will eventually meet up with the current pound-for-pound king, along with every other notable 147 pounder.
The grand "old man" of the division says he wants to eventually clean out the deep welterweight division, starting with Zab Judah on May 31st.
"It's not enough to beat Judah and to fight Cotto again; and it's not enough just winning a world title," Mosley told the media this past Saturday at a Las Vegas press conference held at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, the site of his spring showdown with Judah. "I want to beat all of the top welterweights; I want to dominate the division."
"Everybody knows that I chased [Mosley] for years," Judah told the press. "He skipped an entire weight class to get away from me. I've been after that boy forever and he wouldn't fight me until his back was against the wall and he was at the end of his career. But now I'm going to show him why he avoided me for all those years."
Mosley laughs off Judah's claims.
The respected veteran has fought most of his peers of this era - the popular boxers everyone wanted to fight (De La Hoya and Fernando Vargas) as well as the tough nuts who were often avoided (Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright) - and win or lose, "Sugar Shane" was always willing to fight them in rematches, often in back-to-back contests.
"I learned some things about my style fighting Cotto," Mosley said. "I went into that fight knowing I was the better athlete but it didn't matter; he still beat me to the punch.
"After each fight, I always review it and reflect on the good things I did and the bad things I did. I also look at what my opponent did. With the Cotto fight I looked at what he did to get the judges to score more rounds for him.
"I learned what made Cotto 'faster' than me was his technique. He stayed within his game, while I was trying to hurt him with every punch and knock him out. I was looking to throw hard with every shot instead of just landing punches, like he did, and being ready to follow up.
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I like Shane by UD
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As I always state...I just can't root against Zab. Only against Cotto, and that was tough. Zab needs to go for broke against Mosley, he needs the W inthe worse way.
Speakin' of ol' Super Judah...
Speakin' of ol' Super Judah...
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[h1]It's all about the networks[/h1]
posted: Thursday, March 20, 2008 | Print Entry
Boxing back on network television. It is the Holy Grail for many in the fight game. Promoters long for the days of regular coverage, when it was the norm tofind weekend boxing cards on ABC, CBS and NBC, sometimes competing against each other. The fighters got great exposure, which helped them become attractions,and it provided a middle class of license fees below the millions paid by HBO and Showtime.
Fans got a lot of excellent bouts that weren't on pay-per-view, or even on the premium cable networks, which cost a monthly fee. But those days vanished inthe mid-1990s with only the occasional fight landing on free TV since, such as the handful that NBC aired as part of an ill-fated deal with Main Events a fewyears ago. Perhaps that could change. That's what Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions is actively working on, according to CEORichard Schaefer. If anyone can do it, Schaefer and De La Hoya probably can. At the very least, they have been able to bring severalmainstream sponsors aboard to support Golden Boy's fights, such as Tecate, Southwest Airlines and Rockstar Energy Drink. Bringing boxing back to networktelevision would be another huge accomplishment, one that Schaefer believes they can pull off.
"There is an opportunity," he said. He said that during a recent trip to New York "we had some conversations with several networks which areavailable and interested in boxing and in doing something with Golden Boy." Schaefer didn't want to go into the specifics but he sure soundedconfident. One thing that Schaefer did several months ago was hire Bruce Binkow as Golden Boy's chief marketing officer. Binkow, for thoseunfamiliar with him, has quite a bit of experience in the field. Among his accomplishments, he was heavily involved in bringing the beach volleyball tour tonetwork television a few years ago. "We selected him because he is experienced.
They were able to attract major sponsors, McDonald's and Ford, for the volleyball tour, big-time mainstream companies," Schaefer said."That's what we need in boxing. That's why we hired him." Schaefer acknowledged that boxing on network television might have to begin as atime buy, but he said it would be possible with strong sponsors behind it. It is Binkow's task to line them up. "We are actively working with a coupleof networks to see how we can structure a deal on how we can bring boxing back on network television this year," Schaefer said. "Bruce has workedwith several networks and is evaluating where we can structure the best deal. I feel pretty comfortable with it. It's a lot of work, but it's a perfectenvironment." Schaefer knows how important network fights can be for the future of the sport.
He looks no further than his own boss, De La Hoya, who gained tremendous exposure on network television when he won the 1992 Olympic gold medal and fought someof his early pro bouts on network TV before going on to become the biggest star in the sport. "This is 2008, an Olympic year, and there's the factthat Oscar's career is coming to an end and Oscar's first fight was on network television," he said. "It would be a nice thing for Oscar togo full circle and be able to provide an opportunity for some of these young kids to be on network television."
posted: Thursday, March 20, 2008 | Print Entry
Boxing back on network television. It is the Holy Grail for many in the fight game. Promoters long for the days of regular coverage, when it was the norm tofind weekend boxing cards on ABC, CBS and NBC, sometimes competing against each other. The fighters got great exposure, which helped them become attractions,and it provided a middle class of license fees below the millions paid by HBO and Showtime.
Fans got a lot of excellent bouts that weren't on pay-per-view, or even on the premium cable networks, which cost a monthly fee. But those days vanished inthe mid-1990s with only the occasional fight landing on free TV since, such as the handful that NBC aired as part of an ill-fated deal with Main Events a fewyears ago. Perhaps that could change. That's what Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions is actively working on, according to CEORichard Schaefer. If anyone can do it, Schaefer and De La Hoya probably can. At the very least, they have been able to bring severalmainstream sponsors aboard to support Golden Boy's fights, such as Tecate, Southwest Airlines and Rockstar Energy Drink. Bringing boxing back to networktelevision would be another huge accomplishment, one that Schaefer believes they can pull off.
"There is an opportunity," he said. He said that during a recent trip to New York "we had some conversations with several networks which areavailable and interested in boxing and in doing something with Golden Boy." Schaefer didn't want to go into the specifics but he sure soundedconfident. One thing that Schaefer did several months ago was hire Bruce Binkow as Golden Boy's chief marketing officer. Binkow, for thoseunfamiliar with him, has quite a bit of experience in the field. Among his accomplishments, he was heavily involved in bringing the beach volleyball tour tonetwork television a few years ago. "We selected him because he is experienced.
They were able to attract major sponsors, McDonald's and Ford, for the volleyball tour, big-time mainstream companies," Schaefer said."That's what we need in boxing. That's why we hired him." Schaefer acknowledged that boxing on network television might have to begin as atime buy, but he said it would be possible with strong sponsors behind it. It is Binkow's task to line them up. "We are actively working with a coupleof networks to see how we can structure a deal on how we can bring boxing back on network television this year," Schaefer said. "Bruce has workedwith several networks and is evaluating where we can structure the best deal. I feel pretty comfortable with it. It's a lot of work, but it's a perfectenvironment." Schaefer knows how important network fights can be for the future of the sport.
He looks no further than his own boss, De La Hoya, who gained tremendous exposure on network television when he won the 1992 Olympic gold medal and fought someof his early pro bouts on network TV before going on to become the biggest star in the sport. "This is 2008, an Olympic year, and there's the factthat Oscar's career is coming to an end and Oscar's first fight was on network television," he said. "It would be a nice thing for Oscar togo full circle and be able to provide an opportunity for some of these young kids to be on network television."
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they should put boxing back on network TV but its going to have to be big names to start off with
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Zab by Knock out. No joke.
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Boxrec's records are pretty accurate, their schedule is pretty flimsy though. Take anything on their schedule with a grain of salt, although you usuallyget better information on when lower profile fighters are scheduled to fight next than the superstars. So many rumors float around with the big names, andboxrec runs with any rumor.
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anyone here about this?
Welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., who earlier Thursday threatened to fire his uncle, Roger Mayweather, as his trainer if he didn't stop working with Steve Forbes, won't have to go all Donald Trump on him.
The reason: Forbes fired him first after hearing about Mayweather Jr.'s comments, he told ESPN.com on Thursday night.
And get this: Forbes replaced him with Jeff Mayweather, the third of the three Mayweather boxing trainers along with Roger and their brother, Floyd Mayweather Sr., Junior's estranged father.
On a conference call with reporters Thursday afternoon, Mayweather Jr., who was promoting his March 30 WrestleMania 24 pay-per-view match against 7-foot, 441-pound wrestler The Big Show, said he would fire his uncle if he didn't drop Forbes. Forbes is scheduled to fight Oscar De La Hoya -- who is trained by Floyd Mayweather Sr. -- in a 150-pound fight on May 3.
[h3]It's more so [of a problem] with Floyd because he is Roger's boss. He pays him a nice salary. ... But I'm not upset with Roger. If I had been a pro only two or three years, maybe this would bother me. But I've been a pro for 12 years. This is just another little story to my story.
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--Steve Forbes
The reason Roger's working with Forbes was an issue for Mayweather Jr. was because he is scheduled to fight a rematch with De La Hoya on Sept. 20. If his uncle successfully guided Forbes to the victory, there would be no rematch of boxing's richest fight ever, which would cost Mayweather Jr. a $20 million-plus payday.
"Lately, I've been upset with my uncle, Roger Mayweather," Mayweather said on the teleconference. "My uncle Roger has been training Steve Forbes and if Steve Forbes beats Oscar, it's taking money out of my pocket. [If he continues], I'll have to move on and get another trainer."
Forbes opened training with Roger Mayweather to get ready for the fight with De La Hoya on March 2. He took Thursday's turn of events in stride.
"I heard about Floyd's comments from my promoter, Jeff Wald," said Forbes, a former junior lightweight titleholder and the runner-up on the second season of "The Contender" reality series.
"I was on my way to the gym when he told me. Normally, I am online all the time, so I would have seen Floyd's comments, but I wasn't today. So, when Jeff Wald told me about it, I thought it was funny. Trainers should be able to train anyone they want, but it didn't really surprise me. I just wondered why it didn't happen three or four weeks ago when my fight with Oscar was announced."
"I think its one of the tackiest things I have ever seen and I am a huge Floyd Mayweather fan," said "Contender" promoter Wald. "Floyd seemed like a gentleman at our press conference, but to do this to another fighter in the fight of his life is disappointing."
Forbes said he tried to reach Roger Mayweather to tell him about the decision, but couldn't reach him, nor did Roger show up at the gym on Thursday for their training session.
"Roger was supposed to meet me at the gym today, but when I found about [the comments], we talked [on the phone] and Roger said, ''Let me talk to Floyd about it and I'll meet you at the gym.' All this is going on while I'm in the car. I went to the gym and Roger didn't show up. We couldn't get a hold of him either. He said he would talk to Floyd and then he never showed up."
Forbes said that's when he decided to call Jeff Mayweather, who trained Sultan Ibragimov to a heavyweight title last year. Forbes said Jeff Mayweather would be with him in the gym on Friday.
Forbes has trained at one time or another with all three Mayweather brothers. He's also been friendly with Mayweather Jr., with whom he has sparred hundreds of rounds.
Forbes, 31, trained with Jeff Mayweather for two fights before he went into "The Contender" competition and worked out with him during the series, although he wasn't in his corner during the actual bouts.
Forbes (33-5, 9 KOs) said Roger Mayweather was his chief trainer for 10 fights and that Mayweather Sr. had trained him for nine fights.
"I feel comfortable with the Mayweathers. They taught me the game," Forbes said. "That's why I called Jeff and asked him to work with me. He said, 'No problem. I'll see you
tomorrow.' "
Roger Mayweather could not be reached for comment.
Forbes said he was not angry with Roger Mayweather, just disappointed.
"It's more [of a problem] with Floyd because he is Roger's boss," Forbes said. "He pays him a nice salary. I just wish Roger would have called me or come by the gym instead of just not showing up. But I'm not upset with Roger. If I had been a pro only two or three years, maybe this would bother me. But I've been a pro for 12 years. This is just another little story to my story. It doesn't affect me one bit, but it's just bizarre."
Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer
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Yeah, I read that yesterday.
I would have been comedy to have Roger in Steve's corner
I wonder if they'll have any kind of special for Forbes/ DLH
Yeah, I read that yesterday.
I would have been comedy to have Roger in Steve's corner
I wonder if they'll have any kind of special for Forbes/ DLH
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Rising welterweight contender Andre Berto, the 2006 ESPN.com Prospect of the Year, returns to HBO's "Boxing After Dark" June 21, although the other bout on the card is still in the works. Promoter Lou DiBella told ESPN.com that Berto (21-0, 18 KOs) probably will face Mexico's Miki Rodriguez (29-2, 23 KOs) in a title eliminator. DiBella said he's negotiating with Don King, Rodriguez's promoter. Rodriguez has won three consecutive fights since losing a May 2005 eliminator to Carlos Baldomir, who went on to win the undisputed title. The Berto-Rodriguez winner would become mandatory for Floyd Mayweather, although that bout is unlikely to ever happen. More likely, Berto-Rodriguez could be for an interim title or the winner could fight for a possible vacant title.
Against another Tomato?
Come on, DiBella.
I still can't get over the fact that he's ranked #1 by the WBC.
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Eh, it is his way to get to a belt.
If Floyd, I mean, when Floyd vacates the belt Andre might get his shot at Miguel and we all know what will happen after that
If Floyd, I mean, when Floyd vacates the belt Andre might get his shot at Miguel and we all know what will happen after that
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If Floyd, I mean, when Floyd vacates the belt Andre might get his shot at Miguel and we all know what will happen after that
I see U, too, have zero faith in Floyd stepping in the ring with Miguel Angel
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I see U, too, have zero faith in Floyd stepping in the ring with Miguel Angel
I've always maintain the positon that it WILL HAPPEN, but just not yet.
Not til 2009 or maybe even 2010
Floyd by then will have been stripped of the belt and given to Andre.
Floyd is on the fight once a year program and his dance card is already filled for 2008.
I think the fight will be more interesting when both move on in age, I don't know why.
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Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran and Marvin Hagler are all rolling over in their graves.
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God bless, your avy
Back to boxing, different time I suppose, those guys did it cause they had to.
Floyd is getting closer and closer to retirement.
He's done what he's can for boxing.
Can't really fault him
EDIT - for the Boxing / Wire heads
http://niketalk.com/topic/57051
God bless, your avy
Back to boxing, different time I suppose, those guys did it cause they had to.
Floyd is getting closer and closer to retirement.
He's done what he's can for boxing.
Can't really fault him
EDIT - for the Boxing / Wire heads
http://niketalk.com/topic/57051
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I have no problem with Berto taking an eliminator against a tomato can. It puts him one fight away from a title, and looking at the WBC's rankings.Margarito is next in line so Berto might face off with Margo for the vacan title eventually, or maybe Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. who isn't much farther downthe list. A good fight might end up coming out of this eliminator.
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Rui (Nutley, NJ): I thought there was a rematch clause in the contract for Pacquiao/Marquez II? Was this for Pacquiao only?
Dan Rafael: Yes, it was only in the event Pacquiao lost.
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My prediction is Berto is going to lose as soon he faces a legit opponent, particularly someone who can punch. Sorry, but that knockdown against Rivera hasleft me doubtful. It's not so much that he got knocked down and potentially exposed what could be a questionable chin and poor defense, it's the wayhim and his corner handled it. I can sense weakness. He panicked when he got knocked down by trying to get up too quickly and ended up falling down again, hewasn't cool under pressure. He then stumbled back to his corner and he suddenly had "glove problems" (perhaps his corner buying time since theyknow he has a glass jaw). His last two opponents haven't been punchers either, especially Trabant. Of course it's not that unusual to protect an upand coming prospect from punchers but it may be even more so in this case based on what I've said previously.
I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong.
I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong.
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Also, there were questions about Berto's chin way back in the amateurs. Again, i'm not gonna be convinced one way or another until we see him in therewith a banger, but there are questions out there.
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WAIT. Brain Vera the one from contender is going to fight Andy lee tonight?
i see im have a new avy.
